Hi all,
I will be reorganizing HA and related sites such as the wiki soon. Expect some temporary outages during that time. We will likely also move the main site address from hydrogenaudio.org to hydrogenaud.io (done!). I'll post a note when the move is over.
This should make it a bit easier to update parts of the site separately from each other.
Thanks! Does the site has a Twitter where we can check for the status once you start modifying stuff? :-)
We will likely also move the main site address from hydrogenaudio.org to hydrogenaud.io (won't work yet).
Nice shiny new address!
Thanks! Does the site has a Twitter where we can check for the status once you start modifying stuff? :-)
If the homepage says it's down, it's down. If it says it's up, it'll be up
Was that really so silly? Never mind
What is a dot 'io' URL?
Come on, Google it.
What is a dot 'io' URL?
It's for that big Jupiter moon Io (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Io_%28moon%29) of course!
The wiki has been moved.
If I could figure out how to Google something like 'io' without getting ten million responses, I would.
Make that 171,000,000 responses.
If I could figure out how to Google something like 'io' without getting ten million responses, I would.
Sometimes Wikipedia is your friend (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.io), rather than good ol' Google.
Anyway, very good news. Thrilled to see work towards the future of this - at least for me - beloved site. Thanks Garf and anyone else involved.
What is a dot 'io' URL?
Also What is a dot 'io' URL? (https://www.google.com/search?q=What+is+a+dot+%27io%27+URL%3F&oq=What+is+a+dot+%27io%27+URL%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)
I think he got it anyway, good news for the update.
We will likely also move the main site address from hydrogenaudio.org to hydrogenaud.io (won't work yet).
why?
We will likely also move the main site address from hydrogenaudio.org to hydrogenaud.io (won't work yet).
why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org)
Well, I would like to see newer CMS, which would support mobile devices. Other than that, cheers for domain name, I like it.
We will likely also move the main site address from hydrogenaudio.org to hydrogenaud.io (won't work yet).
why?
Are you asking why it won't work yet or why the domain will move?
It won't work yet because I haven't moved the HA forums part of the site.
We're moving to .io because the .org domain is still owned by Dibrom and he's increasingly hard to get hold off, and I need to be able to change our DNS configuration. If I can't reach him in a month or two the .org domain will stop functioning.
Well, I would like to see newer CMS, which would support mobile devices. Other than that, cheers for domain name, I like it.
I won't make too many promises but at least that should now be a lot easier and realistic.
Main HA site moved.
www.hydrogenaud.io works, hydrogenaud.io not. Will fix.
Hi Garf!
Smooth migration so far: compliments!
Have you considered issuing 301 HTTP response codes for old URLs so that Google can maintain indexes, page rank and everything else?
Are you under Apache? This can be done quite easily with some .htaccess magik...
Sergio
Have you considered issuing 301 HTTP response codes for old URLs so that Google can maintain indexes, page rank and everything else?
They should all already be doing that.
I had the impression that the redirects did come with a 200 OK response, but I may be wrong... I will check better...
Sorry, I was wrong: the redirect responses have a 301 response code, which is absolutely correct!
Sorry, I was wrong: the redirect responses have a 301 response code, which is absolutely correct!
You might have been looking at the wiki. I only just fixed that.
Hi!
No I was looking at the site, but with Firebug and the redirect responses just flickered for a moment before disappearing (Firebug clears the NET panel when you change domain). With IE I was able to check in a more reliable way and everything was OK! Just a mistake from me, sorry.
Do you plan to redirect again to http://hydrogenaud.io (http://hydrogenaud.io) later on? That would be cool, IMHO... I always found the "www" totally useless and I tend to get rid of it in my domains...
Hi!
No I was looking at the site, but with Firebug and the redirect responses just flickered for a moment before disappearing (Firebug clears the NET panel when you change domain). With IE I was able to check in a more reliable way and everything was OK! Just a mistake from me, sorry.
The latest Firefox has a Developer->Network thing that may be useful.
Do you plan to redirect again to http://hydrogenaud.io (http://hydrogenaud.io) later on? That would be cool, IMHO... I always found the "www" totally useless and I tend to get rid of it in my domains...
I'm not planning to change this part of the setup. There's also wiki., which is actually on a seperate server now, so the distinction makes some sense...to me.
The DNS is now updated so the hydrogenaudio.org stuff leads directly to the new server.
