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Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 01 December, 2013, 12:32:28 PM
The developer of the famous and pioneering secure CD-ripping program Exact Audio Copy (EAC) has released a related program targeted at greater ease of use for a wider base of users.
Website: http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/ (http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/)
Synopsis:
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Easy Audio Copy is at least as reliable and exact as Exact Audio Copy as they are based on the same extraction methods. Easy Audio Copy benefits from various optimisations which increase extraction speed but ensure the reliability. The main difference is the interface which is much simpler and can be used without any background knowledge of the processes involved.
Original thread from which this was split: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....howtopic=102469 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=102469)

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The app was just released. http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/ (http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/)
The site is pretty detailed but I might be able to fill in any gaps. I did alpha test this app.
It is Windows Trialware (14-day) targeting the novice user. Price has not been listed yet.

EDIT: Just tested the current version (1.0.0.9) and there's still a bug in track numbering when HTOA is longer than 6 seconds. The app is supposed to write the hidden track as track 0 but is writing as track 1 (messing up track numbering for the remaining tracks). Bug was reported again.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Engelsstaub on 01 December, 2013, 01:22:01 PM
I'm opining here but I think the "different audience" that this sort of program seeks to "target" could be a pretty narrow one...but I could be wrong. I just don't think people (most admittedly) who already use iTunes or WMP or whatever, and don't have the time or inclination to set up and maintain a secure ripper, would be eager to add an extra step or more to what already works for them.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 01 December, 2013, 01:48:29 PM
Very few options to setup. The only two main options are output Audio Format and GUI Language. You can edit the metadata. There is an Advanced Option Tool though to adjust some other options (offer CDImage+CUE, compliant Track based CUE [with non-compliant INDEX 00 commented out], M3U8, UTF-8 CUE, always whole disc or offer track selection, file paths, track/image naming, encoder mode).
There are no options for read offset or gap detection. The program detects and sets these. Also no options for external encoders, custom tagging, metadata provider selection, C2, or rip mode selection.

Ripping is AccurateRip based to FLAC, MP3 and/or WAV. (yes and/or, you can select them all)
1st pass is Burst. If all tracks match AccurateRip, ripping is done.
2nd pass is Burst. (Only tracks that did not match AccurateRip). If tracks match AccurateRip or if SHA-1 checksum matches first pass, ripping is done.
3rd and 4th pass are Secure. (Only tracks that did not match per above). This can be aborted if it takes too long and files will be saved as is from pass 2. After you clean the CD and try to re-rip the program will offer to only re-rip the tracks that didn't rip correctly.

edited for content
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: mudlord on 01 December, 2013, 04:24:57 PM
Trialware?

Oh noez, this won't end well.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: themanintheshadows_2451 on 01 December, 2013, 04:42:22 PM
The website says, at a minimum, you'd need windows 7 just to qualify to use it. And SHA1? On my system, anything above MD5 causes a slowdown. In short, unless you have the latest and greatest system, it looks like you should steer clear of this program.

Hopefully, Exact Audio Copy won't suffer the same fate, and will continue to be compatible with a variety of OS's, unlike this new program.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 01 December, 2013, 04:48:51 PM
Very strange this program  With a cd like a movie.
I'm extracting an old cd in flac.
It seams to me slow. It did not ask me where will be copied the tracks.
I use dBPoweramp, foobar and EZ CD Audio Converter (which is in french language also).
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 01 December, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
The website says, at a minimum, you'd need windows 7 just to qualify to use it.

Website says Vista and above. Note: Microsoft is ending Extended Support for XP on April 8, 2014.

It seams to me slow. It did not ask me where will be copied the tracks.

It takes 10 CDs to configure the program to your optical drive. Ripping will take longer during this process. Files are stored in %music% by default (C:\Users\yourusername\Music\AudioFormat). This can be changed using the Advanced Options Tool (available later).
If someone were willing to translate, a French version might be possible.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 01 December, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
It takes 10 CDs to configure the program to your optical drive. Ripping will take longer during this process. Files are stored in %music% by default (C:\Users\yourusername\Music\AudioFormat). This can be changed using the Advanced Options Tool (available later).
If someone were willing to translate, a French version might be possible.

