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CD-R and Audio Hardware => CD Hardware/Software => Topic started by: isaidwoof on 2013-06-07 00:08:20

Title: M3U files
Post by: isaidwoof on 2013-06-07 00:08:20
hi all

http://eachelper.uphero.com/convloghtml.php (http://eachelper.uphero.com/convloghtml.php) is down .. it's my go to place to create M3U files (w extended info) from EAC/XLD log files. now that the site has been down for a week, it's made me realize how dependent i am on it to make ext. M3U files for me. i know how to manually make one.. but it's time consuming.

Does any one know of a small, free program that will create a EXTM3U file from a EAC/XLD log?
Title: M3U files
Post by: korth on 2013-06-07 01:08:20
Doesn't answer your question but you could try this link (http://eachelper.atwebpages.com/index.php) for EAC Helper when the site is down.

Edit: Oops, looks like this version of the site isn't up to date.
Title: M3U files
Post by: mjb2006 on 2013-06-07 01:22:43
Why would you need to convert rip logs to m3u playlists?
Title: M3U files
Post by: isaidwoof on 2013-06-07 01:59:36
Why would you need to convert rip logs to m3u playlists?



i have a little over 4000 eac/xld (mostly eac) flac rips.. ~1000 are rips from my cds, those all have m3u files w extinfo.
the other 3000 i've d/l from various private trackers; most have m3u files but alot don't.

to answer your question-- i like all my rips to have the log, cue, folder jpg and m3u file. i may have a touch of ocd.
Title: M3U files
Post by: slks on 2013-06-07 07:51:32
I've seen a lot of albums distributed "in the wild" with .m3u playlists as well. I've never really known why it seemed somewhat of a standard to include them. It's caused me nothing but waste. It's an extra file, and sometimes when I try to load up the album with certain software, it gets loaded twice - once from the actual sound files, and a second time from the playlist file.

Since you seem to be one who wants these playlists, I'm curious, what do you actually use them for?
Title: M3U files
Post by: isaidwoof on 2013-06-07 08:43:48
I've seen a lot of albums distributed "in the wild" with .m3u playlists as well. I've never really known why it seemed somewhat of a standard to include them. It's caused me nothing but waste. It's an extra file, and sometimes when I try to load up the album with certain software, it gets loaded twice - once from the actual sound files, and a second time from the playlist file.

Since you seem to be one who wants these playlists, I'm curious, what do you actually use them for?



i only d/l perfect eac/xld flac rips from private trackers.. with a proper m3u (extinfo) file in the folder, all i have to do is d/click it and it will play that album with the proper gaps and will not make that annoying 'click' sound inbetween 2 tracks that run into each other.
Title: M3U files
Post by: robert on 2013-06-07 08:47:08
IIRC, m3u files were introduced at a time, were HD space was limited and MP3 collections were put on CD-Rs. Having all necessary info in one file was a quick way to showing the contend on those CDs.

One possible reason to use m3u today, you can store arbitrary play lists.
Title: M3U files
Post by: db1989 on 2013-06-08 01:28:26
with a proper m3u (extinfo) file in the folder, all i have to do is d/click it and it will play that album with the proper gaps and will not make that annoying 'click' sound inbetween 2 tracks that run into each other.
No competent player requires a playlist in order to avoid introducing gaps between consecutive tracks. This applies especially to something as simple as M3U, which merely provides a list of paths to files. The player already has such data if the files have been loaded into its playlist.

Also, if I may presume that my opinion is reflective of the general sentiment of members here, we really do not care about where and how you violate copyright. Keep it to yourself. Consider yourself lucky if anyone takes the time to help you streamline your modus operandi.
Title: M3U files
Post by: mjb2006 on 2013-06-08 04:37:12
@isaidwoof - I think everyone here fully understands your OCD tendencies. I like my files to be just so as well, although for me that means simplifying them as much as possible.

i only d/l perfect eac/xld flac rips

I admit when I asked, I already knew the answer... These trading sites (which we won't name here, as per the Terms Of Service) are fiefdoms as bad as any BBS ever was, and as for "perfect" ... oh, I'll stop there. I had a whole rant prepared, but... off-topic.

I suppose crafting a .m3u after-the-fact has no downside, but the file's usefulness is questionable. I can think of a few reasons to have it, but only if the audio files are untagged or inaccessible (as in robert's CD-R example) does it really provide something more than just convenience.

all i have to do is d/click it and it will play that album with the proper gaps and will not make that annoying 'click' sound inbetween 2 tracks that run into each other.

This has to be completely bogus. You're saying there are players which require a .m3u to enable gapless playback of lossless audio files? I've never heard of such a thing, and can't imagine how it would even be possible. Playback of lossless files has no inherent gaps, and the gaps in lossy files can only be trimmed with the help of sample-precise metadata, which .m3u doesn't store.
Title: M3U files
Post by: greynol on 2013-06-08 17:21:01
Can't get much sillier than OCD based on misconceptions and down right cluelessness.
Title: M3U files
Post by: isaidwoof on 2013-06-09 03:16:20
thanks everyone
sorry about bringing up file sharing.. i should have read the rules.

the set-up i have works for me and i'm comfortable w it.
so i'd like to steer the topic back to my original question, does a program to make (extinfo) m3u files from a eac/xld log file exist? --
i came here because a friend told me you guys know every thing about this stuff. i read some of the posts in the forum, sounds like my friend is right; you guys are very knowledgeable. so i'm hoping someone will be able to help me.

thanks in advance.
Title: M3U files
Post by: skamp on 2013-06-09 07:46:16
I don't understand the question to begin with. M3U playlists are basically just a list of files, one per line. It can contain metadata, but frankly your files should be tagged properly to begin with.

So, just load up your files in your music player, and save the playlist. Unless your filenames don't begin with the track number, in which case you should also correct that.
Title: M3U files
Post by: db1989 on 2013-06-09 23:10:58
Furthermore, certain well-featured players can be configured to provide an option when you right-click a folder to open all desired files in a specified playlist.