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Length: How is your (lossless/all) ratio?

Hi,

because I lost trust in nero aac a bit, and because now I have >1TB hard disk space in my computer, I more and more use lossless codecs (to be honest: tak only) and avoid lossy codecs. Makes me more flexible whenever I need a lossy file for whatever hardware player, no transcoding then... No need to re-rip. Ripping takes the most time here, my dvd player only reaches 2-3x speed in safe mode, terrible. I think it's just a matter of time and my audio media library will be almost completely lossless.

Currently my lossless files make exactly 30.2% LENGTH of all my music. Are you going the same route?

BTW, fb2k has an entry in the properties page, no need for you to calculate...

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Encoding: lossy (69.8%); lossless (30.2%)

Best regards
MS

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Reply #1 –
My ratio is

lossless (90.6%); lossy (9.4%)



EDIT: Avg. bitrate for lossless only: 619 kbps
If age or weaknes doe prohibyte bloudletting you must use boxing

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Reply #2 –
lossless (76.8%); lossy (23.2%)

TAK (76.5%); Vorbis (15.0%); MP3 (8.2%); Monkey's Audio (0.3%)

I'm also really interest to see another lossless library average bitrate. Mine is 731 kbps.

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Reply #3 –
lossy (96.0%); lossless (4.0%)

MP3 (94.0%); TAK (4.0%); AAC (1.2%); DTS (0.3%); Musepack (0.3%); Vorbis (0.2%)

@buktore

my lossless average bitrate is 800 kbps. (TAK -pmax)

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Reply #4 –
Seems a bit lossy overall with my collection. This is from my foobar library with only mp3, flac and ogg in it.

Encoding : lossy (93.6%); lossless (6.4%)

Codec : MP3 (93.4%); FLAC (6.4%); Vorbis (0.1%)

Avg. Bitrate : 240 kbps (ALL)
Avg. Bitrate : 905 kbps (FLAC)
Sennheiser HD595 - Logitech Z5500 - SB XFi Xtreme Audio
FLAC -8

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Reply #5 –
My lossless files are purely for archival purpose; there is a lot of overlap between my lossy and lossless files. All the music I actually listen to is lossy, and the size is kept at under 8gb so I can fit it on my ipod nano.

The breakdown: FLAC (41.3%); AAC (31.3%); MP3 (27.3%); WMA (0.1%)

Lossless Avg. Bitrate: 909kbps (FLAC)
Lossy Avg. Bitrate: 155kbps
Dissent!

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Reply #6 –
Probably a "useless" reply but mine is currently 0%Lossless and 100% Lossy.

I used to have a library which was approx 10% Lossless and 90% Lossy (in terms of number of files- even though both had roughly the same size). IIRC, the average bitrate was near 800 kbps (using Tak pmax). I had to get rid of it because i was running out of space.

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Reply #7 –
Mine:
8675 items
Duration: 3wk 2d 13:21:50.890
Avg. Bitrate: 551 kbps
Codec: MP3 (39.1%); FLAC (21.3%); Monkey's Audio (18.4%); WavPack (13.2%); Musepack (6.7%); Vorbis (0.9%); WMA (0.4%)
Encoding: lossless (53.0%); lossy (46.9%); hybrid (0.2%)
last.fm/user/boces

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Reply #8 –
9690 files (this includes a few hundred 'filler' 4 seconds tracks on albums like NiN's Broken)

Codec: FLAC (100%)
Total Time: 765 hours
Total Size: 284.89 GB
Total Bitrate: 887kbps

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Reply #9 –
Here are my results for my modest 48Gb collection of music:
Lossy: 65.8%; Lossless: 34.2%

Broken down by codec:
FLAC: 34.2%; LAME Mp3: 65.4%; aoTuV Vorbis: 0.4%

Average bitrate for lossless: 725 kbps
Average bitrate for lossy: 194 kbps

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Reply #10 –
I'm way too paranoid....
I don't like mixing formats...
So it's 97.5% lossless, 2.5% lossy

tell you what... i don't even like mixing FLAC -5 with FLAC -8
everything has to be just perfect... each music file has [ ReplainGain | Tags | Album Art 500px | DVD Backup ]

It would be nice to have a little device to play the FLACs nicely, showing up the tags, showing up the ripping log, and displaying the Front/Back. Oh wait... I can't get more paranoid than this, can I?

