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The files are not supposed to be ABX'ed, but if someone wants, feel free to do so.
Obviously different - biggest difference is the vastly larger number of tics and pops in the ELP track.
Yes, obviously different. But what's interesting is the conflicting ways that people notice the difference:

  • Arny immediately focussed on the increased impulse noise from the laser turntable. As a well-known critic of vinyl, he appears to be concentrating on what's wrong with the format.
  • OTOH, the difference that I noticed was the improved detail from the laser turntable. As someone who actually quite likes vinyl, I appear to be concentrating on an aspect that isn't something to do with the format's faults.

There's an interesting psychological difference between how we responded to these samples.


Right. I focused on the difference that was most objectively and reliably audible and quantifiable.  I counted the tics and pops that I could hear, and did that several times to ensure that I had  fairly stable numbers for each file.  I did this in FooBar's ABX comparator as randomly chosen X's, and then analyzed the ABX log to sort my tic counting runs according to the actual source.

Please tell me how you quantify "improved detail", that is reduce it to numbers that are reliable in a blind test.

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Could it be that the flaws of vinyl get under Arny's skin in such a way that he can never enjoy it, whereas I can somehow "dial it out"?

Please apply what we know about experimental design. Both samples were obviously digitized vinyl. Therefore the issues you just raised are common to both transcriptions. No such conclusion can be arrived at by any means that I know of from listening to two transcriptions of what was presumably the same LP.

I was wondering - same cartridge?

Also, I know for sure based on ABX testing that the sensitivity of my ears has been seriously damaged over the past 10 years by age (the years from 60 to 70) , and during the last 2 years by chemotherapy. I'm unsure that enough of hearing is left to have relevant opinions about more subtle things like improved detail.  I still have enough hearing left so that I enjoy music, but that is about it.

At my age I'm pretty happy tostill be able to  hear tics and pops. Some friends  my age can't. :-(

Finally, "Improved detail" and tics and pops are AFAIK orthogonal. They can be independent properties of an audio file, particularly if a particularly good job of removing tics and pops is used before the recordings are compared as related to detail.

I didn't go that far. I might, later on. I notice others have been kind of bowled over by the ELP's greater sensitivity to tics and pops, which is apparently scientifically explained, and widely perceived. At this point we even have ABX test evidence to go on. BTW I'd nominate the difference for something that really doesn't need an ABX test to reliably perceive. IMO it is so bad as to be distracting.

Please note that no way did I say that the only audible differences between the files were the tics and pops. I just said the tics and pops  were the most obvious to me. Anybody want to read my mind and argue with that statement? ;-)

I'll  leave the head shrinking that may come to mind to the readers, given the more complete explanation of the test. ;-)
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General - (fb2k) / Re: Japanese to Romaji translate
Last post by jellyfishese -
My searching finds nothing, which doesn't surprise me. Japanese is a complicated language, each kanji can be pronounced in several completely different ways depending on context, so it's not a simple as saying 空=sora (it could also be a, kara, su, muna, kuu).

You're better off having another tag for romaji/translated titles and translating them yourself.
Thanks for explaining, but there is a problem that I can't add tags to tracks, because it changes hash checksums of my torrents. In order to add tags I need to make double copy of music libriary for torrents and for myself which is kinda stupid.
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I can only  provide some of my old personal tests.


48 kbps.

Warning: This was Opus 1.2 early alpha. 1.2.1 final version contains some very important improvements.
I compared it with FhG HE-AAC (latest Winamp) encoder which was the best encoder at 32-48 kbps according to my internal tests (until Opus 1.2 has appeared)

Scores:
Opus 1.2 early alpha - 3.68
FhG HE-AAC - 3.41

Code: [Select]
	FhG HEAAC	Opus 1.2a LBR TUNE
01 Castanets 2,5 3,6
02 fatboy 2,6 4,5
03 eig 2,6 4
04 bachrprichord 4,1 3,6
05 enola 3,8 3
06 trumpet 4,1 4,1
07 applaud 3,7 3,4
08 velvet 2,7 2,8
09 linchipin 3,5 3
10 spill 4 3,5
11 female speech 4,3 4,8
12 french ad 3 3,9

Average Score 3,408 3,683


32 kbps.
Again, only Opus 1.2 alpha results. Not final 1.2.1.
I have compared to FhG HE-AACv2 again but now at ~32 kbps VBR. 
Scores:
Opus 1.2 alpha - 3.22
FhG HE-AACv2 - 2.92

Link https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,114234.msg941691.html#msg941691


P.S. You can make your own tests and  share them here.
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General - (fb2k) / Re: Japanese to Romaji translate
Last post by andrew_berge -
My searching finds nothing, which doesn't surprise me. Japanese is a complicated language, each kanji can be pronounced in several completely different ways depending on context, so it's not a simple as saying 空=sora (it could also be a, kara, su, muna, kuu).

You're better off having another tag for romaji/translated titles and translating them yourself.
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Validated News / Re: FLAC v1.3.2 Final
Last post by NetRanger -
FLAC v1.3.2-Git-2017-07-19
Built on July 22, 2017, GCC 7.1.0
32 & 64-bit Windows Binaries

https://xiph.org/flac/
https://git.xiph.org/?p=flac.git;a=summary
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General - (fb2k) / Re: Recently Added autoplaylist
Last post by jazzthieve -
There is no tag field-specific last modified.
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General - (fb2k) / Japanese to Romaji translate
Last post by jellyfishese -
It's really uncomfortable to maintain j-pop collection with japanese track names so is there any plugin that translates japanese symbols to readable romaji? Like this "玻璃の空" -----> "Hari no sora". I'd really appreciate for any help.
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The files are not supposed to be ABX'ed, but if someone wants, feel free to do so.
Obviously different - biggest difference is the vastly larger number of tics and pops in the ELP track.
Yes, obviously different. But what's interesting is the conflicting ways that people notice the difference:

  • Arny immediately focussed on the increased impulse noise from the laser turntable. As a well-known critic of vinyl, he appears to be concentrating on what's wrong with the format.
  • OTOH, the difference that I noticed was the improved detail from the laser turntable. As someone who actually quite likes vinyl, I appear to be concentrating on an aspect that isn't something to do with the format's faults.

There's an interesting psychological difference between how we responded to these samples. Could it be that the flaws of vinyl get under Arny's skin in such a way that he can never enjoy it, whereas I can somehow "dial it out"?

Please note that I'm not daft enough to claim that vinyl is an accurate medium. I fully understand how compromised it is. I think it's remarkable how enjoyable it can sound despite its limitations.
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Looks great, don't suppose there is any chance for a non-Vista build? 
I have recently added support for Windows XP too.
You can dowload it on http://www.whitebear.ch/music

Regards,
AndrewFG

does it work under Windows 10?
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>>Leave it with me and I'll report back.

* that copy & renaming workaround has remained good

* as a workaround I can additionally suggest adopting the use of the portable FB2K implementation (no problematic '32' or '64' file) -- FB2K now installed to my portable password media so I don't have to work at any further re-installation and eyeballing configuration settings across again

* have tagged the apparently problematic '32'bit file with HMP as being possibly/probably safe -- apparently the red flag arises from their assessment that it is supplied by an individual and not a 'normal' programme (go figure) -- also some declaration that it encloses a password cited as being 'unsafe' (once again go figure) -- in due course they may resolve -- my inclination is to adopt either of the above workarounds and get on with a life

...cheers