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Reply #2900 –
iPad has a new hash. It wont be compatible with 3rd party tools. I am looking into it, but  dont have an ipad atm.

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Reply #2901 –
The new hash is 57 bytes long, at location 0xAB in iTunesCDB. We will call it hashAB. Previous hashes were based on fwid, but this is based on something else.. cant investigate more without an iPad.

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Reply #2902 –
Quote from: israr on
The new hash is 57 bytes long, at location 0xAB in iTunesCDB. We will call it hashAB. Previous hashes were based on fwid, but this is based on something else.. cant investigate more without an iPad.


Write here, if you can get algorithm hash generation for iPad or future iphone 4.0 OS- this theme is very interesting for me!

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Reply #2903 –
If I upgrade my iPhone 3GS to OS4, can I help with anything?
Can't wait for a HD-AAC encoder :P

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Reply #2904 –
Quote from: odyssey on
If I upgrade my iPhone 3GS to OS4, can I help with anything?


I am not sure if OS 4.0 will be using this new hash. You can update to check..  If OS 4.0 is using new hash then its good, because i dont have an iPad

However I dont have iPhone Developer Account to test OS4 either.. and I do not want to loose unlock on iPhone.

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Reply #2905 –
Pertaining to foo_dop are we sure that OS4 will break foo_dop, or are we just going to have to try it out and see?

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Reply #2906 –
Quote from: metalboy on
Pertaining to foo_dop are we sure that OS4 will break foo_dop, or are we just going to have to try it out and see?


I think I am sure that OS4 will break it. If current beta does not do it, final version will definitely do it.

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Reply #2907 –
I have a question that I've been researching today and yesterday, but can't figure out. How are ratings stored my foo_dop, or perhaps foobar? Is the Playback Statistics required to sync ratings back and forth, or only to write these ratings to the tags if I wanted? It seems tags written with Playback Statistics (which hasnt been updated in a year now) are not compatible with other program, rendering it somewhat useless to do so.

Because of this whole problem of ratings, I decided a while ago to adopt my own standard, which is just populating the comment field with a up to five '*'s, which can be seen with pretty much any application anywhere. Works very good, but now I also would like to retrieve ratings made on the iPod, so I'm looking to how foo_dop does this. Because I don't know how and where the ratings are stored locally. Ideally I would make a mapping of my own 'standard' to whatever foo_dop and the iPod use, but I don't see any rating field in the configuration pane in foobar.

So, either I would like to know how ratings synced back to foobar are stored, to see if I can convert them to preferably my own 'standard', or ask you if it's possible you include some functionality to allow me to map the ratings to my own tag.

Thanks!

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Reply #2908 –
Hi, firstly, hats of to MusicMusic for the hard work and fantastic components you produce.

I have a quick couple of questions regarding foo_dop.  I apologise if these have been covered elsewhere but I spent a good while reading through the 117 pages of this thread and couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.

1) Is it possible to customise the appearance of the "ipod devices" panel?  Can the default white background be changed to something else for example?  And font colour?

2) I am able to send artwork to ipods/iphones with no problems.  However, when viewing my ipod's library in foobar, the album art is not displayed.  Is this a limitation of foobar, foo_dop or simply a configuration error on my part?

Thanks again

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Reply #2909 –
has anyone tested iPhone OS4?
 

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Reply #2910 –
Hello, musicmusic. Thanks for keeping the project support. Plugin is becoming better and better!
One note: it appears that podcast support works perfectly only for audiopodcasts. if you mark a videofile as one only audio-steam will be played. if changed to music video or tv show the same file plays without troubles but isn't displayed in podcast menu. can anything be done about this?

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Reply #2911 –
so, just a quick question:

what do i have to do, if i want to copy an ipod? i have a 160GB ipod and a friend of mine has also buyed one. she has still no music on it and she said that she want my whole music, so, what to do? copy&past of the whole folder?

just synchronizing the library with the new iPod wouldnt work, because i have everything in FLAC on my HDD and it took days to fill up my iPod, caused by the conversion.

seeya and thanks once again to musicmusic for this great plugin, otherwise i hadnt buyed an ipod

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Reply #2912 –
Quote from: Brent on
How are ratings stored my foo_dop, or perhaps foobar? Is the Playback Statistics required to sync ratings back and forth, or only to write these ratings to the tags if I wanted?
Playback statistics is required to sync ratings. I works fine regardless of how old it is. Ratings are stored in a database file or into the tags. You should check out foo_dop wiki under "further usage notes" for explanation.