The cd is ripped error-free , the programme did not find the right cover (I choosed an other one) and it has been long (dbPoweramp found immediately the right cover and showed all tracks. EZ CD Audio also. These programms not only extract, they also convert). I have Windows 7 Pro.
Sorry if I say these bad things 

The option tools will be very useful for me. It's not easy for me to have to search where are the tracks and to copy them elsewhere.
What about ripping only a few tracks from different cd's, to create a compilation ?

Fats Domino / The Best of

Used drive          : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH24NS95  Adapter: 2  ID: 0
Used output format  : Flac
command line options : -6


TOC of the extracted CD

    Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
      1  |  0:00:33 |  2:20:27 |        33    |    10560 
      2  |  2:20:60 |  1:38:63 |    10560    |    17973 
      3  |  3:59:48 |  2:35:62 |    17973    |    29660 
      4  |  6:35:35 |  2:15:73 |    29660    |    39858 
      5  |  8:51:33 |  2:02:67 |    39858    |    49075 
      6  | 10:54:25 |  2:01:55 |    49075    |    58205 
      7  | 12:56:05 |  1:52:73 |    58205    |    66678 
      8  | 14:49:03 |  2:00:40 |    66678    |    75718 
      9  | 16:49:43 |  2:23:35 |    75718    |    86478 
      10  | 19:13:03 |  2:01:25 |    86478    |    95578 
      11  | 21:14:28 |  2:02:50 |    95578    |  104778 
      12  | 23:17:03 |  1:54:47 |    104778    |  113375 
      13  | 25:11:50 |  2:26:18 |    113375    |  124343 
      14  | 27:37:68 |  2:21:50 |    124343    |  134968 
      15  | 29:59:43 |  2:05:65 |    134968    |  144408
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 01 December, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
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Sorry if I say these bad things

I didn't develop the program but I've been using it for 3 months so I have some experience.

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The option tools will be very useful for me. It's not easy for me to have to search where are the tracks and to copy them elsewhere.

I don't know why Andre didn't provide a link. I'll need to get permission to post a link here.

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What about ripping only a few tracks from different cd's, to create a compilation ?

On the CD Information screen there should be a button at the bottom named 'Track Selection'. This will open a window that will allow you to select only one or more tracks. You'll need to group the tracks from different CDs to create the compilation on your own however.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Ouroboros on 01 December, 2013, 06:31:32 PM
I don't know why Andre didn't provide a link. I'll need to get permission to post a link here.

It's on the FAQ (http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/faq.htm) page, under "I would like to customize the application more to my needs, are there any further settings?"
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 01 December, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Thanks. Don't know why I expected to find it on the download page.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: BFG on 01 December, 2013, 11:24:26 PM
Hmm, this explains why development of Exact Audio Copy looked like it had stopped.  Any word on whether Andre is planning to continue development of both programs?

(My apologies if the answer is on the website...I cannot reach it right now for some reason.)
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: lameboy on 02 December, 2013, 04:21:12 AM
CueTools does all this already superbly and it's open source/free. Secure rips with few settings needing adjustment by the user.

This looks like a cash-in on the strength of Exact Audio Copy's strong reputation.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Wombat on 02 December, 2013, 05:13:27 AM
CueTools does all this already superbly and it's open source/free. Secure rips with few settings needing adjustment by the user.

This looks like a cash-in on the strength of Exact Audio Copy's strong reputation.

In this case no one can complain at all. Mr. Wiethoff offered the best free tool for CD ripping ever for many years with his EAC.
He deserves to make some money out of his efforts. The PC audio market is there so why not.
Worse would be if he had started a DSD download sevice
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: ktf on 02 December, 2013, 05:21:27 AM
Gallery page looks promising, looks like it is really easy to use. While I'll probably never use it, I hope it'll gain some market share.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Lashiec on 02 December, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
Hmm, this explains why development of Exact Audio Copy looked like it had stopped.  Any word on whether Andre is planning to continue development of both programs?

(My apologies if the answer is on the website...I cannot reach it right now for some reason.)

There are plans to at least release a new version (https://twitter.com/exactaudiocopy/status/373357937818755072).
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Anakunda on 02 December, 2013, 11:25:26 AM
Thank U! Is here something Easy Audio Copy can offer more once I already have Exact Audio Copy?
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 02 December, 2013, 12:26:20 PM
Not really. EAC has a lot more settings and can be customized to your needs where Easy Audio Copy is targeted at those who find all those settings too much of a challenge. Two features missing from the current EAC version are ripping based on AccurateRip results and SHA-1 checksum matching (as I described in [a href='index.php?act=findpost&pid=851567']post#3[/a]). We'll have to wait for the next version of EAC to see if either of these are added to it.

