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Reply #1250
I'm looking forward to this feature, because I keep adding duplicate songs accidentally.
It will come..

Actually, I have another idea but I dont know if its feasible. Maybe you could make a titleformatting variable that would tell you if the track is on the currently connected ipod. Not sure if this can actually be done, as it would need to check for songs on the fly, but it would be really helpful.
I think there would just be too many issues involved in implementing this.

Now if only you could fix the transparent artwork bug. Btw, whenever I rewrite the DB with another program, it fixes the artwork, so its definitely a database problem and not something with the image files themselves.
Can you confirm that it's still broken for a single track in latest build? I fixed the inconsistencies that seemed relevant before, the only other difference was that I was writing an extra image format that iTunes wasn't, but something rewriting the database wouldn't generally remove that anyway.
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Reply #1251
I'm using 0.5.9.3 and it's still ghosting the art. I have a feeling its caused by something really trivial and you'll be kicking yourself when you find it

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Reply #1252
Hi, musicmusic. Just writing about Touch case. Now, with new plugin release everything works just perfect! No any bugs, crashes, ghost files or anything. Files just disappear as they should.

 

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Reply #1253
I'm not sure if the most recent version was supposed to fix my problem (foo_dop no longer recognizes tracks it has previously transcoded with "Sync to ipod"), but it is still broken for me. After adding podcasts with itunes, all  files not recognized by iTunes are re-transcoded on sync-to-ipod.

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Reply #1254
I'm using 0.5.9.3 and it's still ghosting the art. I have a feeling its caused by something really trivial and you'll be kicking yourself when you find it
Oh, it's definitely something simple  Those are often the hardest to find... I'll go over everything again.

Hi, musicmusic. Just writing about Touch case. Now, with new plugin release everything works just perfect! No any bugs, crashes, ghost files or anything. Files just disappear as they should.
Nice

I'm not sure if the most recent version was supposed to fix my problem (foo_dop no longer recognizes tracks it has previously transcoded with "Sync to ipod"), but it is still broken for me. After adding podcasts with itunes, all  files not recognized by iTunes are re-transcoded on sync-to-ipod.
Well, I didn't say it was fixed, I asked you a question. Is your iTunes library full of songs or not? Can you provide a backup of iTunesDB + dopdb from the iPod:
1) first directly after transcoding
2) then directly after iTunes decides to mangle/whatever the database.

I'll check if this happens for me, but I didn't get a chance yet. It may be something simple like the database version in the database needing a bump.
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Reply #1255
0.5.9.4 experimental released:
-I changed the "Send to iPod" command to check if files already exist on the iPod (looks for exact matches)
-I changed the existing file matching method of "Send playlists to iPod" from the previous 'fuzzy' method to the exact match method
-Corrected some issues with smart playlist generation with multiple rules
-Fixed an issue that would have prevented sync working on iPod touch / iPhone correctly
-Some clean-up

Does anyone actually use "Load library and playlists"? It seems very cumbersome and I plan to remove it.
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Reply #1256
The duplicate checking doesnt seem to be working for me. I tried testing it a few times by sending files which are already on my ipod, and they get sent anyway. I checked the tags on the duplicates and theyre all identical.

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Reply #1257
0.5.9.4 experimental released:
-I changed the "Send to iPod" command to check if files already exist on the iPod (looks for exact matches)
-I changed the existing file matching method of "Send playlists to iPod" from the previous 'fuzzy' method to the exact match method
-Corrected some issues with smart playlist generation with multiple rules
-Fixed an issue that would have prevented sync working on iPod touch / iPhone correctly
-Some clean-up

Does anyone actually use "Load library and playlists"? It seems very cumbersome and I plan to remove it.


I definitely use "Load Library" but never load playlists.

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Reply #1258
Does anyone actually use "Load library and playlists"? It seems very cumbersome and I plan to remove it.

I do - how else is one supposed to actually get files OFF the iPod on another machine if it weren't for "Load library" and Foobar2000's built-in file operations?

So please don't remove this...

