Paragraph 1, righteous indignation. Check.Paragraph 2, Argument from having spent a lot of money. Check.Paragraph 3, "I used to be like you", with a side of concern trolling. Check.Paragraphs 4 and 5, personal anecdote with a TOS8 cherry on top. Check.Paragraph 6, "don't criticize unless you have tried it yourself". Check.Paragraph 7, argumentum ad verecundiam. Check.Paragraph 8, straw man. Check.Paragraph 9, "I look down on you." Check.Paragraph 10, irrelevancy. Check.Going for the record in fallacy density?
But if my hardware is contributing to our subjective conclusions, what can I publish that is worthwhile?
Your words have certainly contributed to more meaningful discussions. What an intellect! Latin, even. So articulate. So persuasive.
I have realized that this forum lacks a good moderator who can take action against those who are abusive (words like fraudster spring to mind).
...a quantum leap forward...
If you want somewhere that's going to cater to your sensibilities, this is the wrong place for you.
That testing really didn't take long, as it was immediately obvious to me that jplay represented a quantum leap forward in anything I had ever heard on a computer. I enlisted the help of a friend, and we did some blind tests together. Nothing scientific, we weren't measuring dbs or noise levels or anything else - we were simply listening to the music (predominantly classical, flac format, 16-bit 44k and 24-bit 96k - which is the best quality output my USB DAC can handle). In 100% of the samples we tested, we always successfully identified the jplay sound, and always found it to be the most appealing.
I infer from what you and others write about double blind tests that you believe any differences experienced while listening (subjective) can be determined by measurable results (objective) from a double blind test. I wonder if that is really true?
Suppose I listen to music sample A on day 1 using equipment X, and enjoy it very much. I can then listen again to music sample A on day 2 using equipment X, and not enjoy it at all. The only thing that has apparently changed from one listen to the next is me - [...] Now I'm sure this can't be measured in any double blind test.
What does the word double signify?
One of the things audiotrolls do is to persist in an unctuous and false display of good manners, which is normally a sign that they are in bad faith
There are plenty of fraudsters out there, and these fuckwits need to be called out on their bullshit. There is no other way to deal with purveyors of misinformation than to label them as such.
QuoteBut if my hardware is contributing to our subjective conclusions, what can I publish that is worthwhile?you are not comparing different hardware, you are comparing different software within that hardware, so that parameter is constant and of no concern.
I don't recall ever seeing language like "fuckwit" and "bullshit" in a science journal.
Quote from: Canar on 10 February, 2012, 10:41:35 PMThere are plenty of fraudsters out there, and these fuckwits need to be called out on their bullshit. There is no other way to deal with purveyors of misinformation than to label them as such.I don't recall ever seeing language like "fuckwit" and "bullshit" in a science journal.
Stick with what people actually say, not how they say it.
As someone said recently on a jplay forum: "...but hell, I'd rather just listen to music than spend my time testing."This comment speaks of an attitude to listening that is very different to what seems to prevail here.Shame on you.
Cross posting a jplay thread on the computeraudiophile forum. I finally had to say something last night.http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/...#comment-127258I used the M word.
Thanks for letting us know. I like this Diffmaker application a while now. Nice that one member there took some time and effort. Nonetheless it is a bit terrifying to read the first response to his post.
great effort.JPLAY, to me, does sound marginally more focused with a bit more presence and tighter.WAV vs FLAC, WAV always wins out for me being more focused, tighter and alive.
User mitchco spent some time testing. This looks like hard evidence, not opinion.http://www.computeraudiophile.com/blogs/JR...AY-Test-Results