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Reply #3275
Anyone knows why custom sorting isn't working?

Foobar 1.1.1
ipod classic 160gb '09
foo_dop 0.6.8.5

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Reply #3276
iOS 4.2.1 compatibility: appears to work fine. This version of iOS appears to be a few bugs in its post-process database command list, including an obvious typo, so there is a little bit of noise in the console but this doesn't seem to have a noticeable impact.

nano 6g worked like a charm for me! I am using the latest version of foobar (1.1.1) & ipod manager (0.6.8.5)

After copying Media Monkey's iphonecalc.dll to the foobar directory, everything just worked so smoothly.

Thank you for all your efforts and hard work people!!
Great, thanks for the feedback.

Anyone knows why custom sorting isn't working?
If you just changed the remappings you then need to use the 'Update metadata' command on the tracks (from 'Load library'). Otherwise explain in more detail what you have done.
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Reply #3277

I did it. Generally I have placed "%album artist%" in Sort Artsit field. I also ticked "Allow use of sort order metadata fields from tags". I updated metadata on files. On my ipod, album in chronflow mode are still sorted by artist which makes ipod show one album a couple of time. For example, Robbie Williams - Sing When You're Singing and Robbie Williams, Kylie Minogue - Sing When You're Singing. Also tried with 'rewrite databse' but nothing's changed. Could it be that it doesn't access ipod's database?

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Reply #3278
OK - firstly, do you mean chronflow or coverflow?

Secondly, sorting in this case doesn't refer to grouping, only order. You need to use the normal remapppings, not the sort ones, to change how they are grouped.
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Reply #3279
OK - firstly, do you mean chronflow or coverflow?

Secondly, sorting in this case doesn't refer to grouping, only order. You need to use the normal remapppings, not the sort ones, to change how they are grouped.


Yes, coverflow, sorry my bad

In other words I have to place "%album artist%" into artist field in remappings. But then again it shows album artist instead of artist in now playing, so when playing a compilation every artist would be shown as various artist and album artist where should be featuring artosts. Am I following right? Or is there some string/code that would  group artists in album artists?

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Reply #3280
What I need is the ability to have sort option  for any file. Just like in Itunes when you go into the properties of a song and select sorting. Is it possible?

When I set sort option in itunes everything's fine on the ipod.

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Reply #3281
@musicmusic

It seems to be partially working correctly.

When I did a sync, the Audioscrobbler update in the Console reported that there were 66 new plays imported. However, the foobar media library only reported an increase of 53 plays.

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Reply #3282
What I need is the ability to have sort option  for any file. Just like in Itunes when you go into the properties of a song and select sorting. Is it possible?

When I set sort option in itunes everything's fine on the ipod.
The sort fields work the same way in iTunes. You can use ARTISTSORTORDER, ALBUMARTISTSORTORDER etc. on a per file basis with the 'Allow use of sort order metadata fields from tags' option enabled in prefs - but it won't help with your coverflow album grouping issue! You can consider using these remappings.

It seems to be partially working correctly.

When I did a sync, the Audioscrobbler update in the Console reported that there were 66 new plays imported. However, the foobar media library only reported an increase of 53 plays.
It will be down to one of the existing limitations e.g. original track must be in media library and can't have moved since first sync. What I can't answer is why the tracks being in the media library matters in Playback Statistics 3.x and it doesn't just use the metadata from the track on the device (well it may be due to file tag synchronisation or something).
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Reply #3283
It will be down to one of the existing limitations e.g. original track must be in media library and can't have moved since first sync.


The only reason why I pointed it out is because some of the missing play counts that I knew for definite that were missing were on files that I was confident had not been changed or modified in anyway. However, I can't see how they are any different from some of the other files in different playlists? I don't mean to drag this out (all the responses so far have been appreciated); maybe it's just my end I guess.

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Reply #3284
0.6.8.6 released, please upgrade if you are using 0.6.8.5.

The only reason why I pointed it out is because some of the missing play counts that I knew for definite that were missing were on files that I was confident had not been changed or modified in anyway. However, I can't see how they are any different from some of the other files in different playlists? I don't mean to drag this out (all the responses so far have been appreciated); maybe it's just my end I guess.
Well, I can describe the process to make things clearer:
1. iPod manager receives plays from the device.
2. iPod manager looks up original file path (and subsong) through DopDB entry.
3. This and other information is received by Playback Statistics.
4. Playback Statistics would then presumably check if the original track is currently in the media library, and only process it if so.