Oh the filenames also follow a rule: words like "with, without, for, and, the, on, as, a" are not capitalized - always. (Within tags too)

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Reply #11 –
Quote from: Bourne on
I'm way too paranoid....

everything has to be just perfect... each music file has [ ReplainGain | Tags | Album Art 500px | DVD Backup ]


Which source do you use for your artwork? Itunes? Cover Paradies? Amazon??

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Reply #12 –
The classical music lovers like me may have an advantage when it's about lossless compression ratios I think  One more reason why Deutsche Grammophons decision to offer mp3@cbr 320 was wrong.

Lossless files (tak only) from my classical folder:
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Codec profile: TAK 5 max (56.5%); TAK 2 (29.2%); TAK normal (12.9%); TAK insane max (0.7%); TAK extra max (0.7%)
Size: 38.6GB (41 528 507 352 bytes)
Duration: 6d 19:49:47.030 (26009608037 samples)
Average bitrate: 563 kbps

My codec distribution: MP3 (57.1%); TAK (30.2%); AAC (9.9%); Vorbis (2.2%); Musepack (0.4%); MP2 (0.2%)

BTW I was expecting more "64 kb is enough" (or lame -V2) people

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Reply #13 –
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Which source do you use for your artwork? Itunes? Cover Paradies? Amazon??


I hunt them down in sites like freecovers.net, they usually come with almost 1000px, then I edit them and manipulate/correct glitches if there are any... what I don't find there, I find in google/images (a good source too)... and a few I would find in amazon.com, coz sometimes they have good scans (most of the time they don't)... a last resource would be fan sites with visual discographies... but this has proven a harder work than encoding files... perfection is a hassle.

I am thinking about scanning originals in PNG (lossless) format too...

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The classical music lovers like me may have an advantage when it's about lossless compression ratios I think  One more reason why Deutsche Grammophons decision to offer mp3@cbr 320 was wrong.


I think they decided it because of MP3 popularity and because that's what "common knowledge people" know. I think it's unfortunate not one single DVD-Player is able to handle any lossless format (not even WAV) up to these days...

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Quote from: Bourne on
I think they decided it because of MP3 popularity and because that's what "common knowledge people" know. I think it's unfortunate not one single DVD-Player is able to handle any lossless format (not even WAV) up to these days...
well, not "none" but few.

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Reply #15 –
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well, not "none" but few.


I know... ZIOVA and ZENSONIC...
that's not a player, that's the startrek spaceship... too many features...
just kidding... ZIOVA is great... I suppose the version with DVD tray actually plays DVD-Video...
The cost is around USD 299. Here that would be like $ 1.000.00 after currency conversion.
With importing taxes that could up to $ 2.000.00

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Reply #16 –
I'm just a touch past half-lossless. 56.8% FLAC, 43.2% lossy. I'm actually a bit surprised about that.

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Reply #17 –
79.2% flac playtime today.

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Reply #18 –
I have my lossless and lossy files in separate folders (one as an archive, the other is my iTunes library), but in terms of average bitrate- lossless = 978kbps, lossy = 128kbps.  I recently started my archive from scratch so I only have about 1500 songs at the moment, though I'm sure the numbers will change soon.
Archive- FLAC (-v 8)
Portable- QuickTime AAC (True VBR/-q 77)

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Reply #19 –
100% Lossless (FLAC) and 100% Lossy (MP3).  For every FLAC file I have a -V4 MP3 on a portable hard drive for quick and easy transport or transfer to my portable MP3 player.

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Reply #20 –
Quote from: Daffy on
100% Lossless (FLAC) and 100% Lossless (MP3).  For every FLAC file I have a -V4 MP3 on a portable hard drive for quick and easy transport or transfer to my portable MP3 player.

I also have transcoded all my files to -V5 MP3 with embedded images for my mp3 player (netjukebox cache).
Eventually I will also get a 100% Lossless / 100% lossy collection.
 

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Reply #21 –
Encoding : lossless (72.9%); lossy (27.1%)

Average bitrate is 750kbps for all of it.