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Title: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: tigershark on 2021-06-10 00:06:19
I'm new to foobar2000 and am trying to figure out which components to install. I'd like to be able to efficiently navigate to an album or song. I'd also like to be able to view album art, lyrics, and song ratings. Which components would you recommend?

I looked up ColumnsUI, and its seems that if I install this component, then all my other components would need to be ColumnsUI-compatible. Is this correct?

Since ColumnsUI hasn't been updated in a while, would you still recommend ColumnsUI? Anyone know if it's been abandoned? Are there any alternatives that you'd recommend?
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: Fabcore on 2021-06-10 00:37:19
Are two kind of users:
_the ones that use ColumnsUI
and
_the ones that prefer the DefaultUI
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: Apesbrain on 2021-06-10 01:10:59
Since ColumnsUI hasn't been updated in a while, would you still recommend ColumnsUI? Anyone know if it's been abandoned?
Columns UI last updated in September 2020, so no.

https://yuo.be/columns-ui
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: dwmartin0906 on 2021-06-10 02:44:15
Hi.  This is just a suggestion, but you might want to try TT's excellent Georgia ReBORN theme which includes everything you need to find and play music.  It uses CUI but if you install it according to his instructions everything is set up for you automatically.  I recommend using a portable install.  Just create a folder on the desired drive, then specify portable when installing Foobar2000 and point it to your folder.  You can find everything you need to know about Georgia ReBORN at https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=121047.0

Be sure to install the required fonts as mentioned in the instructions.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: peskypesky on 2021-06-10 06:01:06
Hi.  This is just a suggestion, but you might want to try TT's excellent Georgia ReBORN theme which includes everything you need to find and play music.  It uses CUI but if you install it according to his instructions everything is set up for you automatically.  I recommend using a portable install.  Just create a folder on the desired drive, then specify portable when installing Foobar2000 and point it to your folder.  You can find everything you need to know about Georgia ReBORN at https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=121047.0

Be sure to install the required fonts as mentioned in the instructions.

Thanks!! It took me a couple of attempts to get it installed correctly...but now it's done.  :)
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: dwmartin0906 on 2021-06-10 07:43:56
I'm glad you like it.  You might want to check out kbuffington's site on the original Georgia theme for some additional info, particularly on using cd art and the image packs.  The site is https://kbuffington.github.io/Georgia/. 
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: 2tec on 2021-06-10 10:26:05
_the ones that prefer the DefaultUI

I don't prefer the DUI, however I find themes restrictive. My usage keeps evolving as Foobar has and I find the DUI is easy to extend. Most themes, not so much. I've often thought about developing my own CUI theme, but I always find it involves some compromises when compared to the DUI. Yes, the CUI is pretty, but other than that, is there really any other advantage?

So, I often wonder if CUI adopters really appreciate everything Foobar2000 can do? I guess I'm advocating for the DUI here. Maybe it's a better starting point for new users?
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: Adil on 2021-06-10 12:51:39
In my way of approaching the irreplaceable foobar2000, CUI has wonderful and visually pleasing themes for playing audio and video files (when configured for this).

However, when the focus is on file organization - which is my case - DUI is unbeatable and makes foobar2000 the best file organizer in the world. And, of course, it's also an audio and video file player (with the right components) as well.

So, I think that between CUI and DUI there must be a choice between having an attractive or functional player.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: anamorphic on 2021-06-10 12:55:23
^ Agreed... (with last two posts)

I'd also like to be able to view album art, lyrics, and song ratings. Which components would you recommend?
I assume you are the one who asked on reddit, but in case not, here is my answer over there (https://www.reddit.com/r/foobar2000/comments/nw76u9/overwhelmed_by_choices_where_do_i_start/h195dam?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3). (And for people living in the future who might browse this topic)
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: Vicas on 2021-06-10 13:04:55
DUI vs CUI in my opinion is just personal preference. Both are great.
As a long time foobar2000 user I'm still using DUI and I won't be changing that.

