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Easy CD-DA Extractor (converting lossless .FLAC, .APE, .WV into .MP3)

Hi I have a question  and need someone to tell me

I used Easy CD-DA Extractor 10.0.3 (build 1) (good program? I don't use EAC to convert music) to convert a few lossless format files (.ape .flac .wv) to mp3s

my configuration: LAME 3.97

VBR 'Quality Level 2' (is this the best mode? I used it because most of the MP3s now in the net are in this mode I hope that I used a good quality level)

Mode: Joint Stereo
Quality: Highest Quality
Samplerate: 44100Hz
Bitrate: Variable Bitrate 2
VBR Mode: New VBR
Filtering: Lowpass - Automatic (recommended) / Highpass - Automatic (recommended)
x Original

Is this the same configutration as LAME 3.97 -V2 --vbr-new in Exact Audio Copy V0.95 beta 4???

Just need some person who is very good in this kind of topics to tell me if I did everything OK

The quality of this mp3s is very important for me and space also need to know if VBR (quality level 2) is the best solution (genre: Metal )

Sorry for my english

Please anwser

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Reply #1
The latest Lame release is the 3.98.4  so i suggest to use it instead of 3.97
Any -V mode is the best performance, because it's variable bitrate.
-V2 is about  190 kbps, the highest variable mode is -V0 (230kbps), and the lowest recommended is -V6 115 kbps.
I use mp3 only for mobile devices, with -h -V5 ,about 130 kbps (-h is high profile, default). and i don't know if  --vbr-new  gives better quality.
And my personal favorite program for audio and video encodings is Dj 264 (which comes with lame 3.98.4) see this thread
good luck ^^

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Reply #2
I know what VBR is and all this things.. someone else could anwser my questions?

1. is this the best mode? V2?

2. the configuration is OK in this program (Easy CD-DA Extractor / i can't use 3.98.4 not with my version other version I cannot instal)?
Mode: Joint Stereo
Quality: Highest Quality
Samplerate: 44100Hz
Bitrate: Variable Bitrate 2
VBR Mode: New VBR
Filtering: Lowpass - Automatic (recommended) / Highpass - Automatic (recommended)
x Original

3. Is this the same configutration as "LAME 3.97 -V2 --vbr-new" in Exact Audio Copy V0.95 beta 4? There are going to be the same quality mp3s if I will use E CD-DA E  with my configuration?

Can someone anwser the question who has got this pro? Anyone plz?

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Reply #3
V2 isn't the "best" mode, it's just what most people have found will give them the best tradeoff of bitrate versus quality. V0 will give better quality, but it has a higher bitrate, so the files take up more space.

If you want to know more about LAME's settings, I recommend you read this article:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...ncoder_settings

I can't really answer any of your other questions, as I don't use Easy CD-DA Extractor.

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Reply #4
For some people V2 is the best setting considerating filesize x perceived quality, looking at the wikipage here on HA you have this image:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...ame-chart-2.png

And you have this page:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=LAME

to have a lot of details about LAME.

--vbr-new is the default setting in 3.98.x versions so is useless include this on comandline\settings, -V 2 is enough.

--cbr 320 is the best setting for someone aiming quality but increase a lot the filesize without a lot of improvements in perceived quality (except in a few cases).

Considerating the genre VBR will automatically do his job, selecting the 'right' bitrate to aim quality. If you encode any 'quieter' song the resulting bitrate will be lower than a 'metal' one.
Sorry for my bad english.

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Reply #5
I read the article, thanks

hmm... all mp3 scene releases are in this mode at the presenst  with this settings so I used it that is why I'm asking this questions
Someone using this program?

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Reply #6
Regarding ECDDAE, I can't be sure because I haven't used it, but from those settings it looks as though the answer to your question is "yes". Never look to any "scene" for recommendations, though . . .

-h is high profile, default
In actuality, -h is equivalent to -q0, whereas -q3 is default.
That said, the current VBR mode only has three actual -q settings because values from 0-3 map to the same setting, as do 4-6 and 7-9 (or similar ranges; I don't have a reference to hand).
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i don't know if  --vbr-new  gives better quality.
This option is default and thus redundant since LAME 3.98 beta. In newer development versions, it activates a (different) new mode.

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Reply #7
Exact Audio Copy V0.95 beta 4
LAME 3.97 -V2 --vbr-new
Quality : VBR/44,1/Joint-Stereo


good quality mp3 with this settings?