There's still a whole bunch of links *inside* the forum, like posts, that will break if the old server disappears (and the .org DNS stops working). Can't do much about those :-/
There's still a whole bunch of links *inside* the forum, like posts, that will break if the old server disappears (and the .org DNS stops working). Can't do much about those :-/
Search & replace database entries matching hydrogenaudio.org, maybe?
We're moving to .io because the .org domain is still owned by Dibrom and he's increasingly hard to get hold off, and I need to be able to change our DNS configuration. If I can't reach him in a month or two the .org domain will stop functioning.
This seems like a rather drastic move. Was there a dispute over the old domain name? Is he planning to point hydrogenaudio.org at a porn site or just let it expire? I assume that he refuses to give you control of it.
Very reassuring to see even how old threads are dealt with by search engines is being properly taken care of.
Long live HA!
I assume that he refuses to give you control of it.
Though I understand your curiosity, shouldn't we avoid making
assumptions on HA?
There's still a whole bunch of links *inside* the forum, like posts, that will break if the old server disappears (and the .org DNS stops working). Can't do much about those :-/
Search & replace database entries matching hydrogenaudio.org, maybe?
It would be an option, but might be tricky to get right. I guess it's not that important.
This seems like a rather drastic move. Was there a dispute over the old domain name? Is he planning to point hydrogenaudio.org at a porn site or just let it expire? I assume that he refuses to give you control of it.
I'm the last person you should ask as I haven't heard from him in more than 2 years. The server that provides the NS for hydrogenaudio.org is going away. If I do nothing then in <2 months the site simply disappears overnight. I'd rather use that time to give the people time to update their links.
It would be an option, but might be tricky to get right. I guess it's not that important.
"hydrogenaudio.org" (case sensitive) is a rather unique string to search for and replace.
I guess it's not that important.
Preventing link rot is important, I think.
It would be an option, but might be tricky to get right. I guess it's not that important.
"hydrogenaudio.org" (case sensitive) is a rather unique string to search for and replace.
Or "
hydrogenaudio.org/forums/"
I'm only a relative novice at databases, but I would think the following statement (adapted to whatever database system you use) should be sufficient:
update `TABLE` set `FIELD` = replace(FIELD, 'hydrogenaudio.org/forums', 'hydrogenaud.io/forums');
Yeah I'll give it a try when we complete the other work. Today turned into a crash course on SELinux administration.
SELinux can be a pita, but it drastically increases the level of security if configured correctly.
Brought to you by the NSA...back doors a plenty
and the code is wide open and available for you to audit at your convenience.
Let’s stop the off-topic debate before it turns into one or more ideological food-fights.
Garf and the other admins, thank you for all your work, as always.
does anyone still have the ha logo ^ in some vectorial format, perhaps its time to play around with svg version?
I'm surprised that you didn't also register hydrogenaudio.io. I doubt that everyone is going to remember the odd URL if/when hydrogenaudio.org goes flatline.
What happened to the guy who controls the old domain name? Is he living in a cave now? Nobody could knock on his door and ask "What's up"? You _really_ don't want that name to expire and then get pointed to some generic ad site.
Weird. If you do wrestle control of hydrogenaudio.org, do you change everything back??
I'm surprised that you didn't also register hydrogenaudio.io.
What would be the point?
I doubt that everyone is going to remember the odd URL if/when hydrogenaudio.org goes flatline.
*shrug* they'll have updated their links, Google will have spidered the new domain and knows about the move because the redirects are in place, so searching will also point to the right place.
What happened to the guy who controls the old domain name? Is he living in a cave now? Nobody could knock on his door and ask "What's up"?
You _really_ don't want that name to expire and then get pointed to some generic ad site.
Weird. If you do wrestle control of hydrogenaudio.org, do you change everything back??
He has other passions in life now. We did hear something back finally after I stressed the importance, so who knows, maybe we can keep the old links working. In any case I'll keep the new domain as the main one, though I might make it "hydrogenaud.io" instead of "www.hydrogenaud.io" as someone else here already suggested.
FYI there are still some problems with the mail setup, depending on your ISP you might not be able to receive validation/registration/password reset emails. We're working on fixing this.
An old version of foobar2000 hosted site was migrated. Download is one release behind (v1.3.1 vs. v1.3.2).
foobar2000.org should be up to date now.
