@DonP:I listed the versions of all encoders clearly in my post. See the sections "Software" and "Encoder details" close to the top.(Edit: I checked the Opus website and libopus 1.0.2, which I used, seems to be latest version.)
Jplus, yes I meant these logs. Until I see a proper ABX test that tells me you really hear quality difference
between lossless and 192 AAC
I have to remain skeptical, AAC is soo good at low bitrates.
Even = low. It was more for the ~96.
@DonP:Alright, so libopus 1.1a is probably better and more variable than 1.0.2. That seems to confirm my suspicion that 1.0.2 didn't score very well in my experiment because it's still a very young codec. I acknowledge that I wasn't using the bleeding-edge version in my measurements and that Opus would probably have scored better if I had.I prefer testing release versions only because you never know what rare errors an alpha encoder might have that happen not to show up in my limited set of test samples. It seems that you are concerned that Opus might look worse from my results than it deserves. Will I make you happier if I repeat my Opus measurements when 1.1 is ready for release?
testbatch score subtotal p 1 4/5 4/ 5 0.15625 2 5/5 9/10 0.009765625 3 5/5 14/15 0.0004577637
aoTuV Release 1 (2006/08/23) # This is the stable version. The contents are almost the same as beta4.51.
LordWarlock, I was able to hear difference between CBR 320kbps FhG and CBR 320kbps LAME on the first minute of Guns n' Roses - Don't Cry. I tested this for four straight hours but sorry I don't have any logs, you have to trust me. Go tell LAME and Fraunhofer there is something wrong with their encoders.
And? Even if you provided a log (or logs) supporting this statement, I still wouldn't have any reason to believe you (or not to believe you, if I took your side...). You could type it in manually, you could create one by comparing completely different sounds, or you could plain and simple go for a brute-force method and repeat the test until you get your desired result by pure luck.
Will I make you happier if I repeat my Opus measurements when 1.1 is ready for release?
Realizing that Opus was built for mobility, the apparent regression of Opus at higher bitrates (when compared to Vorby and AAC) is still disconcerting.