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Reply #450 –
I figured out the problem, in my case (2g Nano).  If you right click a playlist and ->Send To iPod, it sends the songs but not the playlist itself.

If you go to File->iPod->Send Playlists To iPod, then you get the expected behavior of both the songs and the playlist being sent.

Both should do the latter, in my opinion.

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Reply #451 –
this is quite hard to explain as i dont really know what causes it:

I had videos on my ipod which i sent using foo_dop all working fine. Was round a mates house (where i believe causes the problem) was stealing stuff off his pc (sending to the HD (disk use) not iPod interface).

Since then the videos are just audio only! is this because he has iTunes installed? (dont even know if he does just tring to work out why the videos are audio only, they dont even have the [_] symbol next to them anymore. Any ideas?

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Reply #452 –
Can someone explain how to make the iPod work with the directory structure intact? I renamed the files to fit the 57-char limit with a script, then used the "send to iPod" menu item to send it. This doesn't work however - it shows up in the iPod menus, but nothing will play.

Is there at least a way to go back to the way it was, instead of having to delete and copy 70GB of stuff all over again?

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Reply #453 –
hey,
im using rockbox and apple firmware parallel on my ipod. the prob i have is that tracks i load on my ipod without converting em ipod database conform, but just copy my files somewhere on the pod. i can use those tracks with rockbox, but ipodfirmware doesnt recognize em. now i tried rescanning and rebuilding the ipod database, so they get included, but it doesnt work :/ i do remember, foo_pod tried to fix that problem, it just didnt work with 5g so far. I was wondering if there is any solution for that issue, my device is a 5g video 60gb.

thy in advance,

pz

glam

edit: sorry, i was too quick, just read ur faq and figured out how to put them in my own structure, but 2 problems still remain. 1st the tracks dont play on apple firmware and a minor problem, that u are aware of is the digit limitation. i was going to store my files on my ipod like /music/New/Artist-Album-Year plus the length of the track it is nearly impossible to make a good structure for 60 gb music with only 54 digits, is there nothing u can do about that, would be really great! but first of all, the tracks should also play

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Reply #454 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
foo_dop is an experimental iPod plugin for foobar2000 0.9.3+, currently in alpha version.
Download page

Notes and changelog moved here. Read them first!


Why closed source?!?

Also, I'm almost certain you're aware but afaik the definitive resource for the iTunesDB format is http://www.ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB

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Reply #455 –
foo_dop 0.4.0 experimental released. Its experimental because it uses a iTunes 7.1-like database format (but not dataset type 4), including writing the new video sort indices, and these could do with some more testing. Please see the changelog for a complete list of changes.

Quote from: HeavensBlade23 on
I figured out the problem, in my case (2g Nano).  If you right click a playlist and ->Send To iPod, it sends the songs but not the playlist itself.

If you go to File->iPod->Send Playlists To iPod, then you get the expected behavior of both the songs and the playlist being sent.

Both should do the latter, in my opinion.
The actions when you right click a playlist act on the items, not the playlist. I agree, its confusing, but this needs to be changed in the UI so those actions are in a "Items" sub-menu.

Quote from: 2Pacalypse on
this is quite hard to explain as i dont really know what causes it:

I had videos on my ipod which i sent using foo_dop all working fine. Was round a mates house (where i believe causes the problem) was stealing stuff off his pc (sending to the HD (disk use) not iPod interface).

Since then the videos are just audio only! is this because he has iTunes installed? (dont even know if he does just tring to work out why the videos are audio only, they dont even have the [_] symbol next to them anymore. Any ideas?

I don't know, but iTunes/iPodService likes rewriting databases without you doing anything. Maybe the database got downgraded to a version not supporting video.

Quote from: Killmaster on
Can someone explain how to make the iPod work with the directory structure intact? I renamed the files to fit the 57-char limit with a script, then used the "send to iPod" menu item to send it. This doesn't work however - it shows up in the iPod menus, but nothing will play.

Is there at least a way to go back to the way it was, instead of having to delete and copy 70GB of stuff all over again?
I did some testing, and it seems like the 5.5G iPod will only play the files if they are within the iPod_Control\Music folder. I don't remember how painful it is moving lots of files on FAT32..

Quote from: SuperFarStucker on
Quote from: musicmusic on

foo_dop is an experimental iPod plugin for foobar2000 0.9.3+, currently in alpha version.
Download page

Notes and changelog moved here. Read them first!


Why closed source?!?

