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CUETools / Re: Is Cuetools 2.1.7 working?
Last post by korth -
That should probably be the last post of the sticky thread then.
I'll add a shorter version as a last post.

When I run Cuetools and go to the Formats options, the decoder dropdown menu is blank and the only encoder available is flake.
I can duplicate the formats page you're seeing by blocking access to the plugins folder.
Could the new directory you extracted the files to require elevated permissions?
Could you try extracting to a different location and double-check that you extracted everything?

As I hinted above, Gregory should be back in about a week or so.
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Scientific Discussion / Re: Help me understand why sound is one dimensional
Last post by jsdyson -
If a person has a picture of what they expect the sound field to be -- and then uses a singular real data point, aren't they really sustituting 'fake' (not necessarily invalid) effective data points for real ones? 
The more data points the better which, as I recall, is kind of why we moved from mono to stereo back in the 1950's. 

But please note that your ears have only two data points, yet you are able to hear a three dimensional sound field.  If two ears can do it, why can't two microphones?


Before reading -- note that there is a difference between 'HEARING' (includes the mental, head and ear characteristics) and 'SOUND' which is the pressure measurement thing.

Two microphones can do it just like two ears -- there is more information than just the simple math/physics of the sound field itself.  The brain can process directional hints like frequency response associated with outside ear/head shape, and also use mental imaging.

So, if you are talking about a computer without the brain power of the human/animal brain, then we are stuck with the the simple physics and a priori 'guesses'  (based upon expected environment.)

With all of the actual physics (without any mental imaging), plus mental imaging  available ot humans, there can be sythesized information that goes beyond the simple physics.  However, to be intellectually honest -- that information that the human brain can synthesize, the ability to use the shape/structure of the ears' environment and the hard-core physics of the environment -- that is GREATER than just the two sensors.  That is why more information can be gleaned.

So, one has to ask, are they talking about 'SOUND', or are they talking about 'HEARING'.  Hearing can gather more information (whether physically real or not), than just SOUND.

Those talking about 'imaging' beyond what can be gathered by math calculations based just on the two point sensors are really talking about HEARING -- not just SOUND.  This is probably where the confusion happens.

John
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AAC - General / Re: QAAC: discussion, questions, feature requests, etc.
Last post by duchski -
I hope somebody still reads this topic. 
QAAC 2.67 writes a non-zero value to m4a file.  Is there any way to disable this feature or is there a tag/file editor that would be able to change that _bitrate tag to a 0?    I need that for... compatibility.

Thanks in advance

SD
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Opus / Re: Opus 1.3-rc
Last post by ThaCrip -
@fabiorug

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At 48 kbps with this new build (Opus-tools v0.1.10-79-g9288f94 (using libopus 1.3-rc-2-gc1c247d7) there aren't any audible improvements yet.

I would not expect any changes from what the OP posted to that recent one NetRanger posted in terms of sound quality because what the OP posted was a 'release candidate' which means it's nearly released. so I think that's only posted in case some minor bugs turn up at the last second they can get them corrected before the official v1.3 comes out.

so basically v1.3 is v1.3 as your not going to see sound quality jumps like you did from v1.2.1 to v1.3. so from v1.3RC to a slightly newer v1.3, say v1.3RC2, things are pretty much going to be the same with maybe minor tweaks to very small things.
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General Audio / Re: Strange frequency spike near 18kHz in song
Last post by Chibisteven -
That's certainly plausible, but again, it's how high this frequency is what seemed odd to me. It's in the range of frequencies where a middle-aged person probably wouldn't even be able to hear it, so it seems odd to me that a musical choice would be made involving frequencies that are barely audible or not audible at all to a significant part of the population.

One of my neighbors couldn't understand a high pitched vocalist on the radio but her daughter could and this singer was in her early twenties and the daughter was in her preteens.  The vocalist is one of the biggest names in the type of music she produces and has even been in a few T-Mobile commercials, the last couple of years.

The vast majority of people just listen to their music to enjoy it and don't even think about looking at the spectrogram.  Because someone is unable to hear certain high-pitched sounds because of their age doesn't mean that can't enjoy it.  If the music is produced by someone that is young, then it's likely that they weren't even aware or cared if some middle age person could hear all of it or not.

