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Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #50 –
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You asked for a better name for "Prevent playlist update". I believe i would have understood the function with a name like "Don't send selection to Facet playlist"

That would be too long for a menu caption and almost exactly what you can read in the status bar.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #51 –
Quote from: Frank Bicking on
Quote from: Bimbo Frogger on
(...) create an autoplaylist with the query "artist HAS chicane" the playlistname with facets ist "New Autoplaylist" and with album list the name is "artist HAS chicane".

Queries as playlist names - I'll have to check with Peter if that is actually desired.


I like queries in name! 
The main thing is however consistent behavior between different components (i hope other third party developers will thinks so too). Another iconsistenc to album list i found is following: [Example]If you create an autoplaylist out of a genre node and this node contains just one subnode album list will however take the genre as name. Your facet plugin chooses the name of child node. Creating a new playlist this is very good but if creating an autoplaylist that is very irritating because the autoplaylist is indeed based on genre and not on special album/whatever else field.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #52 –
One of the functions that I really like about Facets is the ability to make changes in "both directions" to the query.

A couple of quirks I have noticed, both involving resorting multiple panes:

I have  a four facet setup

year>genre>artist>album

If I have
2007>All>John Smith selected I get all the 2007 releases from John Smith.

If I keep John Smith selected and go back to set year to ALL
All>All>John Smith I get ALL releases from John Smith

BUT, the  artist facet resorts when I change the year and I lose focus on the selected entry


(in this example "maria mckee" is the active selection for Artist)


Also,

If I have
All>All>John Smith I get ALL releases from John Smith

And I keep John Smith selected  go back and set year to 2007 (and there are NO John Smith albums from 2007)

2007>All>John Smith

Then Artist falls back to "ALL" and I get all albums from 2007 regardless of Artist.

I understand "why" this happens, but intuitively I would l like to see the request produce an empty playlist.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #53 –
Just a small feature request. If it exists and I missed it, let me know

I usually listen to my music with a playlist with all my stuff, shuffling with the random button (Sending to current playlist would be redundant), what I would like to see is the ability that when selecting something facets I can send it to a pre-existing/pre-defined playlist (Something like queue) or that it just jumps to the artist/album/song in the current playlist.

Great plugin! Keep up the good work!

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #54 –
expanding on nightfishing's point somewhat: if you select something in the 2nd or 3rd column, it'd be very nice if the options available in preceding columns (at the moment it's only in the following columns) are automatically limited to the ones that have the following column's chosen option as 'true' :-)

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #55 –
All I can say is WOW. This plugin is almost interface perfection, and I'm not even kidding.

That being said, I do have one request: could you add a keyboard shortcut to toggle focus on the search bar? Also make pressing enter on the search bar play the first track in the results. Just a little something for us keyboard enthusiasts.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #56 –
Simplicity and elegance rules ;]

One feature request though ;]:

'Minimum number of songs' option for facets. Nodes which have fever songs are not displayed and the songs are added to the 'All' node(or possibly new synthetic node like 'Other').

This would help browsing through artist if one has a lot of singles.
I for example set Artist facet to "[%<album artist>%]|[%<artist>%]|[%composer%]|[%band%]". I like to have all the songs of the given artist displayed ( in contrast to the fall back mechanism of %album artist% tag).
This allows me to see both composer and performer of the album (or includes covers in the original artist's node). However,  this results in lots of nodes with only few songs which clutters the list.

I think such option is nothing really fancy. I've seen it (and liked it ;]) in other, more simplistic applications, like  MEXP for winamp.

Sorry for my English ;]


PS:
This 'Other' node may be useful in earlier mentioned case of not assigning song with empty tag to the 'All' node.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #57 –
I have axed a number of posts of people who didn't read the FAQ or roadmap.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #58 –
everytime i right click on an element in facets say an album or something like that it automatically loads the facets playlist with the selection... I think this should only do so on a left click and not a right click... the reason I say this is because I like to use facets to get music to add to my ipod and I have an ipod playlist which is active and then i look in facets and i just want to add a folder/album from a pane and instead of it just letting me right click and go add to current which is what I want it highlights the selection and changes the visible playlist to the facets one...

not sure if that makes sense but its very annoying... is it not possible to either have an option where I can send to playlist and then choose the playlist i want to add/send to via a drop down menu or stop it so that if i right click it doesn't change the active playlist...
 

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #59 –
Right-clicking on an item which has not been selected before causes a selection change, and thus the "selection change" action to be executed.

If you do not want this, set the respective option to "None".

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #60 –
Quote from: Frank Bicking on
Right-clicking on an item which has not been selected before causes a selection change, and thus the "selection change" action to be executed.

