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Hydrogenaudio Forum => General Audio => Topic started by: wisodev on 2008-08-21 07:28:41

Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: wisodev on 2008-08-21 07:28:41
I must say that new Songbird looks to me more and more like foobar2000, quote from Songbird website: (http://getsongbird.com/)
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We've completely redesigned Songbird to make it simpler and more intuitive.

Its my personal view that this looks very very good, I will give it a one more try
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: slimserver on 2008-08-21 09:06:13
I must say that new Songbird looks to me more and more like foobar2000, quote from Songbird website: (http://getsongbird.com/)
Quote
We've completely redesigned Songbird to make it simpler and more intuitive.

Its my personal view that this looks very very good, I will give it a one more try


It looks like they are working on a modernized MusikCube.

(http://getsongbird.com/images/screenshots/07/songbird-beta-fullsize.jpg)
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2995/screen1wu7.png)
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: Fandango on 2008-08-21 19:27:36
Does it still become unusable when you have a few 1000 tracks in the database? How often does it crash now?
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: senab on 2008-08-21 19:38:13
Just tried it, and yes it does seem much better than the previous releases. Especially like the new GUI, very nice. As usual, the things that annoy me though:

* No support for Album Artist / Band tag.
* No support for Disc tag.
* Can't add or change columns in playlist (why isn't there a track number column?)
* Doesn't pick up all of my Album Art (not sure why as they're all folder.jpg's)

If they could fix them (and get Replaygain and Gapless playback support from GStreamer) I'd switch from foobar2000.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: Cutter on 2008-08-23 19:20:39
If they could fix them (and get Replaygain and Gapless playback support from GStreamer) I'd switch from foobar2000.

Why? What are Songbird's advantages over foobar2000?
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: TREX6662k6 on 2008-08-23 20:24:29
Just updated today on my Mac. Its a good alternative until I can get Darwine to work with foo_dop.

But...
[rant]I hate how it decides to re-write the iTunes database every time I plug my iPod in.
Its not very CPU friendly either.
Oh and how many times a week must they update the english language file [/rant]
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: senab on 2008-08-23 20:38:25
If they could fix them (and get Replaygain and Gapless playback support from GStreamer) I'd switch from foobar2000.
Why? What are Songbird's advantages over foobar2000?


The fact that Songbird is multi platform. I use Windows and Linux in equal amounts, therefore having a command music player across both would be really good.

Foobar2000 is good for library management, replaygain scanning and other utilities, but I like the more simplistic UI of iTunes, Songbird et al for actual music listening.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: slimserver on 2008-08-23 20:46:59
J. River Media Center or the FREE J. River Media Jukebox is by far the best out there.
Media Center Features (http://www.jrmediacenter.com/features.html)

(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5290/mc12jr5.jpg)
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: Bryanhoop on 2008-08-23 20:49:04
J. River Media Center or the FREE J. River Media Jukebox is by far the best out there.
Media Center Features (http://www.jrmediacenter.com/features.html)

(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5290/mc12jr5.jpg)



I agree. And MC13 is coming soon.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: Neasden on 2008-08-23 21:02:12
I'd just switch from foobar200 if Songbird would do:

* Masstagging
* ReplayGain Calculation
* File Operations (Del, Ren)
* Async Converter
* Bit-compare
* EQ
* Kernel Streaming

I know some of it is only done via FB2k plugins, this is the problem when you get used to so much modularity, you can't let it go.
Songbird looks promising though, specially for us Linux enthusiats that never made the final step as towards using absolutely no Microsoft software.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: MichaelW on 2008-08-24 05:40:52
J. River Media Center or the FREE J. River Media Jukebox is by far the best out there.


I see nothing on its site that says what platforms it runs on, so I assume it is Windows only, and therefore has nothing to offer to those of us who would like something like f2k on the *nixoids.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: Squeller on 2008-08-24 05:53:22
"Powered by Mozilla" (the inverse Mozilla power) - No, no need for another Mozilla resource, cpu and startup hog.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: vlada on 2008-09-02 00:55:19
As usual, the things that annoy me though:

* No support for Album Artist / Band tag.
* No support for Disc tag.
* Can't add or change columns in playlist (why isn't there a track number column?)
* Doesn't pick up all of my Album Art (not sure why as they're all folder.jpg's)


1) There is Album Artist tag. Just look at file's properites.
2) If you mean disc #, it is there too.
3) You can add or remove any columns including track number.
4) The reading of album art is not very good yet. This needs to be improved.

I just started developing an addon for this player which changes layout. It uses the same system of extensions as Firefox. You can add almost any functionality with an extension. It still has some drawbacks and missing features compared to foobar2000, but it is the best multiplatform player. It looks very promising, especially with the plan to switch to GStreamer backend. That should enable custom equalizer, gapeless playback, replaygain, transcoding and many other useful features.
Title: Songbird 0.7.0 Beta
Post by: ~*McoreD*~ on 2008-09-02 16:50:29

As usual, the things that annoy me though:

* No support for Album Artist / Band tag.
* No support for Disc tag.
* Can't add or change columns in playlist (why isn't there a track number column?)
* Doesn't pick up all of my Album Art (not sure why as they're all folder.jpg's)


1) There is Album Artist tag. Just look at file's properites.
2) If you mean disc #, it is there too.
3) You can add or remove any columns including track number.
4) The reading of album art is not very good yet. This needs to be improved.

I just started developing an addon for this player which changes layout. It uses the same system of extensions as Firefox. You can add almost any functionality with an extension. It still has some drawbacks and missing features compared to foobar2000, but it is the best multiplatform player. It looks very promising, especially with the plan to switch to GStreamer backend. That should enable custom equalizer, gapeless playback, replaygain, transcoding and many other useful features.


That's not sufficient enough. The Filter does not have Album Artist / Band tag.

So you get into problems explained here (http://mcored.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A3BD5044D6130C47!225.entry).