I tend to think of music as one's (or a group's) auditory art and crafts.
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CUETools / Re: Is Cuetools 2.1.7 working?
Last post by ssjkakaroto -
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This new forum area is where you are supposed to post.
See MOVED: CUETools versions 1.9.5 through 2.1.5 (current)
That should probably be the last post of the sticky thread then.

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CUETools 2.1.7 is in early development and requires new prerequisites, http://cue.tools/wiki/CUETools_Download#Version_2.1.7_Prerequisites. Make sure you have them installed.
This is what is installed in my system:
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Name                                                                                 Version       
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 Multi-Targeting Pack                                  4.5.50932    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.2 Multi-Targeting Pack (ENU)                            4.5.51209    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.1 SDK                                                   4.6.01055    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 Multi-Targeting Pack                                    4.5.50710    
Microsoft .NET Core 1.1.0 - SDK 1.0.0 Preview 2.1-003177 (x64)                       4.0.3177     
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 Multi-Targeting Pack (ENU)                            4.5.50932    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 RC Multi-Targeting Pack for Windows Store Apps        4.5.21005    
Microsoft .NET Core 1.0.1 - SDK 1.0.0 Preview 2-003131 (x64)                         4.0.3131     
Microsoft .NET Core 1.1.0 - Runtime (x64)                                            1.1.0        
Microsoft .NET Core 5.0 SDK                                                          1.0.23902    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.2 SDK                                                   4.6.01590    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 RC Multi-Targeting Pack for Windows Store Apps (ENU)  4.5.21005    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 SDK                                                     4.6.00081    
Microsoft .NET Core 1.1.0 - Host FX Resolver (x64)                                   4.16.1179    
Microsoft .NET Version Manager (x64) 1.0.0-rc1                                       1.0.11123.0  
Microsoft .NET Core 1.0.1 - Runtime (x64)                                            1.0.1        
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Targeting Pack                                          4.6.00081    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Multi-Targeting Pack                                      4.0.30319    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.2 Multi-Targeting Pack                                  4.5.51651    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.1 Targeting Pack                                        4.6.01055    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6 Targeting Pack (ENU)                                    4.6.00127    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.2 Targeting Pack                                        4.6.01590    
Microsoft .NET Core Tools 2015 - Visual Studio 2015                                  14.1.21111.0 
Microsoft .NET Core 1.1.0 - Host (x64)                                               4.16.1179    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 SDK                                                   4.5.51641    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.2 Targeting Pack (ENU)                                  4.6.01590    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2                                                       4.7.03062    
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.1 Targeting Pack (ENU)                                  4.6.01055    
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Microsoft Visual C++ Compiler Package for Python 2.7                                                            9.0.1.30729     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Performance Debugger Web Views                                            14.0.25420     
Microsoft VisualStudio JavaScript Language Service                                                              14.0.25527     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Performance Collection Tools                                                       14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Performance Collection Tools - ENU                                                 14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio Community 2015                                                                          14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2015 Update 3 CTP1 Office Integration Language Pack (x64) - ENU  14.98.25331    
Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 x64 Debug Runtime - 14.0.24215                                                        14.0.24215     
Microsoft VisualStudio JavaScript Project System                                                                14.0.25527     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010  x64 Redistributable - 10.0.40219                                                     10.0.40219     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - ENU                                                    14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 x86 Additional Runtime - 14.15.26626                                                  14.15.26626    
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64)                                                                 8.0.61186      
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 x86 Minimum Runtime - 12.0.40664                                                      12.0.40664     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 SDK - ENU                                                                          14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010  x86 Redistributable - 10.0.40219                                                     10.0.40219     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Windows Diagnostic Tools - ENU                                                     14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Devenv                                                                             14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2015 Update 3 CTP1 Storyboarding (x64)                           14.98.25331    
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Visual Diagnostics                                                            14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - x86                                                    14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Visual Diagnostics - ENU                                                      14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 x64 Minimum Runtime - 12.0.40664                                                      12.0.40664     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Shell (Minimum)                                                                    14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Designer                                                                      14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio Connected Services                                                                      14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio Community 2015 - ENU                                                                    14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Shell (Minimum) Resources                                                          14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.7523                                                  9.0.30729.7523 