Easy Audio Copy (I've been calling it EZAC but that's unofficial) has access to the GD3 CD information database (something that requires a paid license and why this program cannot be offered for free). GD3 is an option in EAC if you pay an additional fee.

Edit: changed wording.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 02 December, 2013, 12:45:01 PM
SHA-1 checksum matching

A main feature, seriously?

It almost suggests that it's somehow more useful/desirable that what EAC already does, as if it's on the level of the other feature mentioned.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 02 December, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
OK, changed the wording.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 02 December, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
It should be named :
Difficult Audio Copy
Am I the only one testing it?
I inserted a cd...it did not find the artist nor the title...
So, it can search by bar code... the bar code I have on the cd is with numbers and 3 letters. But he likes only numbers.
It can search if I write title and artist. The problem is that he likes only artists with at least 3 letters (my artist has only 2)!

Well, I ripped my cd with an other program who found the title, the artist and all the tracks (not the cover).
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 02 December, 2013, 01:54:20 PM
The support forum can be found here (http://easyaudiocopy.proboards.com/) and the email address for support is here (http://www.easyaudiocopy.com/contact.htm). Please pass this information on to the developer.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 02 December, 2013, 02:35:42 PM
Sorry, I have no time to report anything or to ask support.
I was curious to try it and five minutes ago I uninstalled it.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 02 December, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
So, it can search by bar code... the bar code I have on the cd is with numbers and 3 letters. But he likes only numbers.

If you have a CD with a bar codes on the back cover that contains letters I'd love to see it.  Traditionally they only contain numbers.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: db1989 on 02 December, 2013, 04:19:33 PM
Sorry, I have no time to report anything or to ask support.
I was curious to try it and five minutes ago I uninstalled it.
You might want to reconsider your attitude towards providing feedback about things if you want any of them ever to get any better.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 02 December, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
You might want to reconsider your attitude towards providing feedback about things if you want any of them ever to get any better.

Please apologize my attitude. I gave my feedback, but I cannot give more for something which I do not find useful and is difficult to use for me. On the other hand, this program is not free. Do you mean I shoul buy it and ask the developper what I would like?
I'm not a programmer and I know nothing about. I have been helping some programmers with translations in french.
About the bar codes, here is the image. May be it's not a bar code? Or an old code dated 2003.

(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=8dcc6ae2c5f248418d62263365893e90" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/Wdv246y.jpg)
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: db1989 on 02 December, 2013, 05:12:34 PM
I gave my feedback, but I cannot give more for something which I do not find useful and is difficult to use for me.
I totally understand, but what I meant was that your feedback is a lot more likely to be useful if it is delivered to the developer, rather than hoping he visits this unofficially affiliated site. Even just dropping an email with a link to this thread. Having said that, my final paragraph below will show that to be unnecessary in this case.

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On the other hand, this program is not free. Do you mean I shoul buy it and ask the developper what I would like?
Not at all. I presume Andre is reasonable enough to consider constructive feedback from users who have not paid. I would like to think that was at least part of the motivation for providing a free trial in the first place.

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About the bar codes, here is the image. May be it's not a bar code? Or an old code dated 2003.
The alphanumeric code is, as indicated by its inclusion of the first three letters of the name of the label, just the catalogue number issued by the label. The barcode in reality maps to some other, solely numeric string. This is an issue to take up with the record company/printer, not Andre.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 02 December, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
Thanks for the image.

@korth:
If you're communicating with Andre, maybe you can suggest that he open up the bar code restrictions, assuming this would help identify a greater number of discs?

I'm on his distro list, but haven't had the time or resources to participate, ignoring the fact that I'm completely burned out on DAE and wonder what kind of future it has as the world of digital media distribution has changed so radically over the last half-dozen years.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 02 December, 2013, 05:18:11 PM
The alphanumeric code is, as indicated by its inclusion of the first three letters of the name of the label, just the catalogue number issued by the label. The barcode in reality maps to some other, solely numeric string. This is an issue to take up with the record company/printer, not Andre.

