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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
XLD Version 20101115:

Introduced a new original secure ripping engine
This is a brand-new secure ripping engine employing a statistical error correction and a cache defeat. Generally it shows a better and more consistent result than the existing CDParanoia engine, especially on slightly damaged discs. At this moment it is not turned on by default, but I recommend everyone try it. Enabled by setting "Ripper Mode" option to "XLD Secure Ripper".
Here is a description of the error in the report:
Jitter error (maybe fixed)
Number of reads which caused a jitter error. The error occurs when seeking between sectors back and forward heavily - the drive fails to return the accurate sector position and returns a slightly moved position. Fixed by the program in most cases.
Retry sector count
Number of sectors which needed a retry read. The program performs a retry read when the 1st and the 2nd (verify) read results do not match (or when C2 error is detected). In case a statistically consistent result was found with the retry reads, this count is incremented. Not a problem in most cases.
Damaged sector count
Number of sectors in which the program was unable to find a statistically consistent result with the retry reads. Bad result in most cases.
Implemented a new CD ripper backed
Libcdio was used as a backend so far, but now it has been replaced with my original implementation. Many troubles like a hangup on CD-extra discs should be fixed now.
Removed a support for CDParanoia II 9.8 engine

People whom have tried this what are your opinions ?

  • rscholl
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #1
I've been using XLD for quite some time now, and I've been extremely happy. I just upgraded to the newest version with the new secure XLD ripper option. Now about every other or more CD I put in won't open. XLD says "cannot open and make sure nothing else is using it". The CD's open and play in iTunes fine. I haven't changed anything except upgrading XLD. I've ripped hundreds of my CD's without a single hiccup before this. Any suggestions on what could be causing this? Thanks.

  • Eli
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #2
I don't have a Mac, but nice to know for all those that do.

Do you plan to implement AR2?

Have you given thought to adding support for CueTools Database?

  • Pepzhez
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #3
The latest XLD update fixes the disc opening bug.

The new ripping engine appears to work fine so far, although I have yet to find a disc around here that the cdparanoia 10.2 engine can't handle. I do have a few severely damaged discs, but they are just as hopeless with the new engine as they are on cdparanoia 10.2 and EAC, for that matter. No surprise there.

I really would like to see if the new engine can securely rip a disc that cdparanoia cannot. Anyone here with a "slightly damaged" disc that has been problematic with the cdparanoia engine want to try ripping it with the new engine? I'd really like to see the results.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #4
It's been a hit and miss some discs work better as in rip properly and some still wont. Over all the new ripping engine is better.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #5
Tried the new engine on one of my slightly scratched discs with great results:

CDParanoia III 10.2:

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XLD extraction logfile from 2010-11-17 13:08:01 +0100

Various Artists / The Fifth Element

Used drive : HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH41N (revision PQ05)

Ripper mode : CDParanoia III 10.2
Disable audio cache : OK for the drive with a cache less than 2750KiB
Make use of C2 pointers : NO
Read offset correction  : 667
Max retry count : 100
Gap status   : Analyzed, Appended

AccurateRip Summary
Track 01 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 02 : OK (confidence 88)
Track 03 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 04 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 05 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 06 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 07 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 08 : OK (confidence 92)
Track 09 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 10 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 11 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 12 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 13 : NG
Track 14 : NG
Track 15 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 16 : NG
Track 17 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 18 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 19 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 20 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 21 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 22 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 23 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 24 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 25 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 26 : OK (confidence 89)
->23 track(s) accurately ripped, 3 track(s) not, 0 track(s) not found

XLD Secure Ripper:

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XLD extraction logfile from 2010-11-17 09:27:58 +0100

Various Artists / The Fifth Element

Used drive : HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH41N (revision PQ05)

Ripper mode : XLD Secure Ripper
Disable audio cache : OK for the drive with a cache less than 1375KiB
Make use of C2 pointers : NO
Read offset correction  : 667
Max retry count : 100
Gap status   : Analyzed, Appended

AccurateRip Summary
Track 01 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 02 : OK (confidence 88)
Track 03 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 04 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 05 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 06 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 07 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 08 : OK (confidence 92)
Track 09 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 10 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 11 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 12 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 13 : OK (confidence 87)
Track 14 : OK (confidence 92)
Track 15 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 16 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 17 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 18 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 19 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 20 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 21 : OK (confidence 91)
Track 22 : OK (confidence 90)
Track 23 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 24 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 25 : OK (confidence 89)
Track 26 : OK (confidence 89)
->All tracks accurately ripped.
  • Last Edit: 17 November, 2010, 01:51:03 PM by greynol

  • rscholl
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #6
The latest XLD update fixes the disc opening bug.

