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Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #175
1. (?) There are 2 playlist manager panels (one with 4 playlists). One with black background, one with white background. The playlist tabs is the usual DUI or CUI playlist tabs panel. I can edit the footnote to "both playlist managers panels have playlist not loaded...", but I thought it was clear enough I was just talking about one of them.

2. Use the right menu to find playlists which contain selected tracks.
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Alternatively, is it possible to search within a playlist, so I can find the track I want to remove without re-sorting the playlist?
Then to search within a playlis, load it and use one of the CUI or DUI tools, that's outside the scope of the manager if you think about it. There is no need to add additional layers of complexity when you have tons of tools to look for tracks on loaded playlists. There are multiple tools out there to search within playlists. In CUI there is a 'Playlist search'. I suppose default UI is the same.
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Once you select the track on the popup window, it's selected on the playlist too. After removing the track, just save again the playlist. Done.
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None of my efforts (involving unlocking then relocking the playlist) have managed to achieve that. Is it possible?
As you see, your method was overly complicated. There is no need at all to do sorting and undo.

Anyway in the case you ever need to 'compare 2 playlists' and make intersections, unions or differences of them... Playlist Tools (one of my other scripts) is the tool -pun intended- you need. In this case you could intersect the playlists without 1 track against the original one, giving as result the original sorting with the track not being in both removed. But all this is just for your info, there is no need at all for the things you wanna do.

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #176
Re: 2.

Wow. It's totally built in. Ctrl+F brigs up Playlist Search, as you show in your gif. Thanks. And also, ReFacets has a filter to change from Library to Filters.

I thought it might be a feature of your Playlist Manager but now I totally see why it's not. You're adding needed (and more) stuff that's missing from Foobar2000.

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #177
1. (?) There are 2 playlist manager panels (one with 4 playlists). One with black background, one with white background. The playlist tabs is the usual DUI or CUI playlist tabs panel.
Sorry, I'm not getting this at all.

What is "playlist tabs"?

What's the difference between the two panels (apart from their colour)?

I just don't know what I'm looking at at all. I only have this one


Which one is that? What do you call it?

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #178
Ehm... I think you are a bit lost XD you are asking me things from the native Foobar UI, playlist tabs have nothing to do with the playlist manager. Is a default UI panel or Columns UI panel.

Why would you have 2 panels if you only add one? XD You can add as many panels as you want, that's your decision. That's a pretty standard Spider Monkey feature. You can add multiple SMP panels to your layout and load there whatever you want.
You are expecting to see things in your installation exactly like the pdf which makes no sense. The PDF show possible examples, not necessarily your actual installation. You can add 40 playlist managers if you want, but you can not expect to have 40 panels just because you installed one in one panel.

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #179
I'm really not expecting anything. XD
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I just didn't know what I was looking at.
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I thought your image was comparing the two panels (light and dark). But it's comparing the 4 playlists at the top with the light panel. I didn't realise that they were playlists in the tabs at the top, lol. I thought the arrow was pointing at something called External, which I didn't understand. I'm not criticising your help documents at all. They're amazing and it's so generous of you. I'm just describing what I experienced. It's very hard reading manuals when you don't have the basic understanding that you probably, unavoidably, take for granted. Although this was particularly dim of me because I now see that there's the famous Library Viewer Selection and even a New Playlist. I just got confused by the plethora of tabs like Panel Stack Splitter etc. Sorry!

Thanks so much. I've finally got what I'm looking at. And I'm really grateful for you putting up with me and sparing me your time.

One thing: I still don't know what that panel on the left is (the dark one)? It's titled "Playlists: _" while the other one (the one I have) is titled "Playlists: playlist_manager".


Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #180
I'm really not expecting anything. XD
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I just didn't know what I was looking at.
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I thought your image was comparing the two panels (light and dark). But it's comparing the 4 playlists at the top with the light panel. I didn't realise that they were playlists in the tabs at the top, lol. I thought the arrow was pointing at something called External, which I didn't understand. I'm not criticising your help documents at all. They're amazing and it's so generous of you. I'm just describing what I experienced. It's very hard reading manuals when you don't have the basic understanding that you probably, unavoidably, take for granted. Although this was particularly dim of me because I now see that there's the famous Library Viewer Selection and even a New Playlist. I just got confused by the plethora of tabs like Panel Stack Splitter etc. Sorry!

Thanks so much. I've finally got what I'm looking at. And I'm really grateful for you putting up with me and sparing me your time.

One thing: I still don't know what that panel on the left is (the dark one)? It's titled "Playlists: _" while the other one (the one I have) is titled "Playlists: playlist_manager".


No hard feelings, as said, if you find something not clear enough then the documentation is not working. It's mean to help others, not to be read by me :)

So I will revise it tomorrow to make it more clear.

About your last question, you are missing the panel is named the same than the actual tracked folder ;) so if you set your playlist manager to track a folder named "Netflix", the title will say "Playlist: Neflix". This can be easily checked on the header tooltip. It just happens that the default folder is named playlist_manager in all installations!
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Just checked and this is not clearly mentioned on the UI section of the manual, so will add it tomorrow.


Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #182
Ah! So I can have two folders with different sets of playlists in them. Excellent.

I can't think of a use for it right now (?) but it's clear now. Thank you.

And I like the popup Search hint. I think I'd write: "to find items in loaded playlists" instead of "to find the items on loaded playlists"?


 

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #183
Ah! So I can have two folders with different sets of playlists in them. Excellent.

I can't think of a use for it right now (?) but it's clear now. Thank you.

And I like the popup Search hint. I think I'd write: "to find items in loaded playlists" instead of "to find the items on loaded playlists"?


Yep, that part is explained at III Features\ 9 Tracked folder and IX Advanced Tips\ 44 Multiple views / manager panels.

You may have one set of playlist using relative paths and another absolute paths (global setting per panel). Or one folder with M3U8 playlists and another one with other format (format is set per panel and applied to all playlists). Also if you just want to "categorize" playlists, and have 2 views with different lists... but that's what the category metadata is used for (and the filter buttons).

The option is there, I usually prefer to have more options than forcing one way of doing things. There are usually multiple ways for something [in all my scripts]. For ex. adding tracks to playlists can be done with keyboard shortcuts, drag n drop, the contextual menu or loading the playlists and copy/paste. Every user may find easier some way or the other.

There is a little thing many developers don't care about, which is accessibility. Windows text to speech tools  -since win 7-  read tooltips and menus, but can not read things within SMP panels. That's why I care about adding clear info on every tooltip and menu (even if there are fastest ways to do the same things).

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And I like the popup Search hint. I think I'd write: "to find items in loaded playlists" instead of "to find the items on loaded playlists"?

Re: Playlist-Manager-SMP

Reply #184
When I run Playlist maintenance tools...>Duplicated items... and click Yes, the results says "Found these playlists with dead items:"

I think it's meant to say "duplicated" instead of "dead"?