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How to tag multi-disc albums?

What's the preferred / best method for tagging albums with multiple discs (musicals, live albums, ...) to them? I found a thread about directory structure but nothing conclusive about tagging.
I thought about posting this in the tag standard discussion thread, but I have a few special requirements which might make a good solution for me undesirable as a "standard". I try to keep my collection in .flac for lossless and .mp3 for lossy. Most probably foobar2000 uses native tags for the .flacs, for the .mp3s I use the ID3v2 plugin. Before you start flaming - neither my Squeezebox nor my portable read APEv2 tags, and ID3v1 garbles my Japanese unicode tags, on top of being unflexible.
There's DISC, there's PARTINSET, the Squeezebox even uses DISCC for the number of discs - is there any one way of tagging that will work with most/all players? (I'd be fine with a method that works for the iPod, the iAudio U2, the Squeezebox ond foobar2000, though )

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #1
The DISC-tag is the standard.

- Lyx
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How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #2
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The DISC-tag is the standard.

- Lyx
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I thought it was DISCNUMBER, like TRACKNUMBER.


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The DISC-tag is the standard.

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I thought it was DISCNUMBER, like TRACKNUMBER.
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IMHO, a real standard cannot exist in this case.

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Reply #5
I was just using (Disc X) after the album name, but I've just swtiched to the DISC tag.

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Reply #6
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Xiph.org suggests DISCNUMBER in the Vorbis specs. Personally, I use DISCNUMBER to number the discs.
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Hmm. I can't find DISCNUMBER in the latest version of the spec. The Wayback Machine doesn't show any version which mentions DISCNUMBER either.

I might have picked it up from Jonathan Walter's tagging proposals or other similar proposals then.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #7
For Mp3 with ID3v2 tags go for PARTINSET with x/x syntax. It gets recognized by itunes.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #8
i just use DISC=1, DISC=2, etc etc

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #9
Wasn't there a VOLUME or something like that :S
hi

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #10
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Xiph.org suggests DISCNUMBER in the Vorbis specs. Personally, I use DISCNUMBER to number the discs.
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This way you can tag Enya's A Box of Dreams boxed set like this:

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=1
DISC=Oceans

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=2
DISC=Clouds

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=3
DISC=Stars

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Reply #11
I actually like that, works for James Morrison - Three Minds to.

ALBUM=Three Minds
DISCNUMBER=1
DISC=Hot

ALBUM=Three Minds
DISCNUMBER=2
DISC=Swing

ALBUM=Three Minds
DISCNUMBER=3
DISC=Cool

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #12
I've been using %DISC NAME% for that kind of tagging. Perhaps I should also convert to using DISCNUMBER and DISC.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #13
Are there remappings (from/to DISC to something else) in place in fb2k? If yes, which ones?
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Reply #15
I am talking about something different. As far as i know, there are some remappings in place in fb2k, which are not visible "on the surface" and also not part of the tagz-fieldremappings.

For example, RGain is stored differently depending on the fileformat - but you dont notice that in tagz.
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Reply #16
Do you mean, like APEv2 "TRACK" for Musepack being remapped to "TRACKNUMBER" for TAGZ with 0.8.3?

I'm not aware of anything concerning %disc%.

As a side note, IMHO %__replaygain_track_peak% etc are tech info fields, which IMHO don't necessarily need to match the physical descriptions.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #17
Ok, so before I stored it i the album tag just as (Disc X) but now I've converted to DISC, but my playlist (Columns UI) is sorting it wierdly:
-track 1, disc 1
-track 1, disc 2
-track 2, disc 1
-track 2, disc 2
....
You get the picture. How do I solve this?

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Reply #18
You want to add DISC somewhere in the sort string (Playlist->Sort->Sort by...) and probably also in the prefs Core->Sort incoming files by:
for example my string is:
$if2(%ALBUM ARTIST%,%ARTIST%) - %DATE% - %ALBUM% - %DISC% - $num(%TRACKNUMBER%,3) - %TITLE%

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Reply #19
But that doesn't sort the tracks as soon as they are added to the playlist (by the albumlist panel)

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #20
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This way you can tag Enya's A Box of Dreams boxed set like this:

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=1
DISC=Oceans

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=2
DISC=Clouds

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=3
DISC=Stars
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I like this. It works with Ani's album Revelling/Reckoning well

Album=Revelling / Reckoning
Discnumber=01
Disc=Revelling

so id just use

$if3(%disc%,%album%,%location%)

for my album list.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #21
ALBUM = In The Mix
DISC = 1
DISCNAME = Sundown

ALBUM = In The Mix
DISC = 2
DISCNAME = Sunrise

Is how I do it.

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #22
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But that doesn't sort the tracks as soon as they are added to the playlist (by the albumlist panel)
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if you set it in the prefs (Core->Sort incoming files by:) it does

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Reply #23
Thank you very much

How to tag multi-disc albums?

Reply #24
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This way you can tag Enya's A Box of Dreams boxed set like this:

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=1
DISC=Oceans

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=2
DISC=Clouds

ALBUM=A Box of Dreams
DISCNUMBER=3
DISC=Stars
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Note that the different "parts" of an album do not always correspond with individual discs. As examples I could name lots of classical opera's, but I also recall Kyuss' album "Welcome to Sky Valley", 1 CD in 3 parts I, II, III covering a total of 10 tracks.

Hence I don't use DISC/DISCNAME to name these parts, I use PART, or rather ... I used to do that - my current, simple system is embedding all info in the title fields:

Code: [Select]
I: Gardenia
  ...  Asteroid
  ...  Supa Scoopa
II: 180°
  ...  Space Cadet
  ...  Demon Cleaner
III: Odyssey
  ...  Conan Troutman
  ...  N.O.
  ...  Whitewater


Nearly every classical CD has such "parts", and often they don't correspond with DISCS (e.g. 2 parts spread over 3 discs).