The new ripping engine appears to work fine so far, although I have yet to find a disc around here that the cdparanoia 10.2 engine can't handle. I do have a few severely damaged discs, but they are just as hopeless with the new engine as they are on cdparanoia 10.2 and EAC, for that matter. No surprise there.

I really would like to see if the new engine can securely rip a disc that cdparanoia cannot. Anyone here with a "slightly damaged" disc that has been problematic with the cdparanoia engine want to try ripping it with the new engine? I'd really like to see the results.


Cool. I'll update now and try it out.

-

Thanks so much for the update. Works great.
  • Last Edit: 04 September, 2011, 09:52:04 AM by db1989

  • SmashCan
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #7
I really would like to see if the new engine can securely rip a disc that cdparanoia cannot. Anyone here with a "slightly damaged" disc that has been problematic with the cdparanoia engine want to try ripping it with the new engine? I'd really like to see the results.
I am getting positive results with the new secure ripper. I just pulled out a pile of damaged CDs that I couldn't rip with either XLD or EAC and the first few ripped fine with the new engine. What is interesting is the lack of jitter errors. I use XLD mostly as a transcoder due to an excessive amount of jitter errors and its tend to hang on problem tracks.

CDParanoia III 10.2 (A few months ago) Over 500 jitter errors, but all tracks reported as accurately ripped.
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XLD extraction logfile from 2010-08-30 15:30:27 -0700

Jawbreaker / Unfun

Used drive : PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D (revision BC14)

Use cdparanoia mode    : YES (CDParanoia III 10.2 engine)
Disable audio cache    : OK for the drive with cache less than 2750KB
Make use of C2 pointers : NO
Read offset correction  : 48
Max retry count        : 100
Gap status              : Analyzed, Appended

TOC of the extracted CD
     Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
   ---------------------------------------------------------
       1  | 00:00:00 | 03:22:17 |        0    |    15166 
       2  | 03:22:17 | 02:24:48 |    15167    |    26014 
       3  | 05:46:65 | 04:07:27 |    26015    |    44566 
       4  | 09:54:17 | 02:41:03 |    44567    |    56644 
       5  | 12:35:20 | 04:00:52 |    56645    |    74696 
       6  | 16:35:72 | 04:24:23 |    74697    |    94519 
       7  | 21:00:20 | 03:27:25 |    94520    |  110069 
       8  | 24:27:45 | 03:30:42 |    110070    |  125861 
       9  | 27:58:12 | 02:52:08 |    125862    |  138769 
       10  | 30:50:20 | 03:32:22 |    138770    |  154691 
       11  | 34:22:42 | 02:53:63 |    154692    |  167729 
       12  | 37:16:30 | 03:48:70 |    167730    |  184899 
       13  | 41:05:25 | 03:28:22 |    184900    |  200521 
       14  | 44:33:47 | 03:40:48 |    200522    |  217069 
       15  | 48:14:20 | 05:50:15 |    217070    |  243334 

List of alternate offset correction values
       #  | Absolute | Relative | Confidence
   ------------------------------------------
       1  |    180  |    132  |      7   
       2  |    795  |    747  |      5   
       3  |    93  |    45  |      3   

All Tracks
   Filename : /Volumes/Media Monster/New/Jawbreaker/Unknown Year - Unfun/Jawbreaker - Unfun.flac
   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 1204D900
   CRC32 hash            : 1204D900
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : F58C30A0
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 58
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 451
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 01
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:00

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : F85A51E9
   CRC32 hash            : F85A51E9
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EAB4E62B
   AccurateRip signature  : B6704DFA
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 02
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:37

