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What does this CUETools log mean?
Hi all,

I have a CD that I'm worried might be a bootleg. After ripping the files, I tried verifying them with CUETools, and got this:

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[CUETools log; Date: 2012-07-24 00:46:35; Version: 2.1.2a]
[CTDB TOCID: n3RU_0UOvI7h0M_MlBoS3Jao_0Y-] found.
[ CTDBID ] Status
[8d097da7] (2/2) Accurately ripped
[AccurateRip ID: 00710fa3-0c62b252-67115129] found.
Track  [ CRC ] Status
 01 [ea4edbb2] (00/10) No match
 02 [0b34e4db] (00/10) No match
 03 [f928b3a0] (00/11) No match
 04 [35cbc6ba] (00/10) No match
 05 [2d665309] (00/10) No match
 06 [daee7caa] (00/10) No match
 07 [d2e25840] (00/10) No match
 08 [51668655] (00/10) No match
 09 [edcea3cf] (00/10) No match
 10 [3de06c8c] (00/10) No match
 11 [0c9d57bb] (00/10) No match
 12 [65e630b7] (00/10) No match
 13 [581ad882] (00/10) No match
 14 [1df65cca] (00/10) No match
 15 [46fd6ae5] (00/10) No match
 16 [6dc0df92] (00/10) No match
 17 [5abd9fbc] (00/10) No match
 18 [7ab38849] (00/10) No match
 19 [69581377] (00/10) No match
 20 [9b5e6061] (00/10) No match
 21 [dd456b1e] (00/10) No match
 22 [381f9826] (00/10) No match
 23 [c790ac52] (00/10) No match
 24 [3e08f570] (00/10) No match
 25 [401d94ee] (00/10) No match
 26 [e1204b8e] (00/10) No match
 27 [c7be90a1] (00/10) No match
 28 [a98daf1a] (00/10) No match
 29 [1d0acc6e] (00/10) No match
 30 [b208e32c] (00/10) No match
 31 [9e565ae7] (00/10) No match
 32 [37470a24] (00/10) No match
 33 [332efde8] (00/10) No match
 34 [d43a516e] (00/10) No match
 35 [1e2471d0] (00/10) No match
 36 [000697e4] (00/10) No match
 37 [52a9f2d2] (00/09) No match
 38 [79d6c111] (00/09) No match
 39 [7cab84be] (00/09) No match
 40 [fa4dcc8b] (00/10) No match
 41 [8c49be1e] (00/10) No match
Offsetted by 122:
 01 [173bdc28] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 02 [60c098a7] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 03 [0fbda46a] (09/11) Accurately ripped
 04 [2e40fe56] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 05 [01acf061] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 06 [9e47501c] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 07 [fbd9935c] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 08 [40152061] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 09 [81c600db] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 10 [12d6d0b8] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 11 [26a601e7] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 12 [85451f5b] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 13 [9b53249c] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 14 [252ca1aa] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 15 [3298331b] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 16 [ee1e0b7a] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 17 [825d24de] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 18 [e04031cd] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 19 [928d81e7] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 20 [c1cd44b5] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 21 [87d75164] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 22 [2ffdd206] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 23 [1b1aea90] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 24 [98abe70c] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 25 [7d77c6ca] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 26 [64cb2cd6] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 27 [00bf2d09] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 28 [7d483956] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 29 [4eddfe6e] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 30 [e4123ff0] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 31 [20bf5d4b] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 32 [7ce4f2ba] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 33 [f094af26] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 34 [9b0b32be] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 35 [456fae8c] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 36 [2536ef7a] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 37 [dc86d5f8] (07/09) Accurately ripped
 38 [5a7a9a2f] (07/09) Accurately ripped
 39 [b9d02874] (07/09) Accurately ripped
 40 [f94aae4b] (08/10) Accurately ripped
 41 [c17a7a44] (08/10) Accurately ripped

Track Peak [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL]
 --  97.3 [40ECEEB0] [2477539F]  
 01  32.6 [E03AE8EE] [2E5B03C2]  
 02  97.3 [EC93CE9E] [3CA7B808]  
 03  96.0 [4EE3C1AC] [87003ECF]  
 04  91.8 [EDF37994] [F71A7CF7]  
 05  80.8 [32142C4F] [9181BDF9]  
 06  92.2 [FEF363A1] [AC5D3FA8]  
 07  91.3 [B2B15BE6] [F12275F1]  
 08  56.3 [C13BCD1A] [AC2DC724]  
 09  46.9 [ED766E46] [7E66A41B]  
 10  72.5 [F16CC068] [F9826FBD]  
 11  69.4 [92076BA9] [D0046200]  
 12  63.3 [8B665D71] [64B251D1]  
 13  91.3 [61E594B8] [376BA8B9]  
 14  92.1 [F138D32C] [985C4A08]  
 15  84.1 [F4EE6160] [F6BBE54B]  
 16  70.6 [F91D346F] [377C3302]  
 17  91.1 [F711CDC9] [5C45E4B4]  
 18  91.6 [5BD83BBA] [B7F73E3B]  
 19  92.5 [67313FC0] [26A7FE2C]  
 20  69.2 [3CDAAA76] [1D51F97B]  
 21  91.4 [277E1DF0] [12BA0397]  
 22  91.7 [4F4D451F] [427EC35B]  
 23  85.5 [BE6CE282] [50BDDC13]  
 24  91.3 [2816E5A4] [15272A92]  
 25  91.5 [BDA18171] [BCE9EBF2]  
 26  94.4 [97457756] [F0FE5A45]  
 27  91.4 [44B58A87] [799A7F59]  
 28  93.7 [B23D3E33] [A1118486]  
 29  92.8 [29480C67] [B108870C]  
 30  92.1 [5FF6E998] [5ABD14C7]  
 31  92.5 [F54631F4] [DF31A597]  
 32  93.8 [2C04F6F5] [08F9A145]  
 33  86.2 [882F5B63] [B2913EA0]  
 34  91.3 [E5ADE73C] [9E84CFCB]  
 35  91.7 [8249873D] [DC6CCDDE]  
 36  91.4 [91B50521] [11F8F3EC]  
 37  91.1 [DC13F2BB] [CC7FCA37]  
 38  29.9 [77CED58D] [8D96B9BC]  
 39  91.3 [24FD0A06] [9DD46F85]  
 40  83.8 [D732222D] [AB26758D]  
 41  92.9 [69EA2636] [F3CB49E1]
I don't have much experience with these things, but it seems inconclusive. What exactly does it mean?
  • Last Edit: 24 July, 2012, 01:41:51 AM by db1989

