How to reduce unproductive discussion? 2017-07-06 00:35:04 It seems to me that over the years productive discussions at HA have slowed down while useless bickering and retreading of the same old misconceptions has increased. How many thousands of threads like "Vynil or digital?" does this world of ours really need? And there's a good chance that thread and others like it are deliberate (and very successful) trolls.I don't think this decline is just the way of all the world. I think there are things that can be done to change the atmosphere and reputation of this community and spare a lot of wasted time and antagonism.I'd like to hear proposals for how to change this. I'll repeat my proposal, earlier mentioned here and here:When a "newbie" posts a question that shows they are either ignorant of or misinformed about basic audio topics, DON'T let them bait people with misinformation that borders on TOS violations, and DON'T let regulars fall all over each other with nitpicking each others' corrections or rehashing old arguments without addressing the OP. Instead, point the newbie to good resources for learning basic audio topics (like the Xiph digital audio primer or the HA wiki), which will do a better job of informing people than a forum argument will, and LOCK THE THREAD until the "newbie" demonstrates that they've absorbed that information and can ask a better question.If regulars really must have it out with each other again over the same old arguments, they can do it in another thread rather than turning the OP's question into an only-tangentially-related boxing match.Perhaps some amendment to the TOS would be advisable to codify this.The thread-locking boilerplate I suggested earlier follows:Quote"Hello and welcome to HydrogenAudio! It appears that your post is heavily based on some common misunderstandings about digital audio, human auditory perception, blind testing and scientific method, or related topics. Here are some well-designed resources that teach our best scientific understanding of these concepts: (insert links to xiph videos, wiki pages, other things that people have spent real effort turning into good educational tools). Even if you think the science here is incomplete, it's vital that you understand it before critiquing it, and without that shared foundation, conversations often consist of people talking past each other. To help keep the quality of discussion here at HA high we have locked this thread until you pass this linked multiple-choice quiz about digital audio. PM me with the passcode you get when you pass the quiz and I'll unlock the topic. If you have questions about what you're learning from the above links, or if you are interested in discussing something else, feel free to start a new topic!"