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Reply #2550 –
Quote from: Alexander Ostuni on
C). Volume in Europe is definately not high enough. For example when I listened to Audiobooks in the Railway or near a Street I did not understand a word. Same with Albums from the 70ies....
I had to buy an iPod from Australia.


You didn't have to. MP3Gain/AACGain would have done the trick. In fact I have trouble believing that someone would use an iPod without some kind of volume modification to the files! Tracks from the early nineties and older (not reissues) are just to quiet compared with everything from this decade.
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Reply #2551 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
b) i have some high-res covers and some even in pngs. on such a small display i think i dont need them that big, will foo_dop crop them down so ill save space on my ipod? and will the covers saved in folders or in tags? (i dont like the tag thing because it wastes too much space and doesnt really have a fb2k support)


It does not waste too much space. It depends on the image you are embedding. A 300x300 pix image will do nicely in any iPod (even Touch) and it ands 50k average to each track. That I think is nothing to worry about.
I'm the one in the picture, sitting on a giant cabbage in Mexico, circa 1978.
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Reply #2552 –
Quote from: AtaqueEG on
You didn't have to. MP3Gain/AACGain would have done the trick. In fact I have trouble believing that someone would use an iPod without some kind of volume modification to the files! Tracks from the early nineties and older (not reissues) are just to quiet compared with everything from this decade.




Completely different pair of shoes, sorry......

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Reply #2553 –
Really? Just how is that? Your "music from the 70s" (released in the late eighties/early nineties in CD, at the very least) inmune to MP3Gain? Volume limiter in Europe overriding adjustments made by that program? Do you even understand what I meant?

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Reply #2554 –
(Guys, this flame is not even remotely related to the plugin.)

musicmusic, I know you are busy, but is it realistic to expect the auto sync? It is mentioned at your site as an acknowledged request, but I guess it is too time consuming to develop?

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Reply #2555 –
You should be able to do AutoSync yourself with some other foobar2000 plugins. One of them allows you to script any action using command-line commands, and if you use the windows scheduler or autoplay options, you'll be able to autosync.

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Reply #2556 –
Quote from: Alexander Ostuni on
C). Volume in Europe is definately not high enough. For example when I listened to Audiobooks in the Railway or near a Street I did not understand a word. Same with Albums from the 70ies....
I had to buy an iPod from Australia.


oh, ok, thanks. already thought something like this. when theres already trouble with music from the 70ies and with audiobooks, i doubt that classical would sound great over an ipod.

i have some kind of in ear monitors that mutes the world really well (some sennheiser for 30-40 euros), but i wanna hear the music. i tried to listen to it at the local store, but they hadnt any music on it (why does they connect it etc., when theres no music on them?)
im really unsure if i should buy one, my old creative zen touch broke (bike accident). sounded great and you could really hear classical over it becaus this machine was damn loud.

any other advices which mp3 player are good? i wanna have some music with me (so lets say about 120GB) and it should sound great. nd not too expensive. but i havent found anything that fits on it, except the ipod (but theres the problem with the sound)

seeya

edit: @AtaqueEG: i know replay gain from fb2k...at some point it adds distortion, and i dunno how far this block goes, but when he has problems with music from the 70ies, ill have massive problems with classical. those records are so quiet, when you normaly listen at 18/25 (and 25 is terrible loud), you have to put the volume up to 25. and soemtimes even that is too quiet.

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Reply #2557 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
b) i have some high-res covers and some even in pngs. on such a small display i think i dont need them that big, will foo_dop crop them down so ill save space on my ipod? and will the covers saved in folders or in tags?
I think this still applies.

HTH.

Alessandro

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Reply #2559 –
Thanks for the new updates!

In the new foobar 1.0 beta, the foo_dop options appear under "Legacy Commands (unsorted)" in the context menu. I'm not sure what the best place is for these options in the new streamlined menu?

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Reply #2560 –
Quote from: santosh.s on
I've put up version 0.6.6.1. It may or may not help with your problem (depending on what the cause was..).

Quote from: Takaji on
I would prefer to keep this option enabled as I like to see my playcount on my files when I'm using foobar on the computer. I don't want to write the playback statistics to a database, just in case that file is ever lost.
You can always make backups - I'm sure you could use some other components to export the info to some kind of text file as well.