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : C1F9C605
   CRC32 hash            : C1F9C605
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : E8B050BC
   AccurateRip signature  : 9526446E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 03
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : D58060D3
   CRC32 hash            : D58060D3
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 757CBA94
   AccurateRip signature  : BAB054A3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 04
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:17

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 23E45EEE
   CRC32 hash            : 23E45EEE
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 1B92789B
   AccurateRip signature  : 40C524F3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 05
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:03

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 126211D8
   CRC32 hash            : 126211D8
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 6BE43674
   AccurateRip signature  : 4C36926F
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 06
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:10

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : BCCA2C44
   CRC32 hash            : BCCA2C44
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 79181FB4
   AccurateRip signature  : 8B6F92AD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 07
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:30

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 532D650D
   CRC32 hash            : 532D650D
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : C12AB7BB
   AccurateRip signature  : 6E6701DD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 08
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:25

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 58D769FD
   CRC32 hash            : 58D769FD
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 8B6CBE42
   AccurateRip signature  : 7446925B
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 09
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:55

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 22AD25AB
   CRC32 hash            : 22AD25AB
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : A3EDB300
   AccurateRip signature  : 5383BCE2
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 10
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:48

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 401F7148
   CRC32 hash            : 401F7148
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 46F9A8D4
   AccurateRip signature  : 7A9BF15A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 11
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:20

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 3E234398
   CRC32 hash            : 3E234398
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 7ABDE59F
   AccurateRip signature  : A0BC4D8E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 12
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:08

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 9024EBB6
   CRC32 hash            : 9024EBB6
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : B5B5FE02
   AccurateRip signature  : B8737D1D
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 13
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : 7DE5BCB5
   CRC32 hash            : 7DE5BCB5
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 3ED992ED
   AccurateRip signature  : AF94333A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 14
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:25

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : C1741825
   CRC32 hash            : C1741825
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : C5E99F8B
   AccurateRip signature  : C2A34BEC
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 15
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:55

   CRC32 hash (test run)  : BD7E0B69
   CRC32 hash            : BD7E0B69
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 9A2F8E5A
   AccurateRip signature  : AE52B1E7
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 58
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 451
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

No errors occurred

End of status report
 

CDParanoia III 10.2 (A few days ago) 2 jitter errors, unable to obtain an accurate rip of track 14
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XLD extraction logfile from 2010-11-20 17:42:01 -0800

Jawbreaker / Unfun

Used drive : PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D (revision BC14)

Ripper mode            : CDParanoia III 10.2
Disable audio cache    : OK for the drive with a cache less than 2750KiB
Make use of C2 pointers : NO
Read offset correction  : 48
Max retry count        : 100
Gap status              : Analyzed, Appended

TOC of the extracted CD
     Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
   ---------------------------------------------------------
       1  | 00:00:00 | 03:22:17 |        0    |    15166 
       2  | 03:22:17 | 02:24:48 |    15167    |    26014 
       3  | 05:46:65 | 04:07:27 |    26015    |    44566 
       4  | 09:54:17 | 02:41:03 |    44567    |    56644 
       5  | 12:35:20 | 04:00:52 |    56645    |    74696 
       6  | 16:35:72 | 04:24:23 |    74697    |    94519 
       7  | 21:00:20 | 03:27:25 |    94520    |  110069 
       8  | 24:27:45 | 03:30:42 |    110070    |  125861 
       9  | 27:58:12 | 02:52:08 |    125862    |  138769 
       10  | 30:50:20 | 03:32:22 |    138770    |  154691 
       11  | 34:22:42 | 02:53:63 |    154692    |  167729 
       12  | 37:16:30 | 03:48:70 |    167730    |  184899 
       13  | 41:05:25 | 03:28:22 |    184900    |  200521 
       14  | 44:33:47 | 03:40:48 |    200522    |  217069 
       15  | 48:14:20 | 05:50:15 |    217070    |  243334 

List of alternate offset correction values
       #  | Absolute | Relative | Confidence
   ------------------------------------------
       1  |    180  |    132  |      9   
       2  |    795  |    747  |      6   
       3  |    93  |    45  |      3   