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What does this CUETools log mean?
Reply #1
This log suggests to me that your rip is fine but your offset is incorrect.

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Reply #2
My offset is correctly configured to +6, as confirmed by many other rips and the AccurateRip drive offsets database.

Could the CD itself have such a large offset? I thought AccurateRip v2 was supposed to be able to verify pressings regardless of offset, yet it doesn't when I rip the CD with EAC.

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Reply #3
If this is a recent re-issue (or as you’re fearing, a bootleg—although it does not have to be one) then the offsets are different simply because the CDs come from different pressing plants—and the entries in the AccurateRip database all come from the “original” pressing. There is nothing to fear.

Could the CD itself have such a large offset?

Yes. There are even pressings whose offsets are different by 600+ samples.

I thought AccurateRip v2 was supposed to be able to verify pressings regardless of offset, yet it doesn't when I rip the CD with EAC.

Nope. As a matter of fact, CUETools is unable to do cross-pressing verification using ARv2 (only v1 can do that, and v1 is exactly what you’re using).
  • Last Edit: 23 July, 2012, 07:29:59 PM by Dario

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Reply #4
I ripped a few thousand CDs in the era before cross-pressing verification, and more than five percent of my CDs had everything “inaccurate” (meaning that for each of those CDs, both of the following applied: for every track, there was an AR entry which did not match, and for none of the tracks there was a matching one).

Just for illustration, the following is a foobar2000-generated AccurateRip lookup of my pressing of Frank Zappa: Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar, disc 3, which upon ripping in 2008 (without cross-pressing verification) scored Inaccurate (11, give or take a couple). Disc #1 and #2 of the same set were Accurate with the same score. This was some US music club release version. Now four years later, look at this:

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Track	[ CRC    ] Status
 01 [3162a3ed] (10/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
 02 [549d0d53] (10/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
 03 [4ac7c1c8] (10/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
 04 [f58176f1] (10/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
 05 [cfce27cd] (09/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
 06 [4572a156] (10/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #4
Offseted by -549:
 01 [680148b3] (08/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
 02 [8b09d433] (08/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
 03 [106e1eef] (08/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
 04 [62f9e1d4] (08/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
 05 [af30b0ae] (08/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
 06 [3322907c] (08/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #5
Offseted by -520:
 01 [66ef2550] (12/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
 02 [ae2f68b3] (12/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
 03 [7f17489f] (12/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
 04 [5f2ce1fa] (12/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
 05 [661abc1b] (12/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
 06 [882bc0a5] (10/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #3
Offseted by -233:
 01 [101c626d] (06/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
 02 [d456f34a] (06/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
 03 [92669407] (06/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
 04 [9e684660] (06/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
 05 [32895c52] (06/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
 06 [de748dfa] (06/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #6
Offseted by 78:
 01 [e1a6c392] (03/125) Partial match to pressing(s) #7
 02 [2a85a005] (03/125) Partial match to pressing(s) #7
 03 [bbbba805] (02/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #7
 04 [6acb927f] (03/126) Partial match to pressing(s) #7
 05 [4933c359] (02/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #8
 06 [61b799cb] (02/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #8
Offseted by 144:
 01 [ceac40de] (46/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
 02 [c612cc63] (46/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
 03 [89a8255e] (47/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
 04 [226110b3] (47/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
 05 [3f39fca6] (47/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
 06 [04ba6f52] (47/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1
Offseted by 667:
 01 [8249aeac] (36/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2
 02 [239bcc0d] (36/125) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2
 03 [add7f818] (36/127) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2
 04 [f677b4f3] (36/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2
 05 [7704225b] (35/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2
 06 [1dde1af7] (36/126) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #2

Track [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL]
 01 [8B8445BE] [3C99E0EC]
 02 [BD638F2D] [6E1CBA7B]
 03 [25E81410] [2D1E968C]
 04 [A51F083A] [41F5E7E2]
 05 [EC8F651F] [FA96A033]
 06 [AA469CA4] [98C9ED3A]

Offsets ranging -549 to +667. Actually, I have seen +2186.
  • Last Edit: 23 July, 2012, 07:46:26 PM by Porcus

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Reply #5
Thank you for your answers.

Upon closer inspection, this appears to be an unusual European release of a Japanese album, which would agree well with the different pressing plants thing.

I thought I had to use CUETools to do post-ripping AR verification. How is it done in Foobar?

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Reply #6
I thought I had to use CUETools to do post-ripping AR verification. How is it done in Foobar?

By using foo_verifier. However, it’s very lacking, especially when compared to CUETools—it only checks against the ARv1 database and for discs with HTOA or data tracks you have to load the cue sheet, which can be problematic for people who do per-track rips and don’t store cue sheets (whereas with CUETools you can just specify the length of the HTOA and/or the data track).
  • Last Edit: 23 July, 2012, 08:22:33 PM by Dario

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Reply #7
Thank you all for your help.