Quote from: Takaji on
Assuming there is nothing I can do to fix my situation, perhaps a future version of iPod manager will have a feature that skips a file if only the playback statistics have changed?
No, never - it's intended that it keeps up-to-date copies on the device. There's always the possibility of the audio data changing (and that could include replacing one rip of a song/album in your library with another), and regardless it's needed for several other reasons.

Quote from: odyssey on
musicmusic: What do you think of implementing ability to apply mp3gain data while syncing? I think this would be a good idea, since the iPod EQ sucks really bad and i.e. using bassboosting EQ it will clip on almost anything.
Will it make any difference vs. using SoundCheck? Also, why not apply it to the files in your library? Regardless, I don't want to add any functions that alter files beyond transcoding.

Quote from: skyfish on
musicmusic, I know you are busy, but is it realistic to expect the auto sync? It is mentioned at your site as an acknowledged request, but I guess it is too time consuming to develop?
As far as automatic background sync'ing (if that's what you want) goes, then yes it is mainly that other things have higher priority. Also, since some tasks have forced progress dialogs having these popup would be a bit of a nuisance (main sync progress would be embedded in the UI someplace).

Quote from: PlazzTT on
Thanks for the new updates!
Welcome

Quote from: PlazzTT on
In the new foobar 1.0 beta, the foo_dop options appear under "Legacy Commands (unsorted)" in the context menu.
I'm aware, it will need changes component-side as you are probably know. So a bit of patience for now
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Reply #2561 –
Quote from: mundschuss on
Quote from: Alexander Ostuni on
C). Volume in Europe is definately not high enough. For example when I listened to Audiobooks in the Railway or near a Street I did not understand a word. Same with Albums from the 70ies....
I had to buy an iPod from Australia.


oh, ok, thanks. already thought something like this. when theres already trouble with music from the 70ies and with audiobooks, i doubt that classical would sound great over an ipod.

i have some kind of in ear monitors that mutes the world really well (some sennheiser for 30-40 euros), but i wanna hear the music.


I am using Shure IEM with my European iPod classic and iPhone mostly for classical music and mostly on trains and planes. I rarely use the full volume and can hear even quiet parts quite well.

If a European iPod is not loud enough the headphones/IEM are not suitable for the surroundings -- in a noisy environment they should be insulating -- or you already have ear damage.

P.S.: Could not resist replying even if this does not strictly belong to the thread's topic.

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Reply #2562 –
ah, ok, thanks. actually i have really good ears, so i trust in you and ill get an ipod for christmas

seeya

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Reply #2563 –
hi, I'm having some troubles with playlist removing. I go Menu --> File --> iPod --> Manage Contents and a window with list of playlists on my ipod appears. I chose one, rightclick and chose "Remove". The playlist disappears, but after I reopen the Manage contents window, it is there again. I tried to rewrite database in the meantime, but it did not help.

Where could be the problem?
 

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Reply #2564 –
I'm having problem getting my ipod shuffle to scrobble. Foo_dop doesn't seem to send the data to audioscrobbler, as when I connect my ipod and rewrite database nothing happens.
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iPod manager: detected ShadowDB: true
iPod manager: Apple iPod/iPhone connected. Device Instance Path: USB\VID_05AC&PID_1301\000A27001C68A9AE
and nothing after that..

using ipod shuffle 2g with 0.9.6.9, audioscrobbler 1.4.3, foo_dop 0.6.6.1

Edit: If I go to "Manage Contents" after listening to a song it shows the plays as 0. I just moved from managing my ipod with itunes, is there anything I might need to do to set it up for use with foobar?

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Reply #2565 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
I've put up version 0.6.6.1. It may or may not help with your problem (depending on what the cause was..).

Opps! How could I miss this post, thanks for the fix.
However, I did notice the newer version earlier and tried it out recently, and the problem did not show up. Note that all files were tagged properly this time, so I can't be sure what exactly solved it. Thats cool, in any case 

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Will it make any difference vs. using SoundCheck? Also, why not apply it to the files in your library? Regardless, I don't want to add any functions that alter files beyond transcoding.