Email/thread subscription/registration/verification issues should be fixed as well now.
foobar2000.org should be up to date now.
The "Help" > "Check for new foobar2000 versions" and "Check for updated components" menu items in v1.3.2 produce an error. Is this related?
Update check failure: Signature mismatch
Could not check for updates: Invalid response
foobar2000.org should be up to date now.
The "Help" > "Check for new foobar2000 versions" and "Check for updated components" menu items in v1.3.2 produce an error. Is this related?
Update check failure: Signature mismatch
Could not check for updates: Invalid response
Maybe. Will have to ask Peter to check what that is actually doing.
foobar2000.org should be up to date now.
The "Help" > "Check for new foobar2000 versions" and "Check for updated components" menu items in v1.3.2 produce an error. Is this related?
Update check failure: Signature mismatch
Could not check for updates: Invalid response
It's all good here.
It's all good here.
Wrong, same problem now. It was all good earlier.
Fixed by migrating some missing certificate files off the old server.
fooobar2000 component update check now fixed as well.
I have updated links to public tests on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec_listening_test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec_listening_test)
Wow things have been busy here ;D
loi --> hydrogenaud.io nice url naming tweak ;D
My thx to all those who keep Foobar2000 and the forums working ;^_^;
Foobar2000 is the BEST audio Player on the WHOLE Planet.
1) Cool and unique name "Foobar2000"
2) Cool icons/logo
3) Light weight and efficient programing ( Thx Peter ;;^_^;;) (ie NOT bloatware like some apps whose names I will not mention )
4) The plugin system, especially all the VideoGameMusic plugins I love so much ;;^_^;; ( TY so much Kode54)
5) anything else I can't think of at this second ;D.
Site seems really fast, any optimizations done (in relation to old)?
does anyone still have the ha logo ^ in some vectorial format, perhaps its time to play around with svg version?
Yep: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Hydrogenaudio (http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Hydrogenaudio)
The svg is the least likely to render correctly.
The wiki was also updated to latest version now. Let me know if something broke.
Maybe a change like this would help reinforce the new URL?
(http://i.imgur.com/HqctPW6.jpg)
I don't think we need to change the logo, it's not like the old one had .org at the end.
What *would* be nice though is a reworked favicon that has high-res icons for devices like tablets and high-dpi phones.
Site seems really fast, any optimizations done (in relation to old)?
HA is mostly unchanged, though the DNS setup on .io should be better. I don't think you can notice that past the first load, though.
foobar2000, the wiki etc are on updated software.
But I really think it's just the backend server having a faster CPU and more RAM, spitting out the page faster.
foobar2000, the wiki etc are on updated software.
i hope you're not going to upgrade IPB on the forums. from what i've seen on another site, i'm not a fan.
i hope you're not going to upgrade IPB on the forums. from what i've seen on another site, i'm not a fan.
No concrete plans for this. The new setup makes it possible to experiment with alternatives or see how bad an upgrade would break things, though.
What *would* be nice though is a reworked favicon that has high-res icons for devices like tablets and high-dpi phones.
The problem is that there are
so many different sizes.
Anyway, I got the logo from the Wiki and pulled it trough http://realfavicongenerator.net (http://realfavicongenerator.net), great stuff, really. The following should be added to the <head> section of the pages.
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="57x57" href="/apple-touch-icon-57x57.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="114x114" href="/apple-touch-icon-114x114.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="72x72" href="/apple-touch-icon-72x72.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="144x144" href="/apple-touch-icon-144x144.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="60x60" href="/apple-touch-icon-60x60.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="120x120" href="/apple-touch-icon-120x120.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="76x76" href="/apple-touch-icon-76x76.png">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="152x152" href="/apple-touch-icon-152x152.png">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon-196x196.png" sizes="196x196">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon-160x160.png" sizes="160x160">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon-96x96.png" sizes="96x96">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon-16x16.png" sizes="16x16">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon-32x32.png" sizes="32x32">
<meta name="msapplication-TileColor" content="#da532c">
<meta name="msapplication-TileImage" content="/mstile-144x144.png">
Plus the zip with all the files: http://www.audiograaf.nl/misc_stuff/hydrog...io-favicons.zip (http://www.audiograaf.nl/misc_stuff/hydrogenaudio-favicons.zip) All except the favicon.ico file are usable (because of alpha channel-constraints on .ico files) You might want to consider using the PNG version with transparancy instead of the white background that is used now.
i hope you're not going to upgrade IPB on the forums. from what i've seen on another site, i'm not a fan.
