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foo_browser

Reply #575 –
Quote from: wrecca on
Hmm, I can't seem to get this working, there just isn't an option under columns ui to "Insert panel > panels > Browser"
Downloaded the latest version, its showing up under Media Library, and the options are accessible, so its definitely there, *browser* playlist is created, but I can't seem to add the panels themselves.


Any ideas? :|

Same problem here. Are we the only ones with this problem??

foo_browser

Reply #576 –
Quote from: wellej on
Same problem here. Are we the only ones with this problem??
I'm guessing yes.  Did you update your columns UI to the latest version?  Also, how is it that the two posters who ask this question sign up on the same day, with a single year interval?  Is it an alternate account?  'Cause it's the kind of posting that looks like it...

foo_browser

Reply #577 –
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Quote from: wellej on
Same problem here. Are we the only ones with this problem??
I'm guessing yes.  Did you update your columns UI to the latest version?  Also, how is it that the two posters who ask this question sign up on the same day, with a single year interval?  Is it an alternate account?  'Cause it's the kind of posting that looks like it...

Lol, yeah.. That's an odd coincidence. I'm too lazy to have bothered waiting so long before creating an alternate account, though.

It's been a while since I updated columns_UI so that might be it. It usually goes 2-3 months between each time I make changes in foobar so it's not unusual that some of the components are out of date. Thanks for the suggestion.

EDIT: Yup, that did the trick!

foo_browser

Reply #578 –
I have installed foo browser, but it really doesn't works. Am I mistaking anything?
This is what appears:


Latest version of foobar, and latest version of foo browser.

foo_browser

Reply #579 –
Hello cwbowron,

I am not sure whether you are the right adress for this question or foo_uie_explorer developer :

will it possible to make foo_browser work with foo_uie_explorer in addition to foo_playlist_tree ?


Amit.

foo_browser

Reply #580 –
Quote from: Princeps on
I have installed foo browser, but it really doesn't works. Am I mistaking anything?
This is what appears:


Latest version of foobar, and latest version of foo browser.

add columns browsers under columns ui layout editor. If that doesn't work, update columnsUi.

foo_browser

Reply #581 –
Quote from: amiti on
I am not sure whether you are the right adress for this question or foo_uie_explorer developer :

will it possible to make foo_browser work with foo_uie_explorer in addition to foo_playlist_tree ?


It would have to be done in foo_uie_explorer.  foo_browser allows its contents to be modified by other plugins by using callings its context menu command "Browse...", which is how playlist tree communicates with it.
There used to be a link to my website here.
 

foo_browser

Reply #582 –
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add columns browsers under columns ui layout editor. If that doesn't work, update columnsUi.

I solved the problem...

Now my view is so:


I have one more question.
Is possible to have a winamp-like playlist?

If on winamp I double click on an album or an artist I put all the song of the album/artist in the playlist, and I play it. Even if I browse other artist/album in the library, untill I double click on them, winamp continues playing the old playlist.
In foobar with foo_browser if I browse the library when listening something, when the song ends Foobar starts playing what I am browsing.

Image to explain clearly:



Bye.

foo_browser

Reply #585 –
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Quote from: Eli on
how do you do that?
RTFFAQ.  It's a Columns UI Panel, so guess?  IN THE COLUMNSUI CONFIGURATION PAGE! WOW!


WOW! Its clear why the most popular player in the world is fb2k - the wonderful userbase support. I have previously looked in both the columsui config page and the browser config and could not see anything as straight forward as check boxes or something I needed to check or options I needed to change. Im not at home right now to work on my fb2k but I was thinking there must be something a bit more complicated -as is the nature of fb2k.

foo_browser

Reply #586 –
Quote from: Princeps on
If on winamp I double click on an album or an artist I put all the song of the album/artist in the playlist, and I play it. Even if I browse other artist/album in the library, until I double click on them, winamp continues playing the old playlist.
In foobar with foo_browser if I browse the library when listening something, when the song ends Foobar starts playing what I am browsing.

I think I have mine working they way you want, if I'm understanding you correctly.

I think the secret is to blank out the "Browser Playlist" field in the Browser config. I set my double-click action to "Edit/Send to Current Playlist and Play", which replaces the playlist when I double click. I think you would want to set it to "Edit/Add to Current Playlist" or something like that (you also might need foo_utils for these options). By blanking out the "Browser Playlist" field, the playlist isn't changed when you're just single clicking in the browser.