I used RG to soundcheck conversion option in foo_dop. It worked fine on the iPod but still isn't enough for me. Reason is that I use classic primarily in car, where it is connected to head unit through USB (of course, digitally). Unfortunately, soundcheck adjustment or even normal volume control on iPod gets deactivated in this mode. No problem with volume control, but deactivation of soundcheck is pretty much annoying. Searched over the net and found a working solution (though after spending a lot of time and efforts, as I am new to everything involved including iPod and foobar player itself!)- tried to use wavegain to (calulate and..) apply RG adjustment before streaming it to the encoder. However there seemed to be some problem with piping to/from wavegain, next tried to use temp file "%s" (found in foobar's converter options) which didn't work too. Finally had to write a batchfile which stores stdin into a temporary file and then applies wavegain and encoder processing. It works, but is terribly slow due to wavegain taking a big chunk of time as compared to encoder, and secondly using multiple files at a time is not working, forcing me to select just one file at a time.

Have quite a few comments/questions:

1. I personally second those who wish to see "apply replaygain", equalizer and any other DSP processing options in the main player to be usable while sync'ing.
2. Does foo_dop support "%s" option for encoder (temporary file instead of stdin, I suppose)? (Why does it have independent "converter" setting in the first place, why not use from the main player's existing conversion options? May be user would create one, or a few, custom settings specifically for iPod.)
3. When I select "ReplyGain scan converted files" option, does it literally "scan" new file again even if source file was already scanned? I believe it is pretty much waste of processing/time. Ideal way would be to just copy RG tag from source file into converted file and accordingly update soundcheck as well. Just wanted  to know what this plugin really does.
4. This is not strictly a question on foo_dop, rather foobar2k player. I understand that it allows a lot of processing options while format conversion, but is there any way to apply this processing in place (I mean modify the file itself instead of converting into another)? Sorry for my ignorance, I am a newbie to foobar as mentioned earlier!
5. Any pointer towards possible reason behind simultaneous multiple files encoding not working? I am using wavegain (1.2.8) and ffmpeg tools, and have ensured that multiple instances of my batch file itself do not clash.

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Reply #2566 –
Quote from: santosh.s on
3. When I select "ReplyGain scan converted files" option, does it literally "scan" new file again even if source file was already scanned? I believe it is pretty much waste of processing/time. Ideal way would be to just copy RG tag from source file into converted file and accordingly update soundcheck as well. Just wanted  to know what this plugin really does.

The encoded file may (and very likely does) have different peak and RMS values, assuming you are converting to a lossy format.

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Reply #2567 –
Right, that statement should be valid only for lossless formats. I am using ALAC. (Not that it is a must, but as long as iPod doesn't run out of disk space (160GB) I want to stick to that.)

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Reply #2568 –
Quote from: zzeitg on
hi, I'm having some troubles with playlist removing. I go Menu --> File --> iPod --> Manage Contents and a window with list of playlists on my ipod appears. I chose one, rightclick and chose "Remove". The playlist disappears, but after I reopen the Manage contents window, it is there again. I tried to rewrite database in the meantime, but it did not help.

Where could be the problem?
Can't see any reason for that in normal circumstances. Did you click "Save and close"? Did you close iTunes etc. first?

Quote from: x13looDx on
I'm having problem getting my ipod shuffle to scrobble. Foo_dop doesn't seem to send the data to audioscrobbler, as when I connect my ipod and rewrite database nothing happens.
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using ipod shuffle 2g with 0.9.6.9, audioscrobbler 1.4.3, foo_dop 0.6.6.1
Sorry, plays aren't currently read from Shuffles. Regardless, the device doesn't record play timestamps (I know the official client just scrobbles them all with the same timestamp, but I'd guess it is another [a href='index.php?act=findpost&pid=666485']no-go for third party clients[/a].)

Quote from: santosh.s on
I used RG to soundcheck conversion option in foo_dop. It worked fine on the iPod but still isn't enough for me. Reason is that I use classic primarily in car, where it is connected to head unit through USB (of course, digitally). Unfortunately, soundcheck adjustment or even normal volume control on iPod gets deactivated in this mode.
Sounds like it is not using the device for decoding - I understand SoundCheck to work on any normal dock. Does the radio have the "Made for iPod" logo? Does it play DRMd tracks?