AccurateRip Summary
   Track 01 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 02 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 03 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 04 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 05 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 06 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 07 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 08 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 09 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 10 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 11 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 12 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 13 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 14 : NG
   Track 15 : OK (confidence 3)
       ->14 track(s) accurately ripped, 1 track(s) not, 0 track(s) not found

All Tracks
   Filename : /Volumes/Media Monster/New/Jawbreaker/Unfun/Jawbreaker -  Unfun.flac
   CRC32 hash            : E1907C9D
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 7D759F20
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 2
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 01
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:00

   CRC32 hash            : F85A51E9
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EAB4E62B
   AccurateRip signature  : B6704DFA
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 02
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:37

   CRC32 hash            : C1F9C605
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : E8B050BC
   AccurateRip signature  : 9526446E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 03
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash            : D58060D3
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 757CBA94
   AccurateRip signature  : BAB054A3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 04
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:17

   CRC32 hash            : 23E45EEE
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 1B92789B
   AccurateRip signature  : 40C524F3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 05
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:03

   CRC32 hash            : 126211D8
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 6BE43674
   AccurateRip signature  : 4C36926F
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 06
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:10

   CRC32 hash            : BCCA2C44
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 79181FB4
   AccurateRip signature  : 8B6F92AD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 07
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:30

   CRC32 hash            : 532D650D
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : C12AB7BB
   AccurateRip signature  : 6E6701DD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 08
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:25

   CRC32 hash            : 58D769FD
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 8B6CBE42
   AccurateRip signature  : 7446925B
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 09
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:55

   CRC32 hash            : 22AD25AB
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : A3EDB300
   AccurateRip signature  : 5383BCE2
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 10
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:48

   CRC32 hash            : 401F7148
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 46F9A8D4
   AccurateRip signature  : 7A9BF15A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 11
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:20

   CRC32 hash            : 3E234398
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 7ABDE59F
   AccurateRip signature  : A0BC4D8E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 12
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:08

   CRC32 hash            : 9024EBB6
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : B5B5FE02
   AccurateRip signature  : B8737D1D
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 13
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash            : 7DE5BCB5
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 3ED992ED
   AccurateRip signature  : AF94333A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 14
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:25

   CRC32 hash            : 9743F234
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 47380ABC
   AccurateRip signature  : 70154BEC
       ->Rip may not be accurate.
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 1
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

Track 15
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:55

   CRC32 hash            : BD7E0B69
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 9A2F8E5A
   AccurateRip signature  : AE52B1E7
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Skipped (treated as error)          : 0
       Edge jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 0
       Atom jitter error (maybe fixed)      : 1
       Drift error (maybe fixed)            : 0
       Dropped bytes error (maybe fixed)    : 0
       Duplicated bytes error (maybe fixed) : 0
       Inconsistency in error sectors      : 0

No errors occurred

End of status report

New XLD Secure Ripper: 16 retried sectors, no jitter errors and an accurate rip
Code: [Select]
X Lossless Decoder version 20101117 (125.1)

XLD extraction logfile from 2010-11-20 16:14:46 -0800

Jawbreaker / Unfun

Used drive : PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-112D (revision BC14)

Ripper mode            : XLD Secure Ripper
Disable audio cache    : OK for the drive with a cache less than 1375KiB
Make use of C2 pointers : NO
Read offset correction  : 48
Max retry count        : 100
Gap status              : Analyzed, Appended

TOC of the extracted CD
     Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
   ---------------------------------------------------------
       1  | 00:00:00 | 03:22:17 |        0    |    15166 
       2  | 03:22:17 | 02:24:48 |    15167    |    26014 
       3  | 05:46:65 | 04:07:27 |    26015    |    44566 
       4  | 09:54:17 | 02:41:03 |    44567    |    56644 
       5  | 12:35:20 | 04:00:52 |    56645    |    74696 
       6  | 16:35:72 | 04:24:23 |    74697    |    94519 
       7  | 21:00:20 | 03:27:25 |    94520    |  110069 
       8  | 24:27:45 | 03:30:42 |    110070    |  125861 
       9  | 27:58:12 | 02:52:08 |    125862    |  138769 
       10  | 30:50:20 | 03:32:22 |    138770    |  154691 
       11  | 34:22:42 | 02:53:63 |    154692    |  167729 
       12  | 37:16:30 | 03:48:70 |    167730    |  184899 
       13  | 41:05:25 | 03:28:22 |    184900    |  200521 
       14  | 44:33:47 | 03:40:48 |    200522    |  217069 
       15  | 48:14:20 | 05:50:15 |    217070    |  243334 

