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MP3

  • ~100 kbps or less
    10 (2.1%)
  • ~130 kbps
    32 (6.7%)
  • ~145 kbps
    12 (2.5%)
  • ~160 kbps
    28 (5.8%)
  • ~180 kbps
    45 (9.4%)
  • ~200 kbps
    66 (13.8%)
  • ~225 kbps
    38 (7.9%)
  • ~260 kbps
    60 (12.5%)
  • 320 kbps
    62 (12.9%)
  • I don't encode to MP3
    126 (26.3%)

Total Members Voted: 520

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  • IgorC
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
It was a long time since poll like this. It will be interesting to see what bitrates people use in 2011.

Please, move this topic to the poll section.
  • Last Edit: 17 February, 2011, 01:56:21 AM by IgorC

What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #1
Ogg Vorbis, q5.0 (LancerMod SSE3).
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life.

  • Nick.C
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #2
I would rather target a quality than a specific bitrate.
lossyWAV -q X -a 4 -s h -A --feedback 2 --limit 15848| FLAC -5 -e -p -b 512 -P=4096 -S-

  • krazy
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #3
hm.. I answered ~180 for MP3 because that the average of a few albums I just selected.

But I agree with Nick, since I just use -V2.

The biggest change since the last poll I participated in is that storage is so cheap now that I really don't need to care about bitrate.

  • IgorC
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #4
The complicated thing is that if options would be target bitrate then I should mention ALL of settings like VBR/ABR/CBR and even 2-pass ABR/VBR. Plus it would make the poll unreadable with all settings.
If I go only for -Vx then it's limitation for not LAME users http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=640471

So the decision was to go as generic as possible. No settings.

BTW some quality labels are really funny like  "deaf, radio, insane.... braindead?". How about  "superman, batman, wolverine, ironman and  wonder woman" 
  • Last Edit: 17 February, 2011, 03:13:12 AM by IgorC

  • DARcode
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #5
Where's guru and the 2011 ripping/encoding general poll?
WavPack 4.80.0 -b384hx6cmv / qaac 2.59 -V 100

  • marc2003
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #6
ogg vorbis @ q5 (~160kbps). i've never bothered with listening tests (too lazy) so i had a search around and this seemed to be a popular choice of codec/setting and i just went with it.

  • dutch109
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #7
I was using Vorbis at q 4 previously but found several tracks in my own library with obvious artifacts (mainly but not only metal tracks), so I did some ABX tests and concluded that q 5 is safe.

MP3 requires too much bitrate to be transparent, so I'm not using it anymore.
  • Last Edit: 17 February, 2011, 09:30:10 AM by dutch109
Vorbis -q2/5 (Android/PC) & WavPack -hhx6m
https://playnoise.com/

  • zver
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #8
I was encoding @mpc-q5 till 2006,switched to oggV till 2009 @q5,and 2010 i just go lossless couse hd are so cheap

What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #9
I use LAME V6 for the portable as well as AAC at about 128.
On the desktop I use LAME V0 and have a FLAC/TAK collection

  • guruboolez
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #10
AAC (Nero or QuickTime) at VBR around 130 kbps.
Quality is really strong to my taste and for portable use. There are some minor annoyance from time to time, but I easily forgive them. I have everything in lossless formats at home.

(thanks for this poll too)

  • yourlord
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Reply #11
I rip only to FLAC so bitrate is pointless to argue about there.

When I'm transferring to a DAP, I transcode to ogg vorbis at -q2 (~96Kbps)

If I'm transferring to a DAP that doesn't support ogg vorbis (of which I own none), then I transcode to mp3 using lame -V2 (~196Kbps)..

To me vorbis loses most annoying artifacts at -q2 (~96Kbps), and becomes transparent at -q5 (~160Kbps).
To me mp3 loses most annoying artifacts at -V2 (~196Kbps), and becomes transparent at -V0 (~256Kbps).

  • B7k
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Reply #12
aoTuV Beta6.02 @ q5 still sound transparent in my own opinion for the given bit rate and file size.

  • Zarggg
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #13
I use NeroEnc -q 0.45 when I need lossy files, which has a bit of a range depending on the audio.

  • _Raziel-BG
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Reply #14
Vorbis @ q6 here.

  • Destroid
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Reply #15
Non-losslessly speaking, still using Musepack --standard here, SV7 due to slow adoption of SV8 decoders (W*cough*nAmp).