Easy CD-DA Extractor 10.0.3 (build 1)
Mode: Joint Stereo
Quality: Highest Quality
Samplerate: 44100Hz
Bitrate: Variable Bitrate 2
VBR Mode: New VBR
Filtering: Lowpass - Automatic (recommended) / Highpass - Automatic (recommended)
x Original


I understanded everything right a re this setting the same? right??

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Reply #8
The OP is working with Lame 3.97 where --vbr-new still wasn't enabled by default so they would have to keep that in the command line.  I think dv is right, the settings for Easy CD-DA look correct though the "highest quality" option looks like it relates to -q 0.  It might be better to just leave it as "normal" as I don't believe there are any benefits in using higher -q values with Lame 3.97 and above (though I could be mistaken).

I do have a question for them though: why Easy CD-DA if you are just going to convert files?  There are plenty of other programs out there that would be well suited for simply converting files from one format to another.

Easy CD-DA Extractor (converting lossless .FLAC, .APE, .WV into .MP3)

Reply #9
the "highest quality" option looks like it relates to -q 0.  It might be better to just leave it as "normal" as I don't believe there are any benefits in using higher -q values with Lame 3.97 and above (though I could be mistaken).
Thanks; I missed that.

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Reply #10
hmm... look higher to my post are this settings similar? exactly the  same?

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Reply #11
lame 3.97 is too old (2006)

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Reply #12
I not asking for version it doesnt matter to me im asking for settings

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Reply #13
hmm... look higher to my post are this settings similar? exactly the  same?
Look higher to the posts by kornchild2002 and I:

Regarding ECDDAE, I can't be sure because I haven't used it, but from those settings it looks as though the answer to your question is "yes". Never look to any "scene" for recommendations, though . . .
the settings for Easy CD-DA look correct . . . I do have a question for them though: why Easy CD-DA if you are just going to convert files?  There are plenty of other programs out there that would be well suited for simply converting files from one format to another.



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Reply #14
what is ths? - "Filtering: Lowpass - Automatic (recommended) / Highpass - Automatic (recommended"

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Reply #15
The links previously provided tell you what the lowpass filter option is in Lame.  Your settings look correct, you have now had two people answer that question.  Of course, you can avoid all of this by using a program better suited for converting multiple files (and not ripping audio CDs).

Easy CD-DA Extractor (converting lossless .FLAC, .APE, .WV into .MP3)

Reply #16
so lowpass and highpass should be automatic right?

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Reply #17
so lowpass and highpass should be automatic right?

Right, there is no trick.
If you want -V2 , then write: lame.exe  -V2 . The rest is optimal as default.
If you want better quality , use more kbps, or a better encoder.

Easy CD-DA Extractor (converting lossless .FLAC, .APE, .WV into .MP3)

Reply #18
vbr with joint stereo? sorry for this many newbie questions

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Reply #19
vbr with joint stereo? sorry for this many newbie questions

right, always vbr
and about the best bitrate, i think the best performance (quality vs kbps) is between 140 - 250 for lame.

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Reply #20
list - many groups rip cd/dvd releses in this lame configuration -V2 --vbr-new / 44,1 / Joint-Stereo using EAC
my only question was if I use ECD-DAE with my configuration to convert 500MB FLAC APE WV files to mp3 would give me a very good quality mp3 more less than 192kbps  I listen to music using headphones and on my hi-fi is this quality good enough? Scene rippers are using this quality

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Reply #21
I listen to music using headphones and on my hi-fi is this quality good enough?
How can anyone else tell you if a particular format and setting is transparent to you? That can only be determined by a blind listening test.

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Scene rippers are using this quality
So? They probably chose that because they heard of communities such as Hydrogenaudio, where -V2 (and its historical equivalents) have been determined to be transparent in most cases. For all you know, you might be able to use lower quality settings and save space while not hearing any difference. As above, only you have your ears.

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Reply #22
-V2 (and its historical equivalents) - you mean that this is the standard? soryy for many qestions but I don't understand everything
I don't know how to write it hmm maybe in simple language (in my polish laungage translated to english I would say)"I have a very good ear"  If something is not in good quality i hear artefacts in the background  i think that -V 2 / joint stereo / new vbr / 44,1Hz is ok I think. It's Important to me I am audiophile

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Reply #23
I listen to music using headphones and on my hi-fi is this quality good enough?

There is no answer, it's up to you.
You can try encoding at different bitrates eg. 96, 128 , 160... and look at which quality is enough for you.

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Reply #24
thanks for help  cheers