List of alternate offset correction values
       #  | Absolute | Relative | Confidence
   ------------------------------------------
       1  |    180  |    132  |      9   
       2  |    795  |    747  |      6   
       3  |    93  |    45  |      3   

AccurateRip Summary
   Track 01 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 02 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 03 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 04 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 05 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 06 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 07 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 08 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 09 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 10 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 11 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 12 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 13 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 14 : OK (confidence 4)
   Track 15 : OK (confidence 3)
       ->All tracks accurately ripped.

All Tracks
   Filename : /Volumes/Media Monster/New/Jawbreaker/Unfun/Jawbreaker -  Unfun.flac
   CRC32 hash            : 1204D900
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : F58C30A0
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 16
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 01
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:00

   CRC32 hash            : F85A51E9
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : EAB4E62B
   AccurateRip signature  : B6704DFA
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 02
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:37

   CRC32 hash            : C1F9C605
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : E8B050BC
   AccurateRip signature  : 9526446E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 03
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash            : D58060D3
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 757CBA94
   AccurateRip signature  : BAB054A3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 04
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:17

   CRC32 hash            : 23E45EEE
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 1B92789B
   AccurateRip signature  : 40C524F3
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 05
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:03

   CRC32 hash            : 126211D8
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 6BE43674
   AccurateRip signature  : 4C36926F
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 06
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:10

   CRC32 hash            : BCCA2C44
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 79181FB4
   AccurateRip signature  : 8B6F92AD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 07
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:30

   CRC32 hash            : 532D650D
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : C12AB7BB
   AccurateRip signature  : 6E6701DD
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 08
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:25

   CRC32 hash            : 58D769FD
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 8B6CBE42
   AccurateRip signature  : 7446925B
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 09
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:55

   CRC32 hash            : 22AD25AB
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : A3EDB300
   AccurateRip signature  : 5383BCE2
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 10
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:48

   CRC32 hash            : 401F7148
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 46F9A8D4
   AccurateRip signature  : 7A9BF15A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 11
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:20

   CRC32 hash            : 3E234398
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 7ABDE59F
   AccurateRip signature  : A0BC4D8E
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 12
   Pre-gap length : 00:00:08

   CRC32 hash            : 9024EBB6
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : B5B5FE02
   AccurateRip signature  : B8737D1D
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 2
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 13
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:33

   CRC32 hash            : 7DE5BCB5
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 3ED992ED
   AccurateRip signature  : AF94333A
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 0
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 14
   Pre-gap length : 00:02:25

   CRC32 hash            : C1741825
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : C5E99F8B
   AccurateRip signature  : C2A34BEC
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 4)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 5
       Damaged sector count                : 0

Track 15
   Pre-gap length : 00:01:55

   CRC32 hash            : BD7E0B69
   CRC32 hash (skip zero) : 9A2F8E5A
   AccurateRip signature  : AE52B1E7
       ->Accurately ripped! (confidence 3)
   Statistics
       Read error                          : 0
       Jitter error (maybe fixed)          : 0
       Retry sector count                  : 9
       Damaged sector count                : 0

No errors occurred

End of status report
  • Last Edit: 22 November, 2010, 01:04:58 PM by SmashCan

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #8
Love the new 'XLD Secure Ripper' which is doing an awesome job for some of the CD's which I had difficulty ripping in the past.

About the only request I have is instead of percentage there is something like a 'sector read' count or something on each track so that I can see progress is happening even if it is really slow.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #9
I'm not using a Mac at the moment, but if I was I'd love to try this program out.

Looks really decent. I'm glad the Mac-only people have a great secure-ripper option too. Considering (it seems) that most of the professional music-types are using Macs, I often wonder why there isn't more and "better" related programs for OSX.