If you do not want this, set the respective option to "None".


frank, sorry for repeating myself (it's just that i'm already sold on facets, so thanks for writing it :-))
but i was wondering if it is intentional that the facets are hierarchically linked..
that is, when i click something in the 2nd, or 3rd column, i'd very much like it if the preceding facets *as well as* the following ones are changed to show only the entries for which the choice in that facet is 'true'

if i select something in the first facet, all following facets are updated to reflect that choice, but if i select something in the third facet, nothing happens to the first 2.
would it be possible to fix that so that it works both ways?

thanks in advance 

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #61 –
frank your a genious, thanks again - sorry if my question has already been answered in the documentation...

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #62 –
great plugin!

But i have one problem:

When using the bar for typing stuff like band names etc. it automatically influences my playlist via hotkeys. For example every "A" will use my link to quicksearch --> album.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #63 –
Quote from: boombaard on
but i was wondering if it is intentional that the facets are hierarchically linked..

Yes. This is the very core idea of library viewers like this and it's not going to change.

Quote from: Generalverdacht on
When using the bar for typing stuff like band names etc. it automatically influences my playlist via hotkeys. For example every "A" will use my link to quicksearch --> album.

This has nothing to do with Facets, it happens in all other parts of the user interface.

Please see the paragraph about keyboard shortcuts in the 0.9.5 release notes.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #64 –
Quote from: Frank Bicking on
Quote from: Generalverdacht on
When using the bar for typing stuff like band names etc. it automatically influences my playlist via hotkeys. For example every "A" will use my link to quicksearch --> album.

This has nothing to do with Facets, it happens in all other parts of the user interface.





So it´s not possible to use "simple" shortcuts, which doesnt influence my facets-search so badly? In the Quicksearchtoolbar it works... hence it´s no longer a "regular" ui -element, meaning a regular integrated part of my layout - I´d like to replace quicksearch bar with the new search function.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #65 –
As said before, the command (keyboardshortcut) "set focus on search field" would be a great improvement.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #66 –
Hi Frank,
now, i try it in english. 

Facets is the best component i've ever seen...

The new foobar core + facets = best player in the world...


One question please: Can i use decades in facet view, like 1979-1990 or 1989-2000???

Thanks

Frank Groß

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #67 –
Quote from: Bimbo Frogger on
As said before, the command (keyboardshortcut) "set focus on search field" would be a great improvement.


Definitely a great component, but I would also like to see a keyboard short cut to the search field.
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Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #68 –
Would it be possible for the plugin to detect if a the facet playlist is currently playing, and not replace it if the selection is changed? A lot of the time I begin to play the facet playlist and then I start browsing and realize I have overwritten the playing list. Instead, maybe it could create a second playlist with a suffix or something (2).  In lieu of a persistent queue system, this would be really helpful.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #69 –
In the Facets preferences page, set the Events like this:

Selection change: None
Double-click action: Add to the Facet playlist

and you won't accidentally overwrite the playlist.
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Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #70 –
Quote from: eevan on
In the Facets preferences page, set the Events like this:

Selection change: None
Double-click action: Add to the Facet playlist

and you won't accidentally overwrite the playlist.
But then the only way to browse through other tracks would be to add them to the playing list. This would get confusing real fast.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #71 –
Sorry, but your suggested behaviour is confusing and unpredictable.

Users would end up in many situations where it doesn't behave as they expect.

Quote from: Bimbo Frogger on
As said before, the command (keyboardshortcut) "set focus on search field" would be a great improvement.

Conflicts with the ability to add multiple Facets elements.

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #72 –
Quote from: DJ ATRAC on
Hi Frank,
now, i try it in english. 

Facets is the best component i've ever seen...

The new foobar core + facets = best player in the world...


One question please: Can i use decades in facet view, like 1979-1990 or 1989-2000???

Thanks

Frank Groß


You can. I think this is what you want. If you find the preferences for facets, then in the facet columns box type "Decade" in the Name column and add the following code in the Pattern column.

$cut(%date%,3)0s


Nic

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #73 –
Hi Nic,
Thank you very much.
It works great.

Frank

 

Facets [2008-02-25]

Reply #74 –
Thank you Mr. Bicking for your wonderful work on this component. I used to enjoy this sort of thing with the old browser component but this is night and day more stable.

I wanted to request the ability to specify the name of the playlist which facet uses.  I read earlier discussion regarding dynamic naming with titleformatting pseud-code and I wanted to be clear that I am not trying to revisit that topic.

What I am asking for is an option similar to:
File> Preferences> General> Commandline: "Always send to playlist :"

This way we could specify a name for the playlist other than "Facet Selection" and given that my above example is rooted in such a core section of the main foobar preferences I should think this approach would be very much in line with the existing UI structure.

Additional thoughts:
If every component locked the user into using its own unique playlist name than we would be unable to share a playlist between components. Sharing a playlist between multiple components leads to a simpler interface for the user while expanding functionality.