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Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-09-27 06:12:34
http://www.softpointer.com/index.htm (http://www.softpointer.com/index.htm)
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Sebastian Mares on 2004-09-27 14:01:17
Major new features in this version:
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Otto42 on 2004-09-27 14:49:37
That list looks suspiciously similar to the 3.1.5 new features list. Esp. considering 3.1.5 has FLAC support and all those "new frames" already.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Sebastian Mares on 2004-09-27 16:54:30
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That list looks suspiciously similar to the 3.1.5 new features list. Esp. considering 3.1.5 has FLAC support and all those "new frames" already.
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I simply copied that information from the T&R site.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Otto42 on 2004-09-27 17:18:38
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I simply copied that information from the T&R site.
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I know. I just think they forgot to update it.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Treefingers on 2004-09-27 17:30:22
Correct changelog (from my subscriber e-mail):

New in this version:
 * added support for amazon.co.uk and amazon.de
 * added proxy servers support
 * minor bugs fixed

Enjoy!! 
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: kennedyb4 on 2004-09-27 17:34:24
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That list looks suspiciously similar to the 3.1.5 new features list. Esp. considering 3.1.5 has FLAC support and all those "new frames" already.
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Maybe somebody cracked the registration codes again.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-09-27 18:25:52
Looks like WavPack files still aren't quite properly supported.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: kennedyb4 on 2004-09-28 13:34:08
Not a key gen but someone is circulating a loader with a reg key fix for 3.1.5.

Seems like a lot of software releases are feature light but necessary to stay ahead of the pirates.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Otto42 on 2004-09-28 17:13:48
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Not a key gen but someone is circulating a loader with a reg key fix for 3.1.5.
Seems like a lot of software releases are feature light but necessary to stay ahead of the pirates.
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I've seen a working key for 3.1.5 out and about. No loader needed. Every release of T&R gets cracked, either with a loader or a keygen or an actual key. I don't much see the point in them releasing new versions just to stay ahead of the pirates, as it's an impossible task anyway.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-09-28 20:32:06
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I don't much see the point in them releasing new versions just to stay ahead of the pirates, as it's an impossible task anyway.
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I totally agree with this. The time wasted in developing new tactics to combat pirates is much better spent improving features and/or creating new ones. People who want to pay, will pay. And those who do not won't and never will. Nothing will ever change about that relationship between software developer and general public. To offset piracy, they would actually be much better off putting more effort into bringing in new customers, which is where improvements to the software would pay off the most probably. This is particularly important considering this tagger costs good money and there are already a few really good ones out there that are totally free. Heck, even with being free there are a lot of people out there happy to give donations for good software (including myself). In fact I prefer donating rather than buying. Not only do you get good software and ensure it's future development, but you also get that wondrful warm fuzzy feeling knowing you did a good deed. Were am I going with this? I have no clue... I seem to have started rambling at some point. I'll stop now.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: IndieRockSteve on 2004-09-29 16:58:39
Does anyone know why they stopped using allmusic.com's database? This was a key feature of T&R in my opinion as it gave me a standard by which to name my ripped files. I wish they would add it again as an option as amazon's database is very flaky.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Otto42 on 2004-09-29 17:32:03
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Does anyone know why they stopped using allmusic.com's database? This was a key feature of T&R in my opinion as it gave me a standard by which to name my ripped files. I wish they would add it again as an option as amazon's database is very flaky.
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They were basically scraping allmusic.com's webpage, as AMG doesn't offer any way to access the data otherwise. When allmusic changed, a lot of programs broke. Instead of doing a *lot* more web scraping, they changed it to use Amazon.com's web services to get the information.

Frankly, I like Amazon's data better. Only problem is that it lacks a lot of more obscure albums.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: jtclipper on 2004-09-30 07:49:59
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Does anyone know why they stopped using allmusic.com's database? This was a key feature of T&R in my opinion as it gave me a standard by which to name my ripped files. I wish they would add it again as an option as amazon's database is very flaky.
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They were basically scraping allmusic.com's webpage, as AMG doesn't offer any way to access the data otherwise. When allmusic changed, a lot of programs broke. Instead of doing a *lot* more web scraping, they changed it to use Amazon.com's web services to get the information.