Now the failure analysis:

1. No problem here as they were scrobbled OK.
2. Would have succeeded if 'In DopDB' is yes in 'Manage contents'.
3. The same information is pushed to all receivers so no problem here.
4. It would not be processed if file path had changed in any way, file was from another computer etc.

Now there is no way currently to check the value of the original file path stored (other than nosing around in the dopdb file) , and it does suck somewhat that the file can't have moved or be renamed. But hopefully you will now have an understanding of where the process is breaking down.
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Reply #3285
Just tried with a smaller subset of plays (23). Audioscrobbler and Playback Stats data matches - great!

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Reply #3286
nano 6g working great!

settings:
-foobar (1.0.3)
-ipod manager (0.6.8.6)
-latest iphonecalc.dll

Many many many thanks for your support 

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Reply #3287
I'm using an iPhone 4 and I'm having trouble using the 'Synchronise...' option.

Selecting this will attempt to synchronise any checked playlists, which is fine, but in the preview window which next appears fb2k notifies me that it'll remove my iPhone's books. All the books I have on the device are listed with the Remove action next to them, and of course, I don't want to remove them.

I'm still having to use the 'Send playlists...' option instead of 'Synchronise...' for this reason.

Has anyone else come across this? Short of just removing my books, what can I do?

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Reply #3288
Can anyone answer this question. I just started using foobar, so far its great, everythings working. I have a flac library, when I add it to itunes and it converts it to m4a using aac encoder  does it go into apple loseless format? Is this possible or will I have to convert them to apple loseless before syncing?

Thank you whoever can answer this!


To convert to Apple Lossless (ALAC) on the fly during send to iPod or sync with iPod function

1. Download ffmpeg command line encoder from here: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffmpeg
2. Put ffmpeg.exe where ever you want on your hard drive.
3. In foobar, go to preferences - tools - iPod Manager
4. Go to conversion tab, check Convert audio tracks in unsupported formats, enter full path to ffmpeg.exe for encoder, enter '-y -i - -acodec alac %d' (without the quotes) in the parameters section, and enter 'm4a' for extension.  You can check the ReplayGain scan if you want to use it on your iPod.



Thank You!

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Reply #3289
I'm using an iPhone 4 and I'm having trouble using the 'Synchronise...' option.

Selecting this will attempt to synchronise any checked playlists, which is fine, but in the preview window which next appears fb2k notifies me that it'll remove my iPhone's books. All the books I have on the device are listed with the Remove action next to them, and of course, I don't want to remove them.

I'm still having to use the 'Send playlists...' option instead of 'Synchronise...' for this reason.

Has anyone else come across this? Short of just removing my books, what can I do?


I came across this problem as well.  I don't think there is a solution to the conflict.  One thing you can try is to go ahead with the sync.  I have some ebooks synced through itunes, and each time I sync with foobar it tries to remove the books but never actually does due to an error.

Another workaround if you source your books outside of the itunes store, is to download Stanza in the app store and load your ebooks (ePub among other formats) though Stanza.  I find it to be overall a MUCH better ereader app than ibooks.  Stanza is much more "configuable" than ibooks, and it's free.  I don't use ibooks anymore.

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Reply #3290
Hi, is it possible to also include the TRACKNUMBER metadata field for sorting podcasts?  Most of my podcasts only have a YYYY tag for the DATE field, tracking down a YYYY-MM-DD for all my podcasts would be quite daunting.

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Reply #3291
Great plugin, been using it on my ipod touch for awhile.

This might be a little off topic... for those who use this with an iphone how do you manage non-music files? Do you use Itunes to transfer photos/videos/apps to your computer and if so are their any issues with itunes trying to sync your music library? I'm considering an iphone 4 and was just wondering how others who use this plugin handle their non-music file types. Ideally I'd like to avoid itunes altogether.

 

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Reply #3292
I'm still having to use the 'Send playlists...' option instead of 'Synchronise...' for this reason.

Has anyone else come across this? Short of just removing my books, what can I do?
Sorry! I misread your original post. It's fixed for the next build, hopefully out in the next few days.

Hi, is it possible to also include the TRACKNUMBER metadata field for sorting podcasts?  Most of my podcasts only have a YYYY tag for the DATE field, tracking down a YYYY-MM-DD for all my podcasts would be quite daunting.
OK I'll change that for the next build, but as far as I remember iOS devices handle the sorting of podcasts themselves, so if you have one of those I don't believe there will be any  change.
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Reply #3293
OK, version 0.6.8.5 released.

For nano 6G support you need to get an updated iPhoneCalc.dll from the current version of MediaMonkey (3.2.3.1303). Copy it to your foobar2000 directory.

I need more feedback on nano 6G support so please let me know how you get on.

