Hey, I am hoping that someone has tried both and has an honest opinion. I have christmas money and wish to buy an MP3 player, I was wandering which is better, the Sansa Fuze or the Ipod Touch. I only really care about sound quality and any opinions however slight about audio quality would really help.
Hi and welcome to Hydrogenaudio.In case you haven't taken the opportunity, it is expected that all members read, understand and explicitly follow our Terms of Service. I mention this because the question you are asking falls directly under the purview of rule #8.Unless someone can demonstrate an audible difference through means acceptable by this forum, it is to be assumed that they sound identical.It is sometimes suggested that if differences are expressed only as opinions, often qualified by things like YMMV, then they are somehow acceptable and immune to TOS #8. This is absolutely not the case.
Perhaps I wasn't clear. One cannot express differences as opinions in order to get around TOS #8. To put it more succinctly, there really isn't anything that allows one to skirt TOS #8.If you wish to claim audible differences then you must provide objective evidence.
What about through a decent hi fi system? I have an £800 hifi system that I might use it on sometimes, my headphones are £80 sennheisers, would I notice a difference with these do you think? Thanks a lot for your help
What you presented there was a fascinating read that has made my decision. I am going for the fuze, it has better statistics in that document and seems to be a great player.
The Clip+ and Fuze (v2) use identical internal hardware aside from the screen. I consider the screen unlikely to change the audio, but something to keep in mind.
I don't know, I feel that making a conclusion from there that the clip+ is better in terms of audio quality in the sense of interpretation/ perception is rather valid
Acceptable means of support are double blind listening tests (ABX or ABC/HR) demonstrating that the member can discern a difference perceptually, together with a test sample to allow others to reproduce their findings. Graphs, non-blind listening tests, waveform difference comparisons, and so on, are not acceptable means of providing support.
The clip+ does suffer in terms of noise during disk access or CPU with both normal or rockbox firmwares. I have now got used to it, but the effect is still there.
Quote from: kritip on 30 December, 2011, 11:05:28 PMThe clip+ does suffer in terms of noise during disk access or CPU with both normal or rockbox firmwares. I have now got used to it, but the effect is still there.But to my knowledge only with certain hardware revisions. I haven't noticed any problem, whereas a colleague, who bought a brand new one on Amazon, hears it.
But to my knowledge only with certain hardware revisions. I haven't noticed any problem, whereas a colleague, who bought a brand new one on Amazon, hears it.
I am going to get the fuze v2 or at least this is the one I am thinking of, not the clip The fuze has line out but I have a question, what's the difference between the headphone input and the line out? To me, they both send sound from the mp3 player so I don't understand. Is the lineout a separate cable and not the usual line out (computer) size, is it a special one? Like ipods, i.e unique.Thanks,Sam.
Also, sorry, may seem simple but what is the maximum output voltage?