Why Musepack: still appears have the fastest decode speed of lossy formats according to my tests using foo_bench.dll; psy-model/VBR appears to perform well (mpcbits.exe showed bitrates at --standard between 3kbps to over 1000kbps); APE tags; and the comfort of using a format less known for artist exploitation (translation = screw the leechers  ).
"Something bothering you, Mister Spock?"

What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #16
In terms of lossless, I use FLAC so bitrates are, as said "pointless

In terms of lossy, I still use the ancient MP3. And even though most people (here) are using VBR, I'm still using CBR, 320kbps though small quantities of my library are encoded in LAME VBR V0 and V2
sin(α) = v sound/v object = Mach No.

  • AllanP
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Reply #17
I have start to encode in Nero AAC q 0.45 (~150 kbps) after I started to hear differences between Lossless (ALAC) and AAC 128

One good song where I really can hear difference is Red Hot Chili Peppers - Californication, in the AAC 128 encode there is sounds that is missing, but in q 0.45 it is (for me) fully transparent.

Code: [Select]
foo_abx 1.3.4 report
foobar2000 v1.1.2
2011/03/05 20:37:23

File A: C:\Red Hot Chili Peppers\Californication\06 Californication.m4a
File B: C:\Red Hot Chili Peppers\06 Californication.m4a

20:37:23 : Test started.
20:37:56 : 01/01  50.0%
20:38:31 : 02/02  25.0%
20:39:21 : 03/03  12.5%
20:40:02 : 04/04  6.3%
20:40:40 : 04/05  18.8%
20:41:22 : 05/06  10.9%
20:42:06 : 06/07  6.3%
20:43:09 : 07/08  3.5%
20:43:35 : 08/09  2.0%
20:44:17 : 09/10  1.1%
20:44:45 : 10/11  0.6%
20:45:41 : 11/12  0.3%
20:46:04 : 12/13  0.2%
20:46:25 : 13/14  0.1%
20:46:54 : 14/15  0.0%
20:47:09 : 15/16  0.0%
20:47:39 : 16/17  0.0%
20:47:57 : 17/18  0.0%
20:48:27 : 18/19  0.0%
20:48:45 : 19/20  0.0%
20:49:18 : 20/21  0.0%
20:49:32 : 21/22  0.0%
20:49:54 : 22/23  0.0%
20:50:12 : 23/24  0.0%
20:50:35 : 24/25  0.0%
20:51:07 : 25/26  0.0%
20:51:16 : Test finished.

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Total: 25/26 (0.0%)
  • Last Edit: 05 March, 2011, 01:04:02 PM by greynol
256 kbps Apple AAC bought iTunes music

  • antman
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Reply #18
Lame V3 (Voted ~180 kbps).

I used V5 for the longest.  But even phones today come with 16GB standard.  It's not such a big deal anymore.  My library grew a couple of gigs.  *shrug*

  • kode54
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #19
I use FLAC or WavPack for ripping, but if I need lossy, I'll use LAME V2. If I need really lossy, I'll use Nero AAC -q 0.3.

  • Yaztromo
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What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #20
Since large storage is cheap I just rip to Wavpack with switch -hx.

For my Rockboxed portable I use lame 3.98.4 -V4

What bitrate do you use? (2011)
Reply #21
256 kbps AAC at home, 128 kbps AAC for my iPhone and iPad, 64 kbps mono MP3 for the car so it fits on one CD-R.

  • Sylph
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Reply #22
256 kbps AAC at home, 128 kbps AAC for my iPhone and iPad, 64 kbps mono MP3 for the car so it fits on one CD-R.


May I ask: so that what fits on one CD?

  • skexu
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Reply #23
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64 kbps mono MP3


okay...

For lossy neroaacenc -q0.55.. Occassionally mp3 -v0. Voted ~260/~220
  • Last Edit: 16 March, 2011, 04:59:54 PM by skexu

  • falco98
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Reply #24
My lossy compression of choice is Ogg (AuToV whichever's-latest) at q6, or ~192kbps (so i selected ~200, as the results usually shoot high of 200).  These days I've gotten my EAC set to rip straight to FLAC (compression level -6, which is the max anyone should bother using IMHO), then I make my lossy copy with oggdropxd (still q6).