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Reply #2350 –
Sent, I think artwork is my only problem right now?

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Reply #2351 –
Thanks for that, it's definitely interesting

They've moved the artwork format info somewhere else - I have no idea where. Maybe a different SCSI inquiry command? Let me look into somethings and get back to you...

P.S. Is the root folder on the device iTunes_Control or iPod_Control?
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Reply #2352 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Thanks for that, it's definitely interesting

They've moved the artwork format info somewhere else - I have no idea where. Maybe a different SCSI inquiry command? Let me look into somethings and get back to you...

P.S. Is the root folder on the device iTunes_Control or iPod_Control?


iPod_Control

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Reply #2353 –
Just some fyi here, I just purchased a iPhone 3gs 32 gb. I synced with iTunes but had forgotten how much I hate how it hogs my system. So I decided to give this a shot.

Foo_dop seems to be just fine. I completely erased my music with itunes and re-added everything with foo_dop. Artwork and all seems fine, I just am not getting any playback statistics from the iPhone, in other words if I play a song when I re-sync foo_dop doesn't recognize it. Same goes for ratings as well. I did do a sync with iTunes with music checked as manually manage. So I just synced contacts and apps with out any noticeable problems. I will post with more info if I run into them.

Edit: It also kills my ringtones. I guess foo_dop sees them as music even though they are m4r's. It would be nice if I could leave them on the iPhone.

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Reply #2354 –
Quote from: skace on
iPod_Control
I can't see where the artwork format specs are coming from  I don't have any better ideas than USB snooping/sniffing/monitoring - but it's probably going to generate some huge logs files...

Quote from: metalboy on
Edit: It also kills my ringtones. I guess foo_dop sees them as music even though they are m4r's. It would be nice if I could leave them on the iPhone.
Don't think I have any backups with ringtones - but anyway backup of iTunes_Control\iTunes with & without the ringtones working would help me fix that. If they still show up in iTunes, copying one track with iTunes should get them back on the device.
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Reply #2355 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: skace on
iPod_Control
I can't see where the artwork format specs are coming from  I don't have any better ideas than USB snooping/sniffing/monitoring - but it's probably going to generate some huge logs files...


Would it help if I did some tests w/ iTunes 9 and some of their cover art? To generate some data?

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Reply #2356 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
but anyway backup of iTunes_Control\iTunes with & without the ringtones working would help me fix that.


I don't mean to be a newby but how do I do that? IPhone Browser is crashing with iTunes 9. I have iPhone Explorer but I don't see any options to "backup".

Edit: it will let me copy by dragging to desktop. Do you want the entire contents? Looks like a lot of data, this is a 32 gb?

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Reply #2357 –
Quote from: skace on
Would it help if I did some tests w/ iTunes 9 and some of their cover art? To generate some data?
Possibly, it would be good to look at (normally stored in the iPod_Control\Artwork folder).

Normally though the component queries the iPod for album art formats. Need to work out how to do that as it seems to be different here - USB capturing/monitoring is the best idea I have at the moment.

Only relatively sane software I came across so far is USB Monitor Pro - but it didn't actually work for me (Windows 7 here though), just gave some error when trying to capture. Don't know if the trial lets you save captures also..

Anyway I need a capture straight from device connection really (and then copying a song with iTunes), the iPod service may query the important info early on. I will have a look if I can find some other software that actually works..

Quote from: metalboy on
I don't mean to be a newby but how do I do that? IPhone Browser is crashing with iTunes 9. I have iPhone Explorer but I don't see any options to "backup".
Not sure what other software is actually working - I will make a simple backup command for next build.

Quote from: metalboy on
Edit: it will let me copy by dragging to desktop. Do you want the entire contents? Looks like a lot of data, this is a 32 gb?
Just iTunes_Control\iTunes - should just be some databases and bits in there.
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Reply #2358 –
Sorry missed that iTunes_Control\iTunes, I sent them along. Note though when I got home here I did another sync with foo_dop and it did pick up my plays and ratings I made on the drive home!! I don't know if it had to be synced with iTunes again to realize they were new plays or not. I will try to keep track.

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Reply #2359 –
iPod_Control\Artwork

There is an ArtworkDB and then files like this:

F1056_1.ithmb

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Reply #2360 –
Quote from: skace on
iPod_Control\Artwork

There is an ArtworkDB and then files like this:

F1056_1.ithmb
Looks normal.

Well we can go with this software: http://www.pcausa.com/Utilities/UsbSnoop/

Steps:
1. Uninstall any other USB monitoring software
2. Run SniffUSB.exe as admin, click through the prompts
3. Tick 'List devices not present'
4. Select the one w/ description "Apple iPod USB driver" and click Install.
5. Connect your iPod & then click refresh in the app
6. Run iTunes and copy one song over
7. Click refresh again and then Pause Log.

The log is then in your Windows dir for some reason at the listed path. It will be quite large, so compress it with something like 7-Zip and e-mail it to the address on my website.

When you are done click 'Uninstall' on the iPod entry in the SniffUSB app.
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Reply #2361 –
I had to span the zip, so you should have 2 emails from me (creating the 2nd email right this second). I hope that works!

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Reply #2362 –
Hi,

Thanks for that.

Well from a quick look the information is there in the log, which is good

I will need to have a deeper look as to how it is retrieved though, or what's happening differently...
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Reply #2363 –
Thank you for an awesome plugin.

Just one question:
As I posted a while ago, there is now the option to scrobble multiple plays of songs on the ipod, although only the last time stamp is saved on the ipod. So multiple plays can be scrobbled without having a time stamp.
Now only the song with the last time gets transfered. Just to know: Is this a thing of foo_dop or of foo_audioscrobbler?
Would be great if you could implement such a feature, if it is in your coverage... 

