I've heard audiophiles claim time and time again that what we measure does not reflect what we hear in a listening evaluation. I think Floyd Tool is the pioneer in conducting the studies for this, but who else as in a position of authority has led research into this field? It can't be mere opinion. I feel measurements largely do correlate with subjective sound quality but I don't think *all* measurements do. Some are more relevant than others.What is your position?
Many people have worked on measuring what you hear. No perceptual coder (MP3, AAC, AC3, etc) would work if many people had not only done that, but also done a good job of it.
Your daughter is not an unmeasured outlier; she's just young.
Quote from: dhromed on 29 December, 2012, 09:27:57 AMYour daughter is not an unmeasured outlier; she's just young.Yes of course. Recall the "ring tones" that only kids in school could hear but none of the teachers could hear it. More here:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/technology/12ring.html
Correct me if I'm wrong but we hear using our brains, not our ears?
I doubt she is as well. What frequency is the cat repelling device?
Cat hearing range, however, is 45-64,000 Hz.
But frankly, audiophiles reviews and impressions still contain intrinsic value even if most of it "can't be trusted" since they are interpretations on how they "hear" which as far as I know is how everyone on this thread hears too...
Quote from: pisymbol on 30 December, 2012, 08:05:29 PMBut frankly, audiophiles reviews and impressions still contain intrinsic value even if most of it "can't be trusted" since they are interpretations on how they "hear" which as far as I know is how everyone on this thread hears too...Not really, perhaps depending somewhat on what you mean by "hear." These are often interpretations of what their expectations and beliefs create inside their heads. They very often do not "hear" the same thing if they don't know which piece of equipment they are listening to and they will "hear" what they think they are listening to even when they are actually listening to something else.
Subjectivity can still provide valuable data points (especially negative impressions).