I wondered about this, but since I am in no position to translate the bar code, I didn't feel comfortable commenting.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: pdq on 02 December, 2013, 05:21:45 PM
There are, in fact, types of barcodes that encode alphanumerics. The barcode shown is not, however, a UPC code, which are always just numeric.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Zarggg on 02 December, 2013, 06:46:43 PM
So, it can search by bar code... the bar code I have on the cd is with numbers and 3 letters. But he likes only numbers.

If you have a CD with a bar codes on the back cover that contains letters I'd love to see it.  Traditionally they only contain numbers.

Not even traditionally. When catalogers and taggers talk about "barcode," they're generally referring to the UPC-A, which is a standardized system complete with check digits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Product_Code).

However, as pdq mentioned, that isn't using UPC, so probably wouldn't show up in whatever EZAC is searching anyway.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Porcus on 03 December, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
This looks like a cash-in on the strength of Exact Audio Copy's strong reputation.


Not that there's anything wrong with that. There could be plenty of potential users who would want something simpler to set up than E(xact)AC, and if some are willing to pay to get the same thing except with less hassle ... if Wiethoff starts making money from his lengthy efforts on secure ripping it would IMO be well deserved. And from the laziness of others? Don't moralize.

It strikes me that EAC is taking a different approach than dBpoweramp, which has an easy UI in the free version as well but charges for the more secure ripping modes. Of course EAC could not choose that approach as the secure ripping is already given away.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Kohlrabi on 03 December, 2013, 03:56:29 AM
ignoring the fact that I'm completely burned out on DAE and wonder what kind of future it has as the world of digital media distribution has changed so radically over the last half-dozen years.
I have the same sentiment, with respect to the advent of Spotify and digital music distribution. Looking at my acquaintances, nobody uses dedicated ripping tools like EAC, still. The few people who still buy CDs occasionally just let iTunes/WMP handle the ripping. And there are services like Amazon AutoRip which make manual ripping completely unnecessary (for non-lossless-ripping "normal" users).

On the other hand, I consider DAE for myself a solved problem. The ripping software is not important, the two ingredients to acquire a perfect rip are error-free media in good condition, and AccurateRip.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Porcus on 03 December, 2013, 04:18:05 AM
error-free media in good condition, and AccurateRip.


As people are getting rid of their CD collections, others might take the opportunity to buy for cheap lots of music on error-prone media in doubtful condition. Though I cannot imagine secure ripping becoming less of a niche product than it has been.

As for ripping software being important or not ... the feature of cross-pressing AR verification might be.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 03 December, 2013, 05:09:40 AM
For me cross-pressing verification has been important for quite a long time. IIRC, I was doing it with EAC when CUETools was just a splitter/joiner by a dude named Moitah, TripleFlac didn't exist, and even possibly before dBpoweramp had a secure ripping mode.

The point is that it was a built-in feature with the first AR dll.  Additional software has made it easier, but wasn't exactly necessary.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Jan S. on 03 December, 2013, 07:46:09 AM
There are, in fact, types of barcodes that encode alphanumerics. The barcode shown is not, however, a UPC code, which are always just numeric.

I managed to read the barcode after some brightness/contrast manipulation. The code maps to "ave0027-2". Format: CODE_128. Type: TEXT.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 03 December, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
I managed to read the barcode after some brightness/contrast manipulation. The code maps to "ave0027-2". Format: CODE_128. Type: TEXT.


I did not understand how to. Anyway I cannot make a trial, as I have no more the program installed.

@db1989
you made me feel so selfish and stupid that I'll take the time to send an email to Andre (support_at_easyaudiocopy.de) giving the link of this discussion.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 03 December, 2013, 01:21:50 PM
I'll take the time to send an email to Andre (support_at_easyaudiocopy.de) giving the link of this discussion.

If it has to do with the bar code, there probably is no point since...
The barcode shown is not [...] a UPC code
so probably wouldn't show up in whatever EZAC is searching anyway.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: korth on 03 December, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
I received an email from Andre. He is aware of this thread but did not say if he would continue to read it.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: db1989 on 03 December, 2013, 03:46:28 PM
@db1989
you made me feel so selfish and stupid that I'll take the time to send an email to Andre (support_at_easyaudiocopy.de) giving the link of this discussion.
I’m sorry. That was never my intention. I was just mentioning why I thought letting Andre know would be constructive and not too difficult. I never meant to insult you.

