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Lossless Audio Compression => Lossless / Other Codecs => Topic started by: tinpanalley on 2011-06-03 21:03:04

Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: tinpanalley on 2011-06-03 21:03:04
Hey all,

I have a bunch of FLACs and accompanying CUE to split up the audio.

I understand the following:
1. EAC can handle the splitting if I convert the FLAC to WAV first.
2. CueTools can do it right away without any other steps.

What I don't understand is why when I'm done with CueTools the split audio tracks are less bitrate than the original large FLAC? Isn't there any way to do it without losing bitrate? Maybe there's some new tool that's used for this and I'm out of date with my software. If so, let me know.

Thanks, guys.
Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: _m²_ on 2011-06-03 21:32:10
Probably CueTools decodes them to wav first, does the splitting and encodes them back using stronger settings.
Anyway, merge one of albums and compare flac fingerprint with the original and you'll know whether there was any change.

With lossless audio bitrate has nothing too do with quality.
Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: tinpanalley on 2011-06-03 21:40:27
merge one of albums and compare flac fingerprint with the original

How do I do this? Is there a program? Can Sound Forge do this?

With lossless audio bitrate has nothing too do with quality.

Right, I remember having read that.
Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: Zarggg on 2011-06-04 07:11:34
If I remember correctly, CUETools does re-encode individual tracks when splitting.

If you're converting FLAC->FLAC you will not lose quality. Period.
Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: Lorem Ipsum on 2011-06-04 10:00:50
In short, the main thing to remember is that when dealing with FLAC (as well as any other lossless compression):
bitrate ≠ quality.


If you must, you could sort-of say that
bitrate ≅ efficiency
Where in "efficiency" you would say that "using less space to store the same (repeat, same) data is more efficient".
And then we would begin to argue the "efficiency" term also in regard to consuming CPU power, compatibility issues and others.

However, before you get confused as you are, go back and re-read the first two lines of this reply.

-- L. Ipsum
Title: Splitting FLAC with CUE file, less quality?
Post by: tinpanalley on 2011-06-08 22:57:23
Thanks so much, guys. Much appreciated.
And no, I understand you Lorem. I got it. Thanks! I'll just use CueTools then. It's much more automate than going about it the long way and I have a lot to split up. Just have to learn how to automate it.