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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by pqyt -
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As for RMS - I just made a live comparison of readings while playing a track and it was like that:
- your component with +3 disabled showed the same values as VST TT Dynamic Range Meter and the same as VST dpMeter5 and the same as VST Span (that one with DBFS+3 set). If I  changed Span to DBFS (without +3) it showed 3 more than all the others (inluding yours which was with +3 disabled). So it seems (again judging by eye) that your RMS set to 0 shows what other show and when set to +3 it shows different values than others.

So to me (as an amateur) it seems that Peaks now are OK and RMS might be too high by 3. Or in other word: to make all those 4 meters show the same values I have to set yours to 0 (+3 disabled) and Span to DBFS+3. Other two do not have those options to change but show the same values.
@wojak, would you please download one of the test files from https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/sos-audio-test-files, preferably one with a dBFS number on the file name (e.g. 1_mono tone 1kHz -20dBFS 44k.wav or 19_Pink Noise stereo 20Hz_20kHz -23dBFS 44k.wav) and let us know what readings you get with other plugins?
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by wojak -
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I have no new arguments and you still haven't convinced me. Maybe @misio can shed some light on the situation. He/She has been pushing me in the other direction. I don't care either way. But I can't follow 2 different expert opinions at the same time.

Consider me no expert - I just judge those readings by eye/ear and in comparison to other known (established?) meters. For ex. if I measured the files (with RG) and they say they have peak (true-peak) at -0,5 and your plugin and other "similar" plugins say that it is more or less -0,5 - I'm happy. There were two previous version of this plugin that said it was 2,5 (by eye) so it was different than RG and every other player plus those files did not clip (I suppose they should with peaks at 2,5). So I reported that your peaks were to high. Now they look OK to me.

As for RMS - I just made a live comparison of readings while playing a track and it was like that:
- your component with +3 disabled showed the same values as VST TT Dynamic Range Meter and the same as VST dpMeter5 and the same as VST Span (that one with DBFS+3 set). If I  changed Span to DBFS (without +3) it showed 3 more than all the others (inluding yours which was with +3 disabled). So it seems (again judging by eye) that your RMS set to 0 shows what other show and when set to +3 it shows different values than others.

So to me (as an amateur) it seems that Peaks now are OK and RMS might be too high by 3. Or in other word: to make all those 4 meters show the same values I have to set yours to 0 (+3 disabled) and Span to DBFS+3. Other two do not have those options to change but show the same values.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by Defender -
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Have you considered the old Peakmeter was wrong?

Of course. But the value of the old Peakmeter Spectrum (easy to check in the tooltip) is exactly the same as the one from the modern Loudness Peakmeter plugin.

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Last point ... until now every version creates a hard crash to the desktop without logging when I accidentally Toggle full screen mode.
I don't care much if this will be solved, but please make it configurable not to show the Toggle Fullscreen on rightmouseclick.
No x64/x86/CUI/DUI crashes here.

I thought it would have something to do with foo_ui_hacks but that is not the case. Only thing that's probably different in my CUI/x86 is the fact I use transparency. I tested by disabling transparency on the panel that your  plugin(s) live in, but that did not help.
Disabling transparency on all panels that depend on it for a small test is just way too much work (all SMP panels and all splitters and a lot of plugins that support it have transparency enabled).
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by JesalRo -
Hello pqyt
I have detected an anomaly in the latest version. If you enable Leds in Peak Meter mode (Image1) and mark Left and Right (Image2) it does it correctly, but if you disable Left and Right (Image3) only the Left channel is displayed. In the previous version it did it correctly.
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MP3 - General / Re: Resurrecting/Preserving the Helix MP3 encoder
Last post by KevinB52379 -
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If you want me to test something, let me know, I'd be happy to try and troubleshoot for you!
@KevinB52379 A few hours ago, I sent you a private message with the Helix build to test. Do you have any feedback?


I'm sorry, I missed your message.  I tried your build and I get about 259x realtime with Foobar2000 default converter options set for thread count and thread priority.  I appreciate the effor though.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by pqyt -
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I'm foremost interested in being able to discard the old Peakmeter Spectrum. For that I prefer this tool to mimic behavior of the old plugin. Old plugin shows 3dB less than this one (even with the +3dB disabled). So please implement it the same way or just make an extra tickbox in the configuration to do enable -3dB in order to mimic the old tool.
Have you considered the old Peakmeter was wrong?

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The old plugin has tooltips that show Peak MAX and RMS max. Can you enable those as well?
I put it on the list.

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Last point ... until now every version creates a hard crash to the desktop without logging when I accidentally Toggle full screen mode.
I don't care much if this will be solved, but please make it configurable not to show the Toggle Fullscreen on rightmouseclick.
No x64/x86/CUI/DUI crashes here.
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: foo_vis_spectrum_analyzer
Last post by Defender -
Ha, disappearing bottom bar seems to be fixed in 0.7.6.1 :-)

EDIT: Tested all combinations in channel based heights displaying anything between down/upmixed 1ch to 8ch. All good in preset without legend and preset with 1 legend. Thx.