Is there something you want to know from the source?

Quote from: SuperFarStucker on
Also, I'm almost certain you're aware but afaik the definitive resource for the iTunesDB format is http://www.ipodlinux.org/ITunesDB
Yes, I refer to that site sometimes
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Reply #456 –
Thank you, musicmusic, for this fantastic tool! I'm just wondering if you can add a function that automatically transfer the *.lrc file to plain *.txt without time stamped display when a music file, embedded with lrc lyrics, is sent to ipod, while it keeps unchanged in my local music library.

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Reply #457 –
good work so far musicmusic
i know you dont officially support shuffles, however theres an interesting bug with my 1st gen shuffle.

firstly, the plugin detects, and adds music flawlessly. When i remove my ipod the play music from it, it works as well.
however, when i turn off my ipod, after use, then turn it on again, the ipod refuses to play. Reconnecting the ipod to foobar doesnt fix it either. Any attempts to view the database through foobar result in a "missing itunes db object". In order to fix the problem, i have to restore the files with ones take when it was working.

Was just curious to get your thoughts on what may be causing this.
Keep up the good work
 

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Reply #458 –
Quote from: alphameric on
good work so far musicmusic
i know you dont officially support shuffles, however theres an interesting bug with my 1st gen shuffle.

firstly, the plugin detects, and adds music flawlessly. When i remove my ipod the play music from it, it works as well.
however, when i turn off my ipod, after use, then turn it on again, the ipod refuses to play. Reconnecting the ipod to foobar doesnt fix it either. Any attempts to view the database through foobar result in a "missing itunes db object". In order to fix the problem, i have to restore the files with ones take when it was working.

Was just curious to get your thoughts on what may be causing this.
Keep up the good work

Hmm, indeed strange  Sounds like something is vaporising the iTunesDB, which would be a strange thing to do 

Which version of foo_dop are you using?
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Reply #459 –
Thanks for the update! I'm still hoping for albumart and lyric support, though.
I also have an idea. Would it be possible to make an ipod panel which would serve as a drop-point for files? It could be a simple little panel which would just appear as a progress bar showing the space remaining on the ipod. Files could be dragged and dropped from playlists (except SCPL since this isnt supported) as well as directly from explorer windows.

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Reply #461 –
Quote from: alphameric on
Quote from: musicmusic on

Hmm, indeed strange  Sounds like something is vaporising the iTunesDB, which would be a strange thing to do 

Which version of foo_dop are you using?


4.0 atm

Ok, if you have iTunes installed, if you could do the following I could maybe work out the problem. Restore the Shuffle and add a few files using latest iTunes. Backup the iPod_Control\iTunes folder on your iPod. Then using foobar (foo_dop 0.4.0), enable the "Ignore leading 'The'.." option and do a "Rewrite iPod database". Then make another backup of the iPod_Control\iTunes folder.

Then if you could send me the two archives I could try and work out what foo_dop/iTunes are doing so differently with the Shuffle.
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Reply #462 –
Quote from: alphaex32 on
Thanks for the update! I'm still hoping for albumart and lyric support, though.

Lyrics support is there, but your files must be tagged with the lyrics in the way the iPod wants them. See wiki.

Albumart - I wrote the database photodb/artworkdb reader/writer and some other stuff, but i stopped when i realised the way the ipod stored the images was going to give me a headache.. (it concatenates multiple images into single files..) Probably I'll come back to it at some point.
Quote from: alphaex32 on
I also have an idea. Would it be possible to make an ipod panel which would serve as a drop-point for files? It could be a simple little panel which would just appear as a progress bar showing the space remaining on the ipod. Files could be dragged and dropped from playlists (except SCPL since this isnt supported) as well as directly from explorer windows.
It sounds like something potentially useful. But I dont think ts something Id add for now.
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Reply #463 –
Would it be possible to at least have global variables which store remaining and total space on the ipod? Then we could put it in a panel or the status bar for quick reference.

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Reply #464 –
unfortunately i dont have itunes installed (been 6 months). i was using winamps ml_ipod, which is much faster than itunes. ml_ipod is the only reason i keep winamp installed.

anyways, heres the zip file:
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/52236/folders.zip

it contains 2 folder.
one from when it works, and another from after it breaks.
i can just delete my itunes folder on the ipod and put the working files back.

no files are missing, what is there is what is made

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Reply #465 –
Quote from: alphameric on
unfortunately i dont have itunes installed (been 6 months). i was using winamps ml_ipod, which is much faster than itunes. ml_ipod is the only reason i keep winamp installed.

anyways, heres the zip file:
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/52236/folders.zip

it contains 2 folder.
one from when it works, and another from after it breaks.
i can just delete my itunes folder on the ipod and put the working files back.

no files are missing, what is there is what is made

Is that basically before and after the shuffle has been restarted?