Anyway, it seems that what I said about the barcode not representing the alphanumeric code was wrong, so I’m the one who’s stupid here.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: musikomaniak on 03 December, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
I did not take it as an insult!
And no...you are not stupid. Let me this privilege
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: gio300zx on 04 December, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
I just registered on this forum specifically to comment on this thread about Easy Audio Copy. I have been interested in computer audio for some years but compared to most am still inexperienced. (My audio history goes back to GL101).

I started to rip all my CDs (via WMP) to NAS. I did not know which format to use but understood to use at least a lossless codec so chose WMA lossless. My NAS then broke down (with maybe 120GB audio files) so I started all over again with new NAS. I then got 2 different network players (a TV set top box, then a couple of months ago a Marantz M-CR603) but had some files playing and some not. I could not work out why. Eventually, I worked out and Marantz support confirmed that it would only play WMA up to 320kbps and not WMA lossless. It would, however, play FLAC or WAV lossless.

So - and this brings me to the point of this post - I tested WAV ripped via WMP and it worked. Then came the step into FLAC. I knew I should try it but how? dbPoweramp? Foobar2000, jRiver? Some are players, some are rippers etc etc. I found EAC and it has very good profile from people I can see are experts - but it just looks very geeky (another way of saying for experts who know what they are doing). I do not have spare time or IQ enough to be confident with EAC. So I leave the subject. Some days later I google this thread which says the same developer of EAC has released Easy Audio Copy - I am very interested in an easy way of getting the quality I understand in theory from EAC.

I download, try and it works first time. I also (via xiph) find the way to add FLAC to WMP and that works too. So I am happy. The only thing Easy Audio Copy does not do directly is let me change the default save folder but  I will try the advanced settings thing later.

Maybe the EZAC is perhaps too unconfigurable and simplistic but I would say that it got me started when I have been too nervous to try anything else other than WMP for years. I will happily pay a reasonable sum when the free period is ended because good development should get paid for.

So for me it does exactly what I wanted and maybe it will help other users into this field by making it easy to get started.

Sorry for the length of this first post but thought it might be useful to explain why, for me anyway, Easy Audio Copy is a solution.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Porcus on 06 December, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
so chose WMA lossless.
[...]
So - and this brings me to the point of this post - I tested WAV ripped via WMP and it worked. Then came the step into FLAC. I knew I should try it but how? dbPoweramp? Foobar2000, jRiver? Some are players, some are rippers etc etc.


That last sentence ... are you talking about playback, conversion or re-ripping of what you lost (not having backed up, hmmmm?)?
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: JJZolx on 23 December, 2013, 10:05:08 PM
I'm disappointed that after more than ten years of EAC development, he knocks this thing out in a couple of months and offers it for sale. I understand that maybe the super-simplified UI makes some sense, but this software just points up how little development has gone into improving EAC over the years.

I'd gladly pay $30 for EAC if it had a finished, 2010's style user interface, actual Help, some coherent English translations and a bit more thought put into workflow. Also, knowing that there would be some effort put into enhancements and fixing bugs rather than random updates every year or two.

With a little more work, seems to me the two could have been combined into one commercial product. That is, EAC with an option (which could be enabled by default) of having this dead-simple UI, but with the ability to enable the advanced interface and tools of EAC. I'm sure they must share a significant amount of code.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: greynol on 24 December, 2013, 01:37:55 AM
While I sympathize with the spirit of that post, I'm pretty sure the new program was written in a completely different language.  When asked about those types of improvements a number of years ago, Andre basically said he would need to start from scratch, IIRC.

The reason for the program being payware was already mentioned in this thread.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: mudlord on 30 December, 2013, 08:28:58 PM
On inspection its coded in C#. Heavily obfuscated. Calls a C++ DLL which does ALL the dirty work of ripping.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: gio300zx on 31 December, 2013, 08:50:46 AM
so chose WMA lossless.
[...]
So - and this brings me to the point of this post - I tested WAV ripped via WMP and it worked. Then came the step into FLAC. I knew I should try it but how? dbPoweramp? Foobar2000, jRiver? Some are players, some are rippers etc etc.