Hope this helps.

(I would really like to see Middle Click options in addition to the double click options, so I could middle click to add files to the playlist. Any chance of getting this added to the feature request list?)

foo_browser

Reply #589 –
Quote from: Eli on
Thank you very much for the screen shot. I dont have all of those options. The only thing I have under vertical splitter is playlist switcher, hmm...
Did you try updating ColumnsUI and foo_browser?  Tell us how it works out.

foo_browser

Reply #590 –
First: thanks for your excellent plugins! Secondly, I have two small feature requests for the browser plugin:

1) Customize default left-click action
2) Option to automatically "Browse" the currently activated playlist

The reason for this is that when combined with foo_utils, the browser could be used to rapidly locate things within large playlists by setting the left click to "Edit/Highlight in Current Playlist" and the "Browser Playlist" to blank. Having the automatic browse upon playlist change would just keep the browser panel in sync with the playlist panel much in the way that playlist_tree does. It would be the same as right clicking on a playlist and choosing browse, and then double clicking on a browser entry, but with two fifths of the clicks, and 60% more awesomeness.

In fact, I'd really prefer to use playlist tree if it could activate, create, and destroy playlists. The ability to set icons on playlists is a cool feature that the columnsui playlist switcher could really use.
They call me random_n...

foo_browser

Reply #591 –
Quote from: random.n on
1) Customize default left-click action
2) Option to automatically "Browse" the currently activated playlist


I added these to the browser feature request list.

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In fact, I'd really prefer to use playlist tree if it could activate, create, and destroy playlists. The ability to set icons on playlists is a cool feature that the columnsui playlist switcher could really use.


Why not just use playlist tree for all your playlist management and stop using the foobar2000 playlists for management?
There used to be a link to my website here.

foo_browser

Reply #592 –
Quote from: cwbowron on
Why not just use playlist tree for all your playlist management and stop using the foobar2000 playlists for management?


Playlist Tree gives you just advantages: You have more possibilities than with Album List or Autoplaylists. And for me one of the most important features: Static Folders for static playlists that are readen recursively. I just use the Foobar playlists for special playlists (Search Results from foo_uie_quicksearch,...) or as quick access for something i am going to hear more frequently in future.

foo_browser

Reply #593 –
I want to report a rather small bug in the display of panels.  The panels do not fully expand to the total width of the given panel, and there is a little space at the furthest right portion of each panel.  I can manually adjust the panels so that they fully expand to the total width of the panel, but each time I refresh the panels they go back to not fully expanding to the total width of the given panel.

foo_browser

Reply #594 –
Quote from: cwbowron on
Why not just use playlist tree for all your playlist management and stop using the foobar2000 playlists for management?


The primary reason is that the playlist tree, as far as I can figure out, only has the ability to work well with query-based (at the very least, query sorted) playlists. As great as that is, I like to sort my smaller playlists by hand (for example, playlists being sent to burninate), and as soon as you browse elsewhere with playlist tree, any manual sorting done overwritten and lost. Also, if you jump around in the tree during playback, whatever is currently playing gets wiped and started from the top of the currently displaying playlist... while I can see these being desired behaviours by some (perhaps even most!), when I really think about it, playlist tree doesn't go too well with my desired workflow. The browser, however, is close enough to feel it breathing.
They call me random_n...

foo_browser

Reply #595 –
Quote from: random.n on
Quote from: cwbowron on

Why not just use playlist tree for all your playlist management and stop using the foobar2000 playlists for management?


The primary reason is that the playlist tree, as far as I can figure out, only has the ability to work well with query-based (at the very least, query sorted) playlists. As great as that is, I like to sort my smaller playlists by hand (for example, playlists being sent to burninate), and as soon as you browse elsewhere with playlist tree, any manual sorting done overwritten and lost. Also, if you jump around in the tree during playback, whatever is currently playing gets wiped and started from the top of the currently displaying playlist... while I can see these being desired behaviours by some (perhaps even most!), when I really think about it, playlist tree doesn't go too well with my desired workflow. The browser, however, is close enough to feel it breathing.


playlist tree supports static playlists (folders) that you can build playlists by hand by dropping tracks from the playlist or from windows explorer.  I set up my playlist tree so that if i double click a node, it starts playing the tracks in the node (folder or query) and no playlists are modified if i just browse around in the tree.