However, when the focus is on file organization - which is my case - DUI is unbeatable and makes foobar2000 the best file organizer in the world.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: anamorphic on 2021-06-10 14:11:11
I looked up ColumnsUI, and its seems that if I install this component, then all my other components would need to be ColumnsUI-compatible. Is this correct?

In the layout, yes. You can have anything installed, but it has to be made for CUI (or both) to be placed in the main window layout.

Interestingly you can create an entire DUI layout in a CUI or DUI pop-up window that can hide off-screen, or be shown with a button click - foo_flowin (https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=120109.0)
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: dwmartin0906 on 2021-06-10 17:58:43
This may be slightly off topic, but since anamorphic mentioned it I wanted to mention a few things about ohyeah's foo_flowin.  One benefit is that its popup windows don't impact Foobar's startup time unless you have them set to show on startup.  My startup time went from 15-20 seconds to less than 2 seconds after converting all my various tabs and panels to popup panels.

Using foo_flowin can also make themes such as Georgia and Georgia-ReBORN less restrictive.  In just a couple of minutes I added panels for Facets and MPV to Georgia-ReBORN.  If you want to use buttons to activate your popups and have no other place to add them, you can even add a popup for the DUI toolbar header.

The only minor drawback I have seen is that the popup windows are independent of the Foobar window and don't resize with it.  If minimizing Foobar to the taskbar, you need to manually close any open popup windows, although you can add a Hide All button to close all open popups.  Also, all popup windows default to 'Show at Startup' when created.  You may want to disable this in most cases.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: tigershark on 2021-06-11 05:37:04
I spent a day trying out different layouts and components and am getting close to a setup that I like. Thanks so much to everyone for the advice and recommendations!

I've applied ReplayGain to all my music. I've noticed that the volume of Foobar is lower than the volume of my browser; for example, Youtube videos are noticeably louder than Foobar music. Is there a way to have Foobar and my browser be at approximately the same volume?

I'm also using Lyric Show Panel 3 to display lyrics. Every time the song starts, LSP3 spends a few seconds searching for lyrics. This occurs even if there's a text file containing the lyrics in the same folder as the song. Is there a way to not perform this search if a lyrics file is already present?

And some songs (like instrumental music) doesn't have lyrics files. Is there a way to tell LSP3 to not perform a lyrics search in this case?
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: peskypesky on 2021-06-11 08:26:20
I've applied ReplayGain to all my music. I've noticed that the volume of Foobar is lower than the volume of my browser; for example, Youtube videos are noticeably louder than Foobar music. Is there a way to have Foobar and my browser be at approximately the same volume?

The only way I've found is to use the equalizer, and boost all frequencies.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: dwmartin0906 on 2021-06-11 10:53:46
Applying ReplayGain can decrease the volume significantly.  You could set the Source mode to none under Preferences/Playback although you would lose the benefits provided by ReplayGain .  You can also increase the Preamp volume under Preferences/Playback.  Another option is to install foo_dsp_amp which can be found at https://foobar.hyv.fi/?view=foo_dsp_amp.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: j7n on 2021-06-11 12:45:25
Obviously, reduce the volume of the web browser with a method of your choice: by the Windows 7 operating system mixer, by reducing the WaveOut volume and playing your music through ASIO, by using media.volume_scale option in Firefox clones. This will reduce intersample clipping on overdriven web audio or pumping from the Windows limiter. You need to allow sufficient headroom for ReplayGain to function well.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: Kartoffelbrei on 2021-06-11 21:54:31
Definitely install foo_wave_minibar_mod. Neat little tool that shows the waveform of the track and lets you skip to passages more effectively.
Title: Re: Using foobar2000 in 2021
Post by: tomstephens89 on 2021-06-29 10:03:28
I am very much in the DUI camp. I want the ultimate library organisation capability and the purest music playback experience possible. Heres my layout, no third party components at all.

I can browse my library, search my library, queue up songs/albums.. whatever and see album art for the selected item. I have a few tabs for different visualisations and a playlist manager. What more do you want?

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