That last sentence ... are you talking about playback, conversion or re-ripping of what you lost (not having backed up, hmmmm?)?

First step was to find a way to rip new CDs into flac (which is what I use EZAC for), I then needed to work out whether to re-rip from scratch or if some converter would work (so I tested dbPoweramp). I liked both EZAC and dbPoweramp for these purposes so I paid for both of them! And yes, you're right I should have backed them up but it was my NAS backup device (where I kept my music also so all network devices could see it) that failed. So after that, I now keep the main copy on a PC and backup to the NAS (and occasionally copy the music folder somewhere else.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: sPeziFisH on 01 January, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
Absolutely a good decision of Andre, the need and market for a soft like this is given if it's about CDs, novices will appreciate it.
Modern, attractive, simple UI, powerfull engine, better out-of-the-box-experience without messing around with zillion of options.
I often found myself answering questions of acquaintances for ripping, encoding, tagging, album art, and even though there are a lot of powerfull progs, most are not recommendable without borrow further support.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: DtroitPunk on 24 October, 2014, 07:51:57 PM
Absolutely a good decision of Andre, the need and market for a soft like this is given if it's about CDs, novices will appreciate it.
Modern, attractive, simple UI, powerfull engine, better out-of-the-box-experience without messing around with zillion of options.
I often found myself answering questions of acquaintances for ripping, encoding, tagging, album art, and even though there are a lot of powerfull progs, most are not recommendable without borrow further support.


Indeed!  I messed with EAC and was a tad overwhelmed.  I will be posting a review of Easy Audio Copy on this site in just a minute!
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: JJZolx on 24 October, 2014, 08:02:05 PM
It's a shame. I browse a half dozen different computer audio forums in addition to this one, and I've yet to see Easy Audio Copy recommended (except by me) to anyone getting into ripping their CD collections.

Exact Audio Copy was first, and that position has kept it going even up through today, even with no new development, a horrible user interface, and no marketing. Easy Audio Copy cannot do the same with no marketing and no word of mouth. Few people have ever heard of it.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: jkauff on 25 October, 2014, 12:37:18 PM
I don't think Andre will find much of a market. Not that many people rip CDs anymore, and most who do use iTunes (free) and think it does a fine job. Those who know better have either mastered the free Exact Audio Copy or long ago invested in dBpoweramp.

I'd like to see Andre make some money after all he's done for us over the years, but I'm afraid Easy Audio Copy has come on the market way too late.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: Porcus on 25 October, 2014, 02:38:30 PM
Easy Audio Copy cannot do the same with no marketing and no word of mouth. Few people have ever heard of it.


... and not too many are interested in ripping CDs anymore either.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: DtroitPunk on 25 October, 2014, 03:29:37 PM
Easy Audio Copy cannot do the same with no marketing and no word of mouth. Few people have ever heard of it.


... and not too many are interested in ripping CDs anymore either.


I found it truly sad there is so little buzz around this killer, easy to use software.  I had done a review and posted it at several sites but also found this discussion so I registered here just to share my take on it.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: mjb2006 on 25 October, 2014, 06:23:24 PM
I added an Easy Audio Copy column to the chart at http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title...n_of_CD_rippers (http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Comparison_of_CD_rippers)

This program sure leaves a big mess in %TEMP%\EasyAudioCopy... not sure if it's because I canceled the error correction that it said was gonna take 491 hours or what.
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: DtroitPunk on 26 October, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
I added an Easy Audio Copy column to the chart at http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title...n_of_CD_rippers (http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Comparison_of_CD_rippers)

This program sure leaves a big mess in %TEMP%\EasyAudioCopy... not sure if it's because I canceled the error correction that it said was gonna take 491 hours or what.


Reading the chart and comparing Easy and EAC it does seem to me they are functioning nearly identically, is that what you found?
Title: Andre Wiethoff releases Easy Audio Copy
Post by: JJZolx on 26 October, 2014, 01:32:02 PM
Reading the chart and comparing Easy and EAC it does seem to me they are functioning nearly identically, is that what you found?


At the lowest level, they probably operate the same in how they deal with drives and drive errors, but no, they don't really work the same. As I understand, Easy works a lot more like dbpoweramp - first trying burst mode with AccurateRip verification, then automatically falling back to secure mode. (Something that could/should have been implemented in EAC years ago.)