EDIT: Wait - you said "Load library and playlists", not "Load library"... no, can't say I've ever used it.
np: 4'33"

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Reply #1259
The duplicate checking doesnt seem to be working for me. I tried testing it a few times by sending files which are already on my ipod, and they get sent anyway. I checked the tags on the duplicates and theyre all identical.
Same filesize and modified date? (OK - these aren't accessible on the iPod touch / iPhone through foo_dop, it works with what's in the iPod database in this case.) Can you try sending a file twice (in two separate operations?). If that doesn't work then it's broken on iPod touch / iPhone.
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Reply #1261
thank you for developing this plugin. my sister is going crazy, now her ipod shuffle works with foobar ^^

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Reply #1262
Ok, if I send the same file twice in succession it detects the duplicate and skips it. Could it have something to do with the program used to add the files? I used mediamonkey to send a lot of them, so maybe it does some something that modifies the file slightly? Although I looked at the filesize and all the other properties for a duplicate file and they were exactly the same, so I cant see see why it wasnt detected. Could you maybe have an option to ignore the modified date just in case thats the problem?

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Reply #1263
Ok, if I send the same file twice in succession it detects the duplicate and skips it. Could it have something to do with the program used to add the files? I used mediamonkey to send a lot of them, so maybe it does some something that modifies the file slightly? Although I looked at the filesize and all the other properties for a duplicate file and they were exactly the same, so I cant see see why it wasnt detected. Could you maybe have an option to ignore the modified date just in case thats the problem?
If you didn't modify the files on your computer since you sent them, then it may be that Media Monkey didn't write the modified time field in the iPod database correctly. You can check the modified time in the database in iTunes, just add the respective column.

I can't not use the modified time - basing it solely on metadata falls over on tracks that are lacking in metadata. The only improvement I can realistically make is in regards to files that have been modified since they were sent: it could also check if any files in the iPod have the same source path (when they were sent) as one of the files being sent, and if so remove the old version rather than creating a duplicate. That would only work for files sent using foo_dop, though, and of course will fall over if they were moved (as well as modified) since then.

Anyway, I added a "In DopDB" column to the browse iPod view, which indicates whether there is a matching entry in foo_dop's database (i.e. it sent them).

Oh, I uploaded 0.5.9.5, it fixes a bug in .4 with sync (etc.) and recently added files.
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Reply #1264
Dumbass question of the day: Can I add tracks to a playlist ("folder") on the iPod?

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Reply #1265
Maybe you could give us the option of specifying our own duplicate-matching scheme? Like we could just provide our own titleformatting string with which the two files would be compared. That way, if matching fails, its our own fault  I, for example, would probably just use %artist%-%title%-%album%, but other people might want to include file path, comments, track length, etc. to get more specific.

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Reply #1266
Dumbass question of the day: Can I add tracks to a playlist ("folder") on the iPod?
Playlists and playlist folders are different things, the latter are only supported on iPod Classics and Nano 3Gs. Anyway, what you can do with the component is send playlists to the iPod and create smart playlists (and remove playlists of course).

Maybe you could give us the option of specifying our own duplicate-matching scheme? Like we could just provide our own titleformatting string with which the two files would be compared. That way, if matching fails, its our own fault  I, for example, would probably just use %artist%-%title%-%album%, but other people might want to include file path, comments, track length, etc. to get more specific.
I don't really think it's this simple. Take your example, for example, one may modify the lyrics on a file locally and re-send it. The updated lyrics wouldn't find their way onto the iPod. There's also lots of funky stuff that goes on with the last modified times, due to the different resolutions and formats it is stored in..

I think the current method should work OK in most cases once I add the tracking of the source path as I described before. But anyway, if the problem is MediaMonkey doing something wrong, this isn't the solution.

Can I ask for what reason you do not use sync? I just use a special playlist to deal with stuff I put on the iPod temporarily. Is it the flakiness of the connection of the component with the iPod touch? Or the component removing podcasts or smth? Anyway, if it's something I can fix I'd like to know.

BTW, is there anyone here still with a 3G or 4G iPod? If so, can you tell me if iTunes allows you to create multiple playlists with the same name?
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Reply #1267
I dont use the sync function mainly out of habit. I guess I just like knowing exactly what is going to be sent/removed and I dont totally trust any program not to screw something up. Maybe if you implemented some sort of confirmation dialog which would show a list of all the changes that would be made during a sync, I would be more inclined to use it. So its not your fault or anything, its just the way I like to manage my ipod.

As for the duplicate checking, I understand your point. I think ill just have to wean myself off of mediamonkey.