Thanks in advance.

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Reply #2364 –
Quote from: skace on
I had to span the zip, so you should have 2 emails from me (creating the 2nd email right this second). I hope that works!
Right, well I should now have the solution for the artwork problem

But there's still some more things going on here. Can you send me a backup of the iPod_Control\iTunes folder? Thanks.
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Reply #2365 –
Quote from: metalboy on
Sorry missed that iTunes_Control\iTunes, I sent them along. Note though when I got home here I did another sync with foo_dop and it did pick up my plays and ratings I made on the drive home!! I don't know if it had to be synced with iTunes again to realize they were new plays or not. I will try to keep track.
Was this problem only when you used 'Synchronise' and not when you use 'Send to iPod'?

The problem there would then be that they are being removed as they aren't in the sync source. Anyway I added ringtones, iTunes U, rentals, and voice memos to the types excluded from removal during a sync. So if that was the problem it should be sorted for next version.
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Reply #2366 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Was this problem only when you used 'Synchronise' and not when you use 'Send to iPod'?


Well I was using Synchronize, I haven't used Sent To before. I usually just do a sync with playlist in foobar or update re-write database. I was doing sync and playing a song and giving it a rating on the iPhone, re-sync and nothing was showing needed to be synced. I cannot repeat the issue consistently so, I am not sure what is causing it. I do know I synced with foo_dop and then synced apps in iTunes, played iPhone awhile and resynced the next day with foo_dop and it didn't show any plays. But I can understand that. Most of the time it seems to be syncing fine.

Thanks for the coming update! I will imagine I won't have a need to sync with iTunes very often and foo_dop will work just fine. I am just missing my ringtones at the moment. Not that is a great big deal or anything.

Edit: I do want to add that I have "automatically sync file tags with playback statistics" checked in the advanced options so when a song is played it will automatically need to transfer the song to the iPhone.

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Reply #2367 –
Sorry I didn't do a great job of quoting 

I was really talking about the ringtone issue. But yes sync would definitely have removed the ringtones before.

As far as the play counts go, if you open iTunes before using foo_dop iTunes will grab them so they will get missed by foo_dop. If you ever only want to merge the play counts, you can just use the 'Rewrite database' command.
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Reply #2368 –
Oh Yeah! That will work fine, 'Rewrite Database' that is. That will keep foo_dop from removing the ringtones for now. I have done that before, I just didn't make the connection till you said that.

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Reply #2369 –
You've got mail, thanks musicmusic.
 

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Reply #2370 –
Some more testing info, For some reason I have a playlist that will not work on iPhone. I created it through 'Manage Contents'. It is a date added within last 60 days. I do have date added source combo box set to the date to be the date added to media library. After a sync with iTunes the playlist shows and works fine. Once rewrite database or a sync in foo_dop the playlist is gone from the iPhone but still shows in the 'Manage Contents' area.

One other small thing. After a sync with iTunes the 'Properties' command show all the correct info. Phone number, wifi address, battery charge info and capacity. But once synced with foo_dop the only thing that shows is the capacity.

I don't want to seem down on foo_dop, by all means I love it! I don't know if anyone else is giving feeback on the usage of iPhone. It is working great for me as is!!!

Edit: spelling

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Reply #2371 –
I've put up version 0.6.5.5. Various changes for iPhone/iPod touch software 3.1 and Nano 5G. Let me know how it works on those - but also iPhone/iPod touch OS 3.0 and older devices in case of any regressions..

Quote from: skace on
You've got mail, thanks musicmusic.
Thanks 

Quote from: metalboy on
Some more testing info, For some reason I have a playlist that will not work on iPhone. I created it through 'Manage Contents'. It is a date added within last 60 days. I do have date added source combo box set to the date to be the date added to media library. After a sync with iTunes the playlist shows and works fine. Once rewrite database or a sync in foo_dop the playlist is gone from the iPhone but still shows in the 'Manage Contents' area.
Let me know if it persists with 0.6.5.5...

Quote from: metalboy on
One other small thing. After a sync with iTunes the 'Properties' command show all the correct info. Phone number, wifi address, battery charge info and capacity. But once synced with foo_dop the only thing that shows is the capacity.
Someone else thought it was to do with the device being locked. Does that sound right?
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Reply #2372 –
Hi musicmusic,
Here iTouch 3.1, if i copy a track is ok but when encoding/copy one from a lossless source i got this error:
"Error writing iTunesDB file : I/O Error: AFCFileRefOpen returned: 23 Path was: /iTunes_Control/iTunes/iTunesCDB.dop.temp"

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Reply #2373 –
Awesome! Thanks, ringtones seem fixed they are left alone during sync.

Quote from: musicmusic on
Let me know if it persists with 0.6.5.5...

Yes this seems to be fixed as well. My playlist showed at first sync.

Quote from: musicmusic on
Someone else thought it was to do with the device being locked. Does that sound right?

Not really. I can get all the info whether the phone is locked or not at first plug in. Right after any command is run in foo_dop then info (except capacity) is gone.

Just in case anyone is interested. I am syncing or rewriting database first with foo_dop. Then if a sync is need with iTunes for apps or contacts I do that. Once complete with iTunes, I rewrite database with foo_dop this sets up foo_dop to sync next time I connect with all my statistics. So basically, write with foo_dop before and after a sync with iTunes.

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Reply #2374 –
Hi
I'm using ipod nano 5G 16GB black.
I tried foo_dop 0.6.5.5.
When I send by foobar2000+foo_dop(0.6.5.5),all artwork were displayed.
but artist name was not recognized.

after start itunes, artist name was recognized.
but some artwork were missed.