@Billytheonion's last reply:Nonsense!iTunes will still install all that crap even if you don't use it. What's more it also installs it's own drivers and other system files which have interfered with the operation of other programs on my system.
I would still prefer to organize my music on a properly designed folder structure, but I let iTunes organize my library when I first changed over
Billy, you don’t have to defend Apple at every opportunity.iTunes does come with a lot of crap enabled as default, which although able to be disabled in some cases, can just be annoying. Must we have to disable it all? And it doesn't allow simple drag'n'drop to the iPod (instead storing all media files on the device as seemingly randomly-chosen and cryptically named hidden folders*), doesn't support playing files unless they're added to the library (as just said), still stores personal information in purchased files (and DRM-encrypts videos), and features other restrictions, of which other users could probably provide much better examples.And of said “crap”, a lot is this irritating stuff that chooses music or creates playlists for you automatically--because Apple assume people are too daft to think for themselves, perhaps?--and/or allows you to share your listening habits or follow those of others.But colourful adverts with white-headphoned folk dancing around sell better than functionality and thinking for yourself. (I think it'll be Linux for me next time, in case anyone's not sure. )* It does offer sane automatic “Media type/Artist/Album/nn. Title.ext” organisation of files on your computer, but drag'n'drop to device would be nice.
Quote from: MichaelW on 08 September, 2010, 07:14:54 PMI would still prefer to organize my music on a properly designed folder structure, but I let iTunes organize my library when I first changed overCould you be a bit more specific on what iTunes does to your files? You seem to suggest that iTunes and a folder structure are mutually exclusive; that iTunes moves and copies your files to wherever it sees fit.
Quote from: dv1989 on 08 September, 2010, 02:18:59 PMiTunes…doesn't allow simple drag'n'drop to the iPod (instead storing all media files on the device as seemingly randomly-chosen and cryptically named hidden folders*)I'm not trying to be a wise-ass or argumentative, but what DAP supports dragging and dropping?
iTunes…doesn't allow simple drag'n'drop to the iPod (instead storing all media files on the device as seemingly randomly-chosen and cryptically named hidden folders*)
Are you loading a good DAP with Foobar? I don't know about Rockbox, but it doesn't seem worth throwing away compatibility with docks, car stereo, etc.
I like to think that my non-conformity is best expressed by my musical preferences. Not by opposing a large corporations attempts to make capital, sell products, and pay employees. I could care less about "glowing fruit" and "colorful adverts" trying to accomplish what companies must to avoid bankruptcy. It all just reeks of fan-boyism; such mantras. Like the slogans shouted by political parties on the extreme-left and extreme-right, it doesn't speak to the rest of us in the middle.
Reading a few of the above comments: I don't understand the hatred for iTunes. It is bloated, but is this even a problem, even for Windows-users anymore?? What, are people still rocking 2 gigs of RAM for a Windows installation? I'm sure it will work great on even a Mac Mini Snow Leopard server with 2 Gb of RAM and base specs. (I'll find out soon enough.)
Only thing i can think of is the Windows version does not have this option ?
20 seconds to start up must be something wrong at your end. OS X or Windows 7 is very fast here.
iTunes for Windows: Background processes installed on Windows XP, Vista, and 7
an over-priced touch-screen DAP
It's a hassle if you want to do any editing on your files, like custom (dynamic range) compression for playing in the car, but it works fine for ordinary listening, especially to the most widely enjoyed music.
I can confirm the 20 second start up time on my nettop. It has a dual-core, hyper-threaded 1.6GHz Atom 330 processor with 4GB of RAM (all 4GB is used by the processor as the Nvidia ION in my nettop has 256MB of on-board dedicated RAM) and running a 2 month old install of the 64-bit edition of Windows 7 Home Premium. I can essentially start iTunes up, go get something to drink, sit back down, and it opens. Is this a killer deal for me? Not really. My time isn't precious enough where going from 2 to 20 seconds is going to ruin my year. That and I have to rely on iTunes as I have an iPad. I knew that going into the iProduct universe would mean that I have to deal with iTunes here and there. I really don't care. It still starts up faster than iTunes 9 did on my system (by about 15 seconds) and I recently discovered that I can stream audio to more than one device. I currently have a 802.11G AirPort Express base station as the 802.11N version. The N is in the living room and the G is in my bedroom. Their sole purposes were so that I could stream music to either my main audio system or the one in my bedroom all while controlling my PC with my iPad. Now I can actually stream audio (whether it is music or part of a video file, finally) to multiple speakers at once and I will be able to stream audio to either base station with my iPad once iOS 4.2 comes out this November.So yeah, I am willing to bit the bullet here and there if it means I can fully sync videos, audio files, photos, and apps with both my iPod and my iPad along with the above features. Is iTunes perfect? No, but I don't think there is any perfect audio library manager out there. I can make a list of everything wrong with iTunes, foobar2000, Windows Media Player, Zune PC software, or whatever other "jukebox" that is out there. It doesn't matter. It just seems that, due to the popularity of Apple's iProducts, iTunes tends to get hammered on probably more than it should. Yeah, I just said that, kill me.
foobar2000 takes 21 seconds to load on my machine, and uses 115MB on startup, so I have no f*cking clue what y'all are whining about.