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Reply #1268
Hmm, yes now you mention it a preview wouldn't be so bad. I think I'll add that and then maybe also a quiet mode.
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Reply #1269
Hi. I've looked through the last couple of pages and haven't found a solution to my problem. Hopefully someone can help:

I just synced my library to my Ipod's, but there appears to be only one album cover... Every single song I synced uses this single album cover! I got so frustrated that I removed all the songs off the Ipod, threw away the song with that album cover in the recycle bin and resynced everything. To my horror, the same album cover appeared for every song (even though the song using that cover is no longer on the Ipod). In the coverflow, it's just hundreds of copies of that one album. I've tried sending the songs instead of syncing.. I've tried using the new test version.. I've even tried uploading just one song on my Ipod.. that evil album cover still showed up! What's going on?

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Reply #1270
Hi. I've looked through the last couple of pages and haven't found a solution to my problem. Hopefully someone can help:

I just synced my library to my Ipod's, but there appears to be only one album cover... Every single song I synced uses this single album cover! I got so frustrated that I removed all the songs off the Ipod, threw away the song with that album cover in the recycle bin and resynced everything. To my horror, the same album cover appeared for every song (even though the song using that cover is no longer on the Ipod). In the coverflow, it's just hundreds of copies of that one album. I've tried sending the songs instead of syncing.. I've tried using the new test version.. I've even tried uploading just one song on my Ipod.. that evil album cover still showed up! What's going on?


I'm not entirly sure, but I had a similar issue with my iPod. After doing some stuff on it (I think it was iTunes updates fault?) most of my albums only displayed the cover for the FIRST track, OR no tracks at all. It was frustrating, but I resolved it by using itunes to restore the ipod back to its factory settings, and then used foo_dop to send everything back. Maybe see if that works for you?
Song List: keikoniumboards.ke.funpic.org/files/songlist.html

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Reply #1271
Hi. I've looked through the last couple of pages and haven't found a solution to my problem. Hopefully someone can help:

I just synced my library to my Ipod's, but there appears to be only one album cover... Every single song I synced uses this single album cover! I got so frustrated that I removed all the songs off the Ipod, threw away the song with that album cover in the recycle bin and resynced everything. To my horror, the same album cover appeared for every song (even though the song using that cover is no longer on the Ipod). In the coverflow, it's just hundreds of copies of that one album. I've tried sending the songs instead of syncing.. I've tried using the new test version.. I've even tried uploading just one song on my Ipod.. that evil album cover still showed up! What's going on?


Was the cover embedded in the song you deleted? foo_dop could be using a folder.jpg file which you haven't deleted. If all of your mp3s are in the one folder, this could be the reason.

If an mp3 being sent to the iPod by foo_dop has both embedded art, and a folder.jpg file in the same folder, I'm not sure which one is used as the album art for that mp3?

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Reply #1272
Hey musicmusic,

I have tested out your 0.5.9.5 on my 80GB Classic, and everything seems flawless so far . I haven't synced y iPod in a while, so when I did, I had over 1000 files to get updated ! I know I didn't have that many new songs, so of course it was the metadata changing in the songs.

So my question/suggestion/request is if it would be at all possible to have a field that we could define tags to ignore when syncing the iPod? For example:

first_played;last_played;play_counter

Something like that where we seperate the tags with ;'s. If that isn't possible, I will just update my iPod more often to avoid to huge update every week haha.

Thanks and keep up the good work .
Song List: keikoniumboards.ke.funpic.org/files/songlist.html

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Reply #1273
foo_dop could be using a folder.jpg file which you haven't deleted. If all of your mp3s are in the one folder, this could be the reason.
Agreed that's the most likely reason. If you can't see it in Windows Explorer, you may need to show hidden files and protected operating system files.

So my question/suggestion/request is if it would be at all possible to have a field that we could define tags to ignore when syncing the iPod? For example:

first_played;last_played;play_counter

Something like that where we seperate the tags with ;'s. If that isn't possible, I will just update my iPod more often to avoid to huge update every week haha.
It's not really possible without some issues. So yes you could update more frequently or alternatively not update playback stats to tags.
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Reply #1274
I tried creating a smart playlist based on rating > 3 but only one song is added to it.  I wonder if this has something to do with the fact that I use foo_custominfo for storing the rating tag?