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Winamp is opening its source code

"Winamp will open up its code for the player used on Windows, enabling the entire community to participate in its development," said the company. "This is an invitation to global collaboration, where developers worldwide can contribute their expertise, ideas, and passion to help this iconic software evolve."

https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code

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Headline says "Dec 16", so I googled for mentions. Nothing. I assume it is just a mishap for "May 16"? If the news has been up for five months without anyone noticing, it would be quite telling about what Winamp isn't anymore.

Also telling, it must be deliberate how unclear they are on whether the source will be open indeed, or whether they merely use the "open" buzzword for an "invitation to see the source and work for free for us".

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Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version"
I predict Winamp will boldly go nowhere. Way too little, way too late, imho. Kinda sad because I remember when Winamp was a godsend.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  ;~)

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@spoon

Hi
what a beautiful news , a legendary audio player
may I ak you if WACUP is the open source evelution ?
just because english is not my native language , and seems even in preview ,seems the new winamp evolution
thanks

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Well, according to many (here for example), the problem is the license that will be chosen for sources release: it'll not be FOSS very likely - since they consciously dribbled the "open source" term in this announcement - but proprietary, so this sounds a bit like "our software is definitely drowning, is anyone interested in relaunching it (for free) ?"

Nowadays it would be MUCH MORE interesting to have the foobar source code (under a FOSS license), IMHO.
Hybrid Multimedia Production Suite will be a platform-indipendent open source suite for advanced audio/video contents production.
Official git: https://forart.it/HyMPS/

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Winamp is not open-sourcing its code. As this misconception has been circulating, it's important to set the record straight. The current owner, Llama Group, has plans for the app that are not open-source compatible. Instead, as Winamp CEO Alexandre Saboundjian said, "Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version." The sort-of open-source version is going by the name FreeLLama. While Winamp hasn't said yet what license it will use for this forthcoming version, it cannot be open source with that level of corporate control.
~ https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/home-entertainment/winamp-is-not-going-open-source-heres-what-it-is-doing-and-why/

https://about.winamp.com/free-llama
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  ;~)

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Quote from: 2tec on
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Winamp is not open-sourcing its code. As this misconception has been circulating, it's important to set the record straight. The current owner, Llama Group, has plans for the app that are not open-source compatible. Instead, as Winamp CEO Alexandre Saboundjian said, "Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version." The sort-of open-source version is going by the name FreeLLama. While Winamp hasn't said yet what license it will use for this forthcoming version, it cannot be open source with that level of corporate control.
~ https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/home-entertainment/winamp-is-not-going-open-source-heres-what-it-is-doing-and-why/

https://about.winamp.com/free-llama

That writer appears to neither know the term "source-available", nor understand what "open-source" means or entails.

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https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp

Spammers are abusing the issues section presumably not happy with the somewhat restrictive license.  :D

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4 . Contributions

    Contribution to Project: You are encouraged to contribute improvements, enhancements, and bug fixes back to the project. Contributions must be submitted to the official repository and will be reviewed and incorporated at the discretion of the maintainers.
    Assignment of Rights: By submitting contributions, you agree that all intellectual property rights, including copyright, in your contributions are assigned to Winamp. You hereby grant Winamp a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, copy, modify, and distribute your contributions as part of the software, without any compensation to you.
    Waiver of Rights: You waive any rights to claim authorship of the contributions or to object to any distortion, mutilation, or other modifications of the contributions.

5. Restrictions

    No Distribution of Modified Versions: You may not distribute modified versions of the software, whether in source or binary form.
    Official Distribution: Only the maintainers of the official repository are allowed to distribute the software and its modifications.

So who's up for contributing something meaningful?  :))

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Does it implement any real technological know-how anyway that isn't present across other players at this point, like foobar2000, strawberry, mpv, et cetera?
a fan of AutoEq + Meier Crossfeed

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Yes, it does for sure, that is why its still so popular.
Please remove my account from this forum.

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Quote from: mycroft on
Yes, it does for sure, that is why its still so popular.
Is it anything more substantial than skins? There's a plugin system which might be valuable, but surely if there was a killer feature that winamp or a plugin provides someone would have implemented it elsewhere by now.

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does this include winamp aac encoder? that'd be something

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Quote from: cid42 on
Is it anything more substantial than skins? There's a plugin system which might be valuable, but surely if there was a killer feature that winamp or a plugin provides someone would have implemented it elsewhere by now.

Nostalgia is the feature :D
(and almost everybody fails to implement such thing :P)

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> does this include winamp aac encoder? that'd be something
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/9c7f91496c56738fd707905f257643b792c05bb9/Src/external_dependencies
nothing relevant in external dependencies
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/9c7f91496c56738fd707905f257643b792c05bb9/Src/Plugins/Encoder/enc_fhgaac
here is only interface between encoder
that's all I found
a fan of AutoEq + Meier Crossfeed

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Quote from: magicgoose on
> does this include winamp aac encoder? that'd be something
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/9c7f91496c56738fd707905f257643b792c05bb9/Src/external_dependencies
nothing relevant in external dependencies
https://github.com/WinampDesktop/winamp/tree/9c7f91496c56738fd707905f257643b792c05bb9/Src/Plugins/Encoder/enc_fhgaac
here is only interface between encoder
that's all I found

appreciate the effort man, thanks

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The encoder seems to be there as a MSVC library. As well as many other goodies. Complete and utter clownshoes all around. The circus is in town as the issue reports suggest, toot toot!

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i've never seen a more rule-violating github repo than this.
i've never seen a github repo with more spammed issue threads than this.
i've never seen a github repo being protested by its open-source community at large owing to its *license* than this.

namesake company had every resource at their disposal to nail this and they just... didn't.

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It Really Whips the Llama's Ass

It's animal cruelty.
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