Quote from: zerowalker on 08 May, 2012, 04:29:41 PMIf higher at the low hz means higher bass then it´s one big difference;SThe Y-scale is in decibels — higher is louder. Most important is the region between ~90 and ~200 Hz, where you'll find the most meaningful bass information in most genres. You can see that the HD280 is slightly 'deficient' in this region, according to Headroom's measurements, whereas the the DT770, for example, has some significant emphasis. The HD280 has very reasonable bass extension, but it does not emphasize that region. The DT770 therefore will portray bass much more strongly than the HD280. The DT770 is a fair choice assuming you can stomach that much bass.Quote from: zerowalker on 08 May, 2012, 04:29:41 PMI can´t understand how high the other headphones are then, cause i have never heard this over cleary sound before.This is a psychoacoustic effect.
If higher at the low hz means higher bass then it´s one big difference;S
I can´t understand how high the other headphones are then, cause i have never heard this over cleary sound before.
Quote from: IgorC on 07 May, 2012, 08:25:20 PMEMU 0404 probably won't be suitable to drive phones with low or middle impedance. EMU cards have Zo 22 ohms and there is a rule of thumb "Zo should be less than 1/8 of Zphones". EMU cards are suitable to drive phones with impedance of 200 ohms and higher. 280pro has 64 ohms.Hi!I have EMU 1616M soundcard with HD 280 Pro headphones and I decided to ask you how an output impedance affects the sound. I can't say I don't like sound from my HD 280 Pros but I definately want to know how to make it better if I'll want to do it sometimes.Thanks for your original post;
EMU 0404 probably won't be suitable to drive phones with low or middle impedance. EMU cards have Zo 22 ohms and there is a rule of thumb "Zo should be less than 1/8 of Zphones". EMU cards are suitable to drive phones with impedance of 200 ohms and higher. 280pro has 64 ohms.
Why do audiophiles always hear an improvement, and never degradation after burn in?
Do i really need to have an Amplifier when i play on my computer?Will it really make that much a difference;O?I read about the ATH-M50 and one said he and a friend compared it to 280 after some burn in, and they immediatly noticed that the 280 lacked the Bass.
Anyone know if it´s better?
How is it for long time use?
And well the one i had before had very good sound, not over treble over anything. Good bass, and they were very comfortable, and they were closed.Maybe the hd 280 has accurate bass, but if so it´s to Clear for me, i want bass to be bass, not just one punch and very crispy clear.
(I'm responding mostly to the stuff at the beginning of the thread)From my experience, I believe the major portion of the burn-in effect is not based in the hardware.I have multiple headphones which I use (HD 215, HD 490, HD 238, HD 380, superlux HD 668, Samsung OEM earbuds). All of them took some time to get used to. I hadn't used some of those for a long time in the past (and got used to the other one/s) and had to "burn them in" again, which actually meant getting used to the different sound (from the HW point they were already played a lot).I can imagine when you're used to something which you really like, you will have hard time getting over the differences and switch to something else. My experience is that once you cross a certain price level and enter the high-end, the sound is more about opinion/individual taste than about objective measurements.
Your sound card looks good. If I were you, I would try to compare it to some other source (like a CD or DVD player) and if you don't find any problems, I would just use it as it is.
another + for DT 770 (comfort + bass), however personally i like senn 280 better.
I tried it on my Mobile Phone (Samsung, Android).And well, sounded pretty much the same as the PC, didn´t notice any real difference;O