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.7523                                                  9.0.30729.7523 
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Diagnostic Tools - amd64                                                           14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2015 Update 3 CTP1 Office Integration (x64)                      14.98.25331    
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 x64 Additional Runtime - 11.0.61135                                                   11.0.61135     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 x86 Minimum Runtime - 14.15.26626                                                     14.15.26626    
Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 x64 Minimum Runtime - 14.15.26626                                                     14.15.26626    
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Preparation                                                                        14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 x64 Additional Runtime - 14.15.26626                                                  14.15.26626    
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Windows Diagnostic Tools                                                           14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Devenv Resources                                                                   14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Preparation                                                                        14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio Services Hub                                                                            1.0.25420.01   
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Preparation                                                                        14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - amd64                                                  14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Application Timeline                                                          14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 VsGraphics Helper Dependencies                                                     14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 x64 Additional Runtime - 12.0.40664                                                   12.0.40664     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - x86                                                    14.0.25431     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Designer - ENU                                                                14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (x64)                                                     10.0.60833     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 x86 Additional Runtime - 11.0.61135                                                   11.0.61135     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable                                                                       8.0.61187      
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 x64 Minimum Runtime - 11.0.61135                                                      11.0.61135     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Shell (Minimum) Interop Assemblies                                                 14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - amd64                                                  14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 XAML Application Timeline - ENU                                                    14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 x86 Additional Runtime - 12.0.40664                                                   12.0.40664     
Microsoft Visual Basic/C++ Runtime (x86)                                                                        1.1.0          
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 x86 Minimum Runtime - 11.0.61135                                                      11.0.61135     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3 Diagnostic Tools - x86                                                    14.0.25420     
Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 x86 Debug Runtime - 14.0.24215                                                        14.0.24215     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Update 3.1 Team Explorer Language Pack - ENU                                       14.102.25619   
Microsoft Visual Studio Team Foundation Server 2015 Update 3 CTP1 Storyboarding Language Pack (x64) - ENU       14.98.25331    
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Test Tools Language Pack - ENU                                                     14.0.23107     
Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 Profiling Tools                                                                    14.0.25123     
And according to this post:
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VC++ 2017 runtimes are binary compatible with VC++ 2015 and cover both VS 2015/2017 applications
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also Read First: a few posting guidelines.
Which program version? 2.1.7
Which tool were you using? Cuetools
What specifically were you trying to do? Convert a single .wav+.cue to multiple .flac+cue
What settings did you use? Encode (default), Mode (Tracks), Audio Output (Lossless, flac, flake)
What output format? Flac
Which encoder did you try? Flake
What were the encoder settings? -%M - -o %O -p %P
What did you expect to happen? For the single wav to be converted to multiple flac files
What happened instead? Encoder exited with error 1
Windows version: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.170707-0600)

Let me know if you need more info.

PS: I did install VC 2015 just to make sure, and the problem continued.
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General Audio / Re: Strange frequency spike near 18kHz in song
Last post by blurry_light -
I'm familiar with synthesizers, it could been how someone decided to bend a certain sample, either by the person that produced the soundfont or synthesizer used in the song or by someone tweaking the parameters of the said synthesizer in question and decided they liked how it sounded?  Producing music with synthesizers is different than recording instruments through a microphone.

That's certainly plausible, but again, it's how high this frequency is what seemed odd to me. It's in the range of frequencies where a middle-aged person probably wouldn't even be able to hear it, so it seems odd to me that a musical choice would be made involving frequencies that are barely audible or not audible at all to a significant part of the population.
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Scientific Discussion / Re: Help me understand why sound is one dimensional
Last post by Ed Seedhouse -
If a person has a picture of what they expect the sound field to be -- and then uses a singular real data point, aren't they really sustituting 'fake' (not necessarily invalid) effective data points for real ones? 
The more data points the better which, as I recall, is kind of why we moved from mono to stereo back in the 1950's. 

But please note that your ears have only two data points, yet you are able to hear a three dimensional sound field.  If two ears can do it, why can't two microphones?

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