Thanks


I just got my first iPod ever as a gift (I am not sure if I should admit this or not here, but I have never been a fan of Apple, so I never bought one for myself, but secretly I am excited to have it!)  It is the Nano 6G and I see that is is supported, but need the iPhoneCalc.dll installed to use it.  Is there a place to get the most recent version of this without installing MediaMonkey?  I saw that there was a link to download it here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=45160&view=findpost&p=724469), but that seems to be from version 3.2.3.1300 and I don't think that works with the 6G... at least it does not for me as I get an error message that says I need iPhoneCalc.dll for my device.

As a note, I do have foobar installed as portable, so I am not sue if that is what the problem is, but I assume it should work as long as iPhoneCalc.dll is in the root foobar2000 directory.

Thanks for this, and what I think is going to be an awesome component (since I still don't really like Apple, I can avoid installing iTunes on my PC!!)



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Reply #3294
I've tested myself and it does work.

There is a little delay before the device updates the file where the info is pulled from (~2 minutes) so I'm not sure if that is interfering with your testing.

Well, when I rate a song and leave my ipod for a while (not in a background), the next synchronization is successful. But the strange thing is that itunes' database doesn't need ~2min delay to sync successfully. 


Hi Mr developer [ musicmusic? ], Shinsou,

First of all thank you very much for this component, I am now free of iTunes for music sync.. I still need iTunes to sync apps and podcasts though.  But getting this music freedom is a big boon!

I am facing the same problem that Shinsou faced but I am not able to solve it the way it worked for him.

Here is what I am using:
foobar2000 v1.1.1
iPhone 3GS iOS 4.1

I was able to setup the music sync between iPhone and fb2k using foo_dop.

I also created a metafield called RATING in fb2k and I am able to copy all my manually set ratings in fb2k to iPhone when I run iPod synchronization.

Normally I listen to music in car and I rate them there too.  So by the time I sync the phone with fb2k it is anyways more than 2 minutes since I last changed music ratings on my phone. However everytime I run sync, the ratings in fb2k overwrite the my ratings made in phone.

Also I have not once synced my iPhone with iTunes since I started using fb2k, so I don't think that iTunes is messing up with the database on iPhone.

Any help??

Thank you.

Jazzboy

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Reply #3295
I've tested myself and it does work.

There is a little delay before the device updates the file where the info is pulled from (~2 minutes) so I'm not sure if that is interfering with your testing.

Well, when I rate a song and leave my ipod for a while (not in a background), the next synchronization is successful. But the strange thing is that itunes' database doesn't need ~2min delay to sync successfully. 


Hi Mr developer [ musicmusic? ], Shinsou,

First of all thank you very much for this component, I am now free of iTunes for music sync.. I still need iTunes to sync apps and podcasts though.  But getting this music freedom is a big boon!
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Jazzboy


I would like to correct my statement.. I am not able to use iTunes to sync Apps and Podcasts after I have synced music to iPhone using fb2k.  If I try to do so, it wipes off all my music on the phone, then I need to recopy all the music from fb2k to iPhone.. it's a long process!!...

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Reply #3296
0.6.8.7 released, I've made some improvements to the progress dialogs (though let me know if I managed to break anything..)

I would like to correct my statement.. I am not able to use iTunes to sync Apps and Podcasts after I have synced music to iPhone using fb2k.  If I try to do so, it wipes off all my music on the phone, then I need to recopy all the music from fb2k to iPhone.. it's a long process!!...
Well, sounds like you didn't enable 'manually manage music and videos' in iTunes.

As for your ratings problem, you need to install and use the playback statistics component. The two minutes thing was fixed a long time ago, anyway.
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Reply #3297
I like the new dialogs, but they steal focus too often.

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Reply #3298
You are right, thanks, looking into it...
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Reply #3299
0.6.8.7 released, I've made some improvements to the progress dialogs (though let me know if I managed to break anything..)

I would like to correct my statement.. I am not able to use iTunes to sync Apps and Podcasts after I have synced music to iPhone using fb2k.  If I try to do so, it wipes off all my music on the phone, then I need to recopy all the music from fb2k to iPhone.. it's a long process!!...
Well, sounds like you didn't enable 'manually manage music and videos' in iTunes.

As for your ratings problem, you need to install and use the playback statistics component. The two minutes thing was fixed a long time ago, anyway.


@musicmusic
Thanks for the reply.

I did enable the manage music and video manually option.
As I don't use iTunes for music management, I have also emptied the music library... or do I need to keep the fb2k and iTunes library in sync?

I will try the playback stats component and update.

Thanks!