Quote from: Brent on
Because I don't know how and where the ratings are stored locally
Ratings are stored in tag %rating% or rather can be called from that.

Quote from: Brent on
or ask you if it's possible you include some functionality to allow me to map the ratings to my own tag.
Not necessary, ratings work just fine as is.

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Reply #2913 –
Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
1) Is it possible to customise the appearance of the "ipod devices" panel?  Can the default white background be changed to something else for example?  And font colour?
No not that I have seen someone can correct me if I am wrong.

Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
2) However, when viewing my ipod's library in foobar, the album art is not displayed.
Is your album art stored in the tags or just on your hd? I think iPod stores artwork in the database so when you load the library it doesn't know where to look for that art. If stored in the tags it shows up just fine. Again I am not sure of that someone can correct me if I am wrong.

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Reply #2914 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
what do i have to do, if i want to copy an ipod?
Try this: plug in iPod > load library command > right click files / File Operations / Copy To / ... > setup a scheme to copy to a folder you specify > add that folder to foobar library > sync new iPod to a playlist containing those files > delete or remove that path or files from library even simply leave it. That would be my first guess at how to accomplish it.

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Reply #2915 –
are you shure this will copy also all the artwork, because i never see any artwork in foobar (in both of my albumart viewers)?

seeya

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Reply #2916 –
Quote from: metalboy on
Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
1) Is it possible to customise the appearance of the "ipod devices" panel?  Can the default white background be changed to something else for example?  And font colour?
No not that I have seen someone can correct me if I am wrong.

Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
2) However, when viewing my ipod's library in foobar, the album art is not displayed.
Is your album art stored in the tags or just on your hd? I think iPod stores artwork in the database so when you load the library it doesn't know where to look for that art. If stored in the tags it shows up just fine. Again I am not sure of that someone can correct me if I am wrong.


Thanks for the reply metalboy

Well, in my music collection (majority FLAC), I have a folder.jpg cover art in every folder so as you suspected, a seperate image not included in the tags.  I use foo_dops "Add Artwork" function with the args "$directory_path(%path%)\folder" which seems to result in all the artwork being perfectly viewable on the ipod device.
Where the problem lies is that with my current setup, foobar fails to view the artwork stored on the ipod after this procedure.  I suspect that the built in foobar2000 artwork reader doesn't provide the means to retrieve this artwork and that I may need to add a command to Colums UI's "artwork" page to tell it where on the ipod to find the artwork.
I suspect however, that foo_dop puts its converted artwork into tags on the files that have been transferred to the ipod device.  What I guess I need is an idea of what syntax could be used to retrieve the artwork from file tags?

Seems a shame that the visible "ipod devices" panel has no customisable colour/font elements.  If it could be edited in the color/font section of columns ui it would be fantastic.  A possible feature request musimusic?

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Reply #2917 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
are you shure this will copy also all the artwork, because i never see any artwork in foobar (in both of my albumart viewers)?
No, I think you won't get artwork. Only way you can get artwork, I would think, would be if your files had artwork embedded or once you get it copied to hard drive from iPod then you could put artwork in respected folders before resending to other iPod.

@WhiskeyAlpha:
I think you are getting beyond what I know. If your files are FLAC and you are converting 'on the fly' then I suspect you wont ever get the artwork embedded. Just a guess but I doubt there is programming to support calling the iPod database to view the artwork, I don't know that, just guessing. I thought iPod stored artwork in some folder, while on the iPod the database knows how to map that files with the current file being played.

While converting to put on the iPod is nice, I prefer to convert a copy to mp3 and use that to sync. Matter of fact, that is my main library, the mp3's that is. My FLAC files are stored separately and I rarely listen to them they are mainly archived, if you will.