No concrete plans for this. The new setup makes it possible to experiment with alternatives or see how bad an upgrade would break things, though.
Virtual server, methinks?
Virtual server, methinks?
Yes, multiple ones actually.
Successfully changed my Firefox bookmark to hydrogenaud.io, but I lost my favicon. Clearing the cache didn't help.
Successfully changed my Firefox bookmark to hydrogenaud.io, but I lost my favicon. Clearing the cache didn't help.
That's because the site (and favicon) are at www.hydrogenaud.io. I will probably rework things to be at just hydrogenaud.io, but that hasn't happened yet.
You can just use mod_rewrite to make sure anyone that hits hydrogenaud.io/* ends up at www.hydrogenaud.io/*, I guess it depends what you want to do as you can probably do it the other way around as well
http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/i...0@%2064kbps.htm (http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/igorc/Public%20Multiformat%20Listening%20Test%20@%2064kbps.htm)
This is inaccessible now. The past archive is:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140415000000*...0@%2064kbps.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20140415000000*/http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/igorc/Public%20Multiformat%20Listening%20Test%20@%2064kbps.htm)
does anyone still have the ha logo ^ in some vectorial format, perhaps its time to play around with svg version?
Yep: http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Hydrogenaudio (http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Hydrogenaudio)
Svg embed with png fallback (for testing and commenting);
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7953236...dio/ha_logo.htm (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79532365/hydrogenaudio/ha_logo.htm)
Seems to be working fine with:
- Linux Chrome, Opera, Midori, Firefox, Qupzilla (all show svg).
- OSX Safari 7.0.3 (svg)
- On my Android phone
Reported to show png with ie11/windows.
Seems to break with:
- ie8 running in wine (no image is displayed at all). edit: First ie that seems to work is ie9.
p.s. Logo was cleaned-up from ai version.
ok, if there is no comments, perhaps one admin could make this happen?
The code is simply;
<img src="ha_vec_outline.svg" onerror="this.src=ha_vec_outline.png">
And the files are;
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7953236...vec_outline.svg (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79532365/hydrogenaudio/ha_vec_outline.svg)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7953236...vec_outline.png (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79532365/hydrogenaudio/ha_vec_outline.png)
I have updated all the links to *hydrogenaudio.org I could find on en.wikipedia.org although there may be bad links on other language versions of Wikipedia.
It was essentially a search for hydrogenaudio.org and replacing all instances with hydrogenaud.io (except where it's just the publisher name in a citation, where I changed it to hydrogenaudio and dropped the .org)
Well done for migrating all the hosted resources well in advance of hydrogenaudio.org closing.
The domain "hydrogen.audio" is up for grabs.
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/ (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/) is not working anymore.
Whois result for hydrogenaudio.org
Domain Name: hydrogenaudio.org
Registry Domain ID: D77568647-LROR
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Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net (http://www.gandi.net)
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Creation Date: 2001-09-21T00:14:11Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-21T00:14:11Z
Registrar: GANDI SAS
Registrar IANA ID: 81
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransfertProhibited
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Domain Status:
Registry Registrant ID: PP4645-GANDI
Registrant Name: Piotr Pawlowski
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: ul. Kazimierza Wielkiego 34/85
Registrant City: Plock
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DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ (http://wdprs.internic.net/)
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-06-19T14:21:37Z <<<
Reseller Email:
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We transfered the hydrogenaudio.org DNS, and that's still propgating. That said, both old and new server are pointing to the right IPs, so I'm a bit surprised it's not working for you.
The good news is that hydrogenaudio.org links will keep working for the forseeable future as we now control the domain again.
Good to hear you now have control over the domain! If it's propagation then it's just a matter of time...
Sorry to dig up this old thread but...
It looks like hydrogen.audio is already taken, sadly: http://www.hydrogen.audio/ (http://www.hydrogen.audio/)
Not very well though....
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http://www.hydrogen.audio/212.159.126.100 (http://www.hydrogen.audio/212.159.126.100)
predictable...
"Is Hydrogen Renewable" it says. Yep, just push the Repeat button on your player.