Quote from: santosh.s on
2. Does foo_dop support "%s" option for encoder (temporary file instead of stdin, I suppose)?
No, you have to use stdin.
Quote from: santosh.s on
(Why does it have independent "converter" setting in the first place, why not use from the main player's existing conversion options? May be user would create one, or a few, custom settings specifically for iPod.)
There's no way for it to, for a start.
Quote from: santosh.s on
5. Any pointer towards possible reason behind simultaneous multiple files encoding not working? I am using wavegain (1.2.8) and ffmpeg tools, and have ensured that multiple instances of my batch file itself do not clash.
Maybe try monitoring using Process Monitor.

Quote from: santosh.s on
Right, that statement should be valid only for lossless formats. I am using ALAC. (Not that it is a must, but as long as iPod doesn't run out of disk space (160GB) I want to stick to that.)
Regardless, it is safer than blindly copying it across (especially when you are doing things with wavegain...)
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Reply #2569 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Sounds like it is not using the device for decoding - I understand SoundCheck to work on any normal dock. Does the radio have the "Made for iPod" logo? Does it play DRMd tracks?

No, I think iPod is used for decoding because- it plays formats like ALAC, WAV, AIFF which are otherwise not supported by the radio, like stored in say USB stick or HDD, CD etc. Also, when I connect/disconnect iPod from radio, playing goes on seamlessly with only difference being where the sound is fed. It is the radio when connected (headphone gets muted) and headphone when disconnected. It is a Clarion make and does carry "Made for iPod" logo. It does not play copy-righted music from iTunes. It supports WMDRM though, but only when using USB-MTP mode.
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Regardless, it is safer than blindly copying it across (especially when you are doing things with wavegain...)

Got it.

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Reply #2570 –
Quote from: santosh.s on
No, I think iPod is used for decoding because- it plays formats like ALAC, WAV, AIFF which are otherwise not supported by the radio, like stored in say USB stick or HDD, CD etc. Also, when I connect/disconnect iPod from radio, playing goes on seamlessly with only difference being where the sound is fed. It is the radio when connected (headphone gets muted) and headphone when disconnected. It is a Clarion make and does carry "Made for iPod" logo.
Strange. For example, I can dock my iPod on my (Sony) Hi-Fi and SoundCheck works (for example toggling it on and off during playback makes a noticeable difference [unless the SoundCheck adjustment is a small amount]).

So if it definitely doesn't work it would probably be worthwhile sending an e-mail to Clarion for an explanation, especially if it has the Made for iPod logo.
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Reply #2571 –
Looks like car radio and the dock are implemented differently (never used a dock myself). In the radio, it seems like iPod performs decoding job and feeds the "audio" data digitally through USB cable, which is in turn processed and fed to radio's DAC for playback. The dock may be sending analog audio instead, which includes all post processing options set in iPod. BTW, when I connect iPod, it's user interface is completely disabled, it can't be directly operated until radio is turned off or cable is removed. This is similar to how it gets locked when a PC mounts it as USB device. Does your Sony Hi-Fi dock behave similarly?

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Reply #2572 –
Yes you are probably right, the dock connector has line out pins by the looks of it:
http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Apple_iPod_-_iPhone_dock

No, it doesn't disable the interface on the device, rather it works with it and you can navigate the menu with the remote (as far as the iPod classic goes).

Regardless, it looks like an oversight on either Apple or Clarion's part..
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Reply #2573 –
Just to mention, that my Alpine car-fi disables the iPod-interface as well. The EQ works, so I believe that soundcheck works as well.

Another funny thing is that I can't adjust the volume of my GPS navigator (Navigon) in this mode, but it's irrelevant for this discussion.

There was a discussion on this exact subject (is the carstereo or the iPod decoding) some months ago - I don't remember which thread though, but try to search for it.
Can't wait for a HD-AAC encoder :P

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Reply #2574 –
Found what seems to be a bug when using metadata mappings: I have `$if2($meta(CATEGORY,0),%album artist%)` as the artist mapping. In this case that ends up mapping to `Anime`. Now here's the problem, in past versions it worked fine, but in newer versions (I assumed since you added support for sort fields.) I get duplicate entries in the artist list in the ipod, where the sort-order artists would be. They all point to the same set of albums, but the entry appears multiple time in the menu in several places. There isn't a way to remap the artist sort field as far as I can see, so, no way to get rid of these duplicates for now. Maybe you should ignore the sort field when a mapping is used for that field?