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Reply #2918 –
and what would happend if i just copy & paste the whole ipod with windows?

seeya

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Reply #2919 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
and what would happend if i just copy & paste the whole ipod with windows?
I really don't know, I assume that if they are the same model it would work. If all hidden files got copied????

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Reply #2920 –
Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
2) I am able to send artwork to ipods/iphones with no problems.  However, when viewing my ipod's library in foobar, the album art is not displayed.  Is this a limitation of foobar, foo_dop or simply a configuration error on my part?


If your artwork on your computer is in external files, foo_dop takes the external file and adds it to the itunesDB with other information. Your files on the ipod are never modified with artwork. Foobar can only read artwork from tags or from external files; artwork in the iTunesDB is not available for display. There are two ways you could view your iPod library's artwork. One would be a modification in foobar's artwork plugin so that it could read iTunesDB files, but since iPods aren't supported officially, this will likely not happen. The other would be if foo_dop was modified to embed artwork in every media file it transferred, in addition to adding it to the iTunesDB. The latter is possible, but it would be purely cosmetic, and would increase the size of every media file you transferred. It wouldn't be much at first, but it could rapidly add up, especially if your artwork was high res.

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Reply #2921 –
Quote from: israr on
iPad has a new hash. It wont be compatible with 3rd party tools. I am looking into it, but  dont have an ipad atm.
Thanks for the info, I was hoping they'd given up 

Quote from: odyssey on
If I upgrade my iPhone 3GS to OS4, can I help with anything?
You could provide some sample data, yes, but bear in mind foo_dop won't work with it.

Quote from: metalboy on
Pertaining to foo_dop are we sure that OS4 will break foo_dop, or are we just going to have to try it out and see?
Looks certain to break it.

Quote from: israr on
has anyone tested iPhone OS4?
I assume you have a jailbroken device, have you tried just bumping DBVersion in Checkpoint.xml on current firmware? It might make iTunes write the new signature (even if the device doesn't understand it).
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Reply #2922 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
I assume you have a jailbroken device, have you tried just bumping DBVersion in Checkpoint.xml on current firmware? It might make iTunes write the new signature (even if the device doesn't understand it).

Yes, I have tried that. Bumping the DBVersion makes iPhone unrecognizable to iTunes, since iTunes validates the new hash, and existing DB has older hash.

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Reply #2923 –
Quote from: aletaziar on
Quote from: WhiskeyAlpha on
2) I am able to send artwork to ipods/iphones with no problems.  However, when viewing my ipod's library in foobar, the album art is not displayed.  Is this a limitation of foobar, foo_dop or simply a configuration error on my part?


If your artwork on your computer is in external files, foo_dop takes the external file and adds it to the itunesDB with other information. Your files on the ipod are never modified with artwork. Foobar can only read artwork from tags or from external files; artwork in the iTunesDB is not available for display. There are two ways you could view your iPod library's artwork. One would be a modification in foobar's artwork plugin so that it could read iTunesDB files, but since iPods aren't supported officially, this will likely not happen. The other would be if foo_dop was modified to embed artwork in every media file it transferred, in addition to adding it to the iTunesDB. The latter is possible, but it would be purely cosmetic, and would increase the size of every media file you transferred. It wouldn't be much at first, but it could rapidly add up, especially if your artwork was high res.


Thanks for the explanation aletaziar, that makes things a lot clearer now.

I guess unless musicmusic suddenly feels the need to add this in as a feature in some way or another I'll just have to get used to being "artwork-less" in ipod mode.

BTW, does anybody happen to know for certain whether or not it is possible to alter the background and or font color of the "ipod devices" panel?

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Reply #2924 –
about the perils of embedded cover art... i have all the cover art embedded in the files, but i know that iPod uses a single database for all the cover images. what i was wondering is, when foo_dop transfers the music files does it remove the embedded cover art, or it stays in the files?

because, if it does, i will have to remove all my cover art from the files and put it as cover.jpg, because i would have no need to send files to the iPod if they contain the unnecessary bloat (i can save quite a lot if the music transferred is without cover art in every file)

maybe a cool option in the foo_dop would be to remove all embedded cover art when sending song to the iPod?

thanks