Frankly, I like Amazon's data better. Only problem is that it lacks a lot of more obscure albums.
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not so...
AMG changed the TOS, and it is actually a hell of a lot easier to parse the new site.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Otto42 on 2004-09-30 14:59:27
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not so...
AMG changed the TOS, and it is actually a hell of a lot easier to parse the new site.
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As I recall, the original TOS disallowed scraping too, it was just ignored. And parsing the new site is a PITA, IMO, as you need to load several pages instead of just one.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: jtclipper on 2004-10-01 07:39:20
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not so...
AMG changed the TOS, and it is actually a hell of a lot easier to parse the new site.
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As I recall, the original TOS disallowed scraping too, it was just ignored. And parsing the new site is a PITA, IMO, as you need to load several pages instead of just one.
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no..
The old TOS was not as strict as the new one even for freeware. I talked and mailed the amg people more than once.
And yes the new site is easier to parse I should know I did it then and I did it now.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: XxAlchEmysTxX on 2004-10-12 08:53:38
There are good Open Source alternatives to T&R. I switched to MP3 Book Helper and never looked back. Does everything T&R does and then some. But they take a slightly different approach to it but easy enough to learn. I recommend it and it's always good to support Open Source Software (Y).

MP3 Book Helper (http://mp3bookhelper.sourceforge.net/)
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Jebus on 2004-10-13 01:33:49
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There are good Open Source alternatives to T&R. I switched to MP3 Book Helper and never looked back. Does everything T&R does and then some. But they take a slightly different approach to it but easy enough to learn. I recommend it and it's always good to support Open Source Software (Y).

MP3 Book Helper (http://mp3bookhelper.sourceforge.net/)
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How does using open source software = supporting it? I mean, by using and paying for T&R you are "supporting" a project, but by using something for free and not donating or sending contributions, you can't really say that you're "supporting open source". You're just using it.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: mata on 2004-10-13 01:38:06
it doesn't support monkey audio


edit: OK it does, but the main page doesn't mention it 
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: fyer on 2004-10-18 15:00:11
mp3tag is better and it's free.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-10-18 15:39:00
Oops, double post. Please delete this one, thanks.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-10-18 15:39:30
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mp3tag is better
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No, it isn't. But then, everyone is entitled to their own opinions for different reasons, aren't they. After all, everyone has slightly different needs. In my case I've found Tag&Rename fit them better than mp3tag. Not saying mp3tag is bad though, just to be clear. But if I were going to use a free tagger, then I'd use The GodFather FWIW.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: fyer on 2004-10-18 16:35:50
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mp3tag is better
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No, it isn't. But then, everyone is entitled to their own opinions for different reasons, aren't they. After all, everyone has slightly different needs. In my case I've found Tag&Rename fit them better than mp3tag. Not saying mp3tag is bad though, just to be clear. But if I were going to use a free tagger, then I'd use The GodFather FWIW.
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but it's totally free...
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digga on 2004-10-18 16:43:34
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mp3tag is better

No, it isn't. But then, everyone is entitled to their own opinions for different reasons, aren't they. After all, everyone has slightly different needs. In my case I've found Tag&Rename fit them better than mp3tag. Not saying mp3tag is bad though, just to be clear. But if I were going to use a free tagger, then I'd use The GodFather FWIW.


but it's totally free...
so what?! TGF is also totally free, it really is very very free. free. totally.   
there are some very good free tagers or all-in-one solutions available (at least three), so let's not get this thread too OT. in the end it comes down to personal preferences and needs as mentioned above already.

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Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: jokull on 2004-10-19 03:39:55
MP3 tag studio is in my opinion the best all round tag software when you're only tagging mp3's. It's built on an increadibly quick engine and has an overload of features. The interface is intimidating but worthwile to learn.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: Digisurfer on 2004-10-19 15:44:40
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preferences and needs as mentioned above already

Exactly. The main reason I still use Tag&Rename is because I'm most comfortable with it. Everything is up front, and I know exactly what I'm deleting/changing. This is one area that I don't like about mp3tag, which always makes me paranoid. I'm never sure what I'm mucking up because what tags are being affected is hidden in the options instead of up front where it should be. That doesn't mean I hate mp3tag. On the contrary, I actually use it for other reasons. Mainly the ability to export tags to file and then reimport that file and apply the tags to another set of files. TheGodFather is great for organizing, cleaning up tag/filename text, and mass renaming. Also, none of these program works perfect all the time. Sometimes one of them will show a file as having no tags or fail to fully remove them, and usually one of the others will, allowing me to fix the problem. They all have their strengths and I use each one depending on my needs.
Title: Tag&Rename 3.1.6 is out.
Post by: aaldaaf on 2004-10-21 07:25:33
While the screen looks like a crazy maze at first I find Tag&Rename a very quick and easy tool to clean up even very messed up files.  I don't mind the price I paid for a profesionaly supported program and feel they deliver value.  Now if they start pulling the all too familier trick of renaming the product every few releases and charging a new fee I might consider the free programs again.  So far they seem to be playing fair.