I think maybe your Shuffle 1G doesn't like iTunes 7.1 iTunesDB format (though I'm not sure what it does with the iTunesDB anyways?) Either that or there is some timestamp, checksum somewhere Im missing. It would be interesting to know what iTunes 7.1 does write to a 1G Shuffle.

Can you try foo_dop 0.3.9?
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Reply #466 –
i'll give 3.9 a try once i break it again, because for some reason, it's working now. All i did was copy the working files back to the ipod after it was broken. Now it works without any problems. I can turn it on and off and it will still work, so something is definitely wonky.

adding music and such might break it, but i'll have to check when i get home.

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Reply #467 –
I'm a little confused about the "How do I store songs on my iPod in my own directory structure?"

I copied my music folders into Ipod (G:) then went into foobar then did "load directory" and selected all the directories that I had just copied and put then chose all those files and did the send to ipod thing. It came up as error though saying that filename too long or something. I have a 5.5g 80gb video ipod.

Any help would be appreciated. Unfortunately I can't rockbox my 5.5g yet because its not supported.

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Reply #468 –
Quote from: TDRKZ on
I'm a little confused about the "How do I store songs on my iPod in my own directory structure?"

I copied my music folders into Ipod (G:) then went into foobar then did "load directory" and selected all the directories that I had just copied and put then chose all those files and did the send to ipod thing. It came up as error though saying that filename too long or something. I have a 5.5g 80gb video ipod.

Any help would be appreciated. Unfortunately I can't rockbox my 5.5g yet because its not supported.

It was really explained in the wiki you read already:
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Note: The path of media files on the iPod must be less than or equal to 57 characters, including a leading backslash (but not the drive letter or colon) and may only contain ASCII characters. Furthermore, some iPod models will only play files contained within the iPod_Control\Music folder.
In short: there's not much point to it, unless you are particularly annoyed by the Fxx folders. The last note definitely applies to 5.5g iPods with 1.2.1 firmware (it will not play them/skip them).
If you just want to be able to copy files off an iPod, you can just do "load library" in foobar and drag them from there.
I should've also added to the wiki that if you put too many songs in the same directory, the iPod will start skipping them.
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Reply #469 –
Quote from: TDRKZ on
It came up as error though saying that filename too long or something. I have a 5.5g 80gb video ipod.

http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start  see the wiki.  as it says:
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The path of media files on the iPod must be less than or equal to 57 characters, including a leading backslash (but not the drive letter or colon) and may only contain ASCII characters. Furthermore, some Ipod models will only play files contained within the iPod_Control\Music folder.

So if the total directory + filename is longer than 57 characters it won't work.  Not hard to do with a lot of albums or artists with long names if you use something like artist\album\track number - title.mp3.

This sentence is exactly\ fifty-seven characters long.mp3
^ anything longer than that total.

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Reply #470 –
foo_dop 0.4.1 TEST released. This adds a gapless info scanner for MP3s only. Please see wiki for usage notes.

It doesn't support MP4 (AAC) because foobar doesn't provide me with the encoder delay/padding values as it does for MP3, and I have zero info on how it is stored in the MP4 file for either iTunes or Nero encoded files.
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Reply #471 –
GAPLESS! And there was much rejoicing!

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Reply #472 –
thank you for your hard work. finally i can get rid of itunes :>

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Reply #473 –
I know that there's a ton of stuff to be done, but I had an feature request that would be really useful:

Add a command (or even better, make it automatic) to add a special tag to all files in the database that match those stored on the iPod. Then you could make an autoplaylist with music that's NOT on the iPod, or format tracks to easily identify which songs are on there, etc. Store the tag in the config file so there's no file modification.

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Reply #474 –
Quote from: Killmaster on
I know that there's a ton of stuff to be done, but I had an feature request that would be really useful:

Add a command (or even better, make it automatic) to add a special tag to all files in the database that match those stored on the iPod. Then you could make an autoplaylist with music that's NOT on the iPod, or format tracks to easily identify which songs are on there, etc. Store the tag in the config file so there's no file modification.

Not feasible.