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Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #1 –
Interface is only accessible from WinRT, for applications compiled for the Windows Store. Quick, someone design a Modern UI component for foobar2000 and include this interface.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #2 –
hell no.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #3 –
Why not? It shouldn't be too hard to implement..

If it's about your views on the OS then please, this is not the place to state your preferences. If it's a debate you want, we can have it in private because it would make the forum (and possibly you) look bad.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #4 –
Implementing this sort of functionality is not easy, especially for a native application like foobar2000. A developer must learn how to work with the new Windows Runtime (WinRT, not to be confused with "Windows RT", which is the ARM version of Windows 8) and also requires a running installation of Windows 8. Oh yeah, and it requires a multimedia keyboard, since that user interface cannot be invoked without MM volume buttons.

I'd love to look into it, but I'd need the above mentioned multimedia keyboard. I already have the Windows 8, though. Really, the thing is, to implement this, I would need to make a new User Interface module from scratch. I've never even designed a simple UI, so this would be no small task.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #5 –
Quote from: kode54 on
Interface is only accessible from WinRT, for applications compiled for the Windows Store. Quick, someone design a Modern UI component for foobar2000 and include this interface.
A Modern UI component for a desktop application? I'm not familiar with WinRT but is that even possible?

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #6 –
Sure, why not? Chrome managed to do it, and I think I heard that Firefox has done it as well.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #7 –
As far as i can remember i have read somewhere (not able to show source) that only browsers will be able to work in a hybrid mode. Each other app will either be a modern ui app or a desktop app.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #8 –
At least Chrome isn't acting as a hybrid application. It has an option to relaunch itself either as a Modern UI or desktop application. Not much is different between the two, as the Modern UI acts almost like normal full screen mode, only without the ability to have pop-up windows.

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #9 –
Interesting, thanks for the info. I wonder if it would be possible to add this functionality via a component that extends a regular foobar2000 UI component (i.e. Default UI or Columns UI). If a full-blown UI component based on WinRT is required that would indeed be a boatload of work.
 

Media Playback in Windows 8

Reply #10 –
For anyone curious:

You can program Windows Store apps in C++. You can use WRL which looks a lot like programming COM with ATL. Or you use the compiler extension C++/CX which provides some syntactic niceties so that WinRT's COM-like components look like C++ classes (and vice versa). Some of WinRT's APIs are available to desktop apps like Foobar2000. Unfortunately, the MediaControl API for the cool Windows 8 integration is indeed Windows Store-only.

Someone could create a version of Foobar 2000 to run entirely as a Windows Store app, but that may be overkill. All that really is needed is a nice, generic UPNP controller app for the Windows Store that can communicate with foo_upnp. (I just searched the Windows Store and only saw a $5 app that may be a UPNP controller but also was a DLNA swiss army knife.) Some way to pick up Album Art since I'm not sure UPNP supports that (or at least between foo_upnp and my surround receiver there never seems to be album art).

Edit to add: I'm a managed code developer so my knowledge of C++ and WRL and C++/CX is purely academic, but it does align a lot with what I remember of COM development a million years ago.

Also, I meant to link to the API documentation: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wi...diacontrol.aspx (that's where you see the unfortunate fact that it isn't available to desktop apps for who knows what reason)