If you havent checked it out, you might want to take a look at the playlist tree tutorial: http://wiki.bowron.us/index.php/Playlist_Tree_Tutorial
There used to be a link to my website here.

foo_browser

Reply #596 –
I'd seen that page before, but only in searching for some specific things. After going through the whole page though, I'm seeing now that the playlist tree isn't so much a compliment to the standard playlist viewer/switcher, but a superset of them. Instead of creating playlists and organizing them with the default columnsui panels, it can all be done in the playlist tree. The regular track viewer becomes more of a queue viewer and manager of dynamic information, and the tree becomes the primary navigator.

After spending many years with Winamp (just switched to foobar a few weeks ago) where there is usually only one way to accomplish a given task, the near unlimited configurability of foobar is something I've yet to completely wrap my head around. I think I'll stick with just the browser panels for now since I still prefer the regular columnsui playlist/track panels, but I wouldn't be surprised if I find a solid use for the playlist tree in the future.
They call me random_n...

foo_browser

Reply #597 –
@random.n

I like your idea! Especially the point that every changing in playlist view is reflected by the browser. The advantages are very clear:

- you don't have to use the context menu for browsing
- every playlist or special playlist from another plugin (foo_ui_explorer, foo_ui_quicksearch, foo_history, ...) are suddenly browsed without the need that the browser is supported by these plugins
- if you are like me you will have more than just album or single display mode for your foobar playlists and could keep these modes while browsing
- the synchronization of browser and playlist: if you add or remove something to/from playlist it is reflected by browser
- the sorting of browsed playlist isn't touched
- a very useful workflow

On the other side i am a little bit sceptical. You also anticipated some problems as you  requested the "Highlight in Playlist" feature for leftclick:

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The reason for this is that when combined with foo_utils, the browser could be used to rapidly locate things within large playlists by setting the left click to "Edit/Highlight in Current Playlist" and the "Browser Playlist" to blank


Your feature request would not just be an additional feature but would also be incompatible with the concept of browser playlist if you don't like to dispense with the filtering of playlist while selecting rows inside browser panels.

Let me explain that:
If you like that your browser selection gives back a filtered playlist and this selection is sended to browser playlist you would loose the opportunity that browser reflect changes of playlist because you aren't manipulating the source playlist but just the browser playlist. A solution could be foosions suggestion on first page of this thread
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...setting an undo point. Just call playlist_manager::playlist_undo_backup() before you modify the playlist.
The browser playlist then only would be neccesary if you browse for example a selection from playlist view or another plugin like database search - in that case the browse command would just send the selection to activated browser playlist and nothing more. All these ends in a decision for one of two possible modes of browsing that has to be made in preferences.

If someday the browser will indeed offer these two modes of browsing i really would decide for the new mode because it would be the best workflow at least for me. On the other side: I can live with the old mode.

@Chris
Isn't it an evil thing that every feature request provokes new requests and that users like to keep developers busy?      However: Thanks for your present to have a great library viewer for a great player!

foo_browser

Reply #598 –
Well, in order to maintain the actual Winamp Library/iTunes style filtering while browsing per-playlist, I think columnsui would have to support the ability to truly hide (not just backup/delete!) tracks from the playlist view while still maintaining the playlist line numbering. The reason for that would be so filtering could result in a display of lines 1,3,6,10, and playing track 3 while leaving filtering enabled would cause the next track to be #6, but disabling filtering during track 6 (ie: Selecting [All]) would cause the next track to be #7, not #4 as it would become when using a backup function.

I see that as a large amount of work for the developers, as it would require a large retooling of both columnsui and browser (and in that case, ideally quicksearch as well). The highlight in playlist idea might not be the original idea behind browser (it becomes more of a jump-to instead of show-only), but it's a significantly shorter alteration.

(and yes; oh, so evil )
They call me random_n...

foo_browser

Reply #599 –
I think I requested this feature before, but I want to make sure. It would be great if there was an option to disable populating the playlist when selecting "[All]."  It would still populate the other browser panels, but NOT the browser playlist. This would be very useful for setups with really large libraries because we could reset subpanels to show everything without having to wait for a huge playlist to load.