One of these days I'll get around to playing around with XLD. 
The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #10
Ever since the last update discs that used to refuse to rip, they would hang on certain tracks now rip perfectly. Great work.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #11
Ever since the last update discs that used to refuse to rip, they would hang on certain tracks now rip perfectly. Great work.


When you mean 'hang' do you mean 'the whole application freezes'? I've had CD's that have taken hours to rip because of the number of retries but in terms of 'the whole application freezing', I've never seen that happen.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #12
XLD has never frozen on me. The cd's just get stuck a certain track just wont rip turn of the securing ripping then the cd would rip. Since the last update with the new secure ripping engine cd hats used to get stuck no longer they work perfectly now.

All in all this is one superb application and so easy to use.
  • Last Edit: 04 September, 2011, 09:52:25 AM by db1989

  • Phasenoise
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #13
Has anyone noticed that rips using the secure mode doesn't sound as sharp as CDParanoia? or maybe I'm crazy. Reads thru errors great, thanks for the feature.

  • greynol
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #14
I haven't, no.  Per TOS #8 do you have any double-blind test results to support this idea?
13 February 2016: The world was blessed with the passing of a truly vile and wretched person.

Your eyes cannot hear.

  • Phasenoise
  • [*]
XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #15
No sorry just been ripping my library for the first time and just paused to have a listen. Used both modes on discs which showed some oddities and some just for fun. Overall I'm impressed with both. Might try a blind test at some point but for the mean time I'm just gonna rip using CDParanoia until I reach discs which Accurip says are duff then swtich to XLDSecure and look at them later. The ones Accurip passes with XLDSecure have the same checksums as the failed CDParanoia rips, wish there was some more information about the process really, the way the ripping engines operate. I'll will have a read of the source code at some point. until then I trust CDParanoia and will continue the switching and using both modes on certain discs. Some documentation would be great, the all the edge jitter / atom jitter etc... if I can find out enough I might have a crack at documenting it all for others.
  • Last Edit: 13 December, 2010, 01:53:45 PM by Phasenoise

  • Phasenoise
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #16
Been listening for the past few hours and I must have had too much too drink or something, Sounds great all the same. Will carry on using both. When CDParanoia chokes I'll switch over knowing that it's doing the best job.

  • greynol
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #17
If the CRCs match then the data will be identical.

Even if they are different and the data isn't identical, know that differences, if audible, will manifest themselves as things like clicks and chirps rather than something less crisp, sharp, deep, warm, clear, airy, bassy, treblely, full, hollow, musical, affect soundstage, etc.
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Your eyes cannot hear.

  • mixminus1
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #18
Exactly - that's what cables are for.   

@Phasenoise, if you really want to get "hands on", prove it to yourself, etc., just open Terminal, navigate to the folder where the two rips you want to compare are, and type this:

Code: [Select]
cmp rip1.wav rip2.wav

This will do a bit-by-bit (well, technically, byte-by-byte) comparison of the two files - if there is a single bit of difference (literally) between the two files, it'll throw an error.  If they're identical, it'll just run and display nothing.

CRCs provide the exact same information automagically, but this is just a way for you to confirm that outside of XLD.
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XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #19
I'd like to really thank you for the XLD Secure Rip option. It has allowed me to get clean extractions from discs that have been a cause of problems for a few years.

Regards

  • mattn
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Reply #20
What I find is that XLDSecure often fails to rip a CD in a way that satisfies Accurip, but the same CD rips easily with CDParanoia. So I prefer to use CDParanoia, because it works! I regard this as a flaw in XLDSecure.

Those who imagine, however, that if they both work, XLDSecure and CDParanoia get different results are just objectively mistaken. The waveforms of the resulting files, if they satisfy Accurip, are identical.

XLD, New original secure ripping engine
Reply #21
I'm sold.

I just now (sorry about this) tested the XLD Secure Ripper engine on three rips. It was nearly twice as fast and often a bit more. It also didn't return the "maybe fixed 'errors'" that I got from the same CDs using CD Paranoia III 10.2.

I was content before, but now I'm even more so.

The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.