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Timing Problem

My drive is a caching, non-C2 drive, so I just started using greynol's method of Burst mode. I must say I was impressed at the speed of the rip and that even though some of the CDs had minor scratches, on the first Copy (without Test pass), Accurate Rip already deemed them accurate!

But I got a timing problem for one CD so far. (0:09:45 is in track 3)
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Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

EAC extraction logfile from 17. April 2008, 22:30

Oasis / (What's the Story) Morning Glory?

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B   Adapter: 1  ID: 1

Read mode : Burst

Read offset correction					  : 102
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out		  : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations	   : Yes
Used interface							  : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

Used output format			  : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate				: 768 kBit/s
Quality						 : High
Add ID3 tag					 : No
Command line compressor		 : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -V -8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" -T "comment=%e" %s


TOC of the extracted CD

	 Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
	---------------------------------------------------------
		1  |  0:00.00 |  3:21.50 |		 0	|	15124   
		2  |  3:21.50 |  3:59.62 |	 15125	|	33111   
		3  |  7:21.37 |  4:18.63 |	 33112	|	52524   
		4  | 11:40.25 |  4:47.62 |	 52525	|	74111   
		5  | 16:28.12 |  5:41.42 |	 74112	|	99728   
		6  | 22:09.54 |  0:44.46 |	 99729	|   103074   
		7  | 22:54.25 |  5:28.40 |	103075	|   127714   
		8  | 28:22.65 |  4:51.50 |	127715	|   149589   
		9  | 33:14.40 |  3:40.02 |	149590	|   166091   
	   10  | 36:54.42 |  5:04.00 |	166092	|   188891   
	   11  | 41:58.42 |  0:39.63 |	188892	|   191879   
	   12  | 42:38.30 |  7:27.62 |	191880	|   225466   


Range status and errors

Selected range

	 Filename C:\Album Art\Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory.wav

	 Timing problem 0:09:45

	 Peak level 98.9 %
	 Copy CRC 767AB545
	 Copy finished

No errors occurred

 
AccurateRip summary
 
Track  1  accurately ripped (confidence 33)  [A3972BC4]
Track  2  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [243A4EF0]
Track  3  accurately ripped (confidence 33)  [3C2D3BAB]
Track  4  accurately ripped (confidence 32)  [17BDB9F7]
Track  5  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [CA27B5C5]
Track  6  accurately ripped (confidence 32)  [FA709264]
Track  7  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [DC23711C]
Track  8  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [5BE50A7E]
Track  9  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [EC82ADBA]
Track 10  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [D994A872]
Track 11  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [A7448CB6]
Track 12  accurately ripped (confidence 31)  [94E118AB]
 
All tracks accurately ripped

End of status report
But strangely, Accurate Rip says all are accurate. So is this anything to be worried about?

Just a side question, I'm new to FLAC, and in the image I ripped, the title tag of the flac image was "Roll With It", which is actually the second track of the album. So what do you guys recommend I rename the title of the image to? The album name is already given in the album tag.

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Timing Problem

Reply #1 –
Timing problems can safely be ignored when you get an AR match or matching test CRC.

Considering you're ripping to a single-file image, you should really re-think your method of tagging.  It makes no sense to include a track number and a track title.

I don't know why EAC used this information from the second track with your image.

Timing Problem

Reply #2 –
Quote from: greynol on
I don't know why EAC used this information from the second track with your image.
IIRC, in older versions of EAC this problem was due to the 4 letter extension, but I thought that it was fixed in version 0.99. Synthetic Soul may know of a better explanation on this issue.
Surf's Up!
"Columnated Ruins Domino"

Timing Problem

Reply #3 –
Quote from: drbeachboy on
Quote from: greynol on
I don't know why EAC used this information from the second track with your image.
IIRC, in older versions of EAC this problem was due to the 4 letter extension, but I thought that it was fixed in version 0.99. Synthetic Soul may know of a better explanation on this issue.


So far I've ripped 4 CDs and all of them used the 2nd track so it's a rather consistent error. So do you recommend me to just remove the title & track number tags in the EAC Compression Options?

Timing Problem

Reply #4 –
It surely wouldn't hurt to try. I have been using REACT so long with EAC, that I forget what I did to get around the issue (if I got around it at all). Before REACT was released, Synthetic Soul (with very minor help from me) wrote a batch file for encoding FLAC images with EAC. He may still have it up on his site. Hopefully, he will read this and post back. If you can wait until this evening I can send to you, or else try REACT.
Surf's Up!
"Columnated Ruins Domino"

Timing Problem

Reply #5 –
I did some searching but cannot find exactly what a "timing problem" is.  I've done at least 100 CDs in Burst Mode and this is the first timing problem. Yet it is saying all tracks ripped accurately and a few had timing problems.

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Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 31. July 2010, 1:53

Eric Sardinas / Black Pearls

Used drive  : SONY    DVD RW DRU-710A   Adapter: 1  ID: 0

Read mode : Burst

Read offset correction                      : 12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 768 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  3:43.13 |         0    |    16737   
        2  |  3:43.13 |  3:48.03 |     16738    |    33840   
        3  |  7:31.16 |  4:03.08 |     33841    |    52073   
        4  | 11:34.24 |  4:21.21 |     52074    |    71669   
        5  | 15:55.45 |  2:46.63 |     71670    |    84182   
        6  | 18:42.33 |  6:28.50 |     84183    |   113332   
        7  | 25:11.08 |  3:55.39 |    113333    |   130996   
        8  | 29:06.47 |  4:22.36 |    130997    |   150682   
        9  | 33:29.08 |  3:22.34 |    150683    |   165866   
       10  | 36:51.42 |  4:02.71 |    165867    |   184087   
       11  | 40:54.38 |  3:52.16 |    184088    |   201503   
       12  | 44:46.54 |  3:27.53 |    201504    |   217081   
       13  | 50:46.32 |  2:26.57 |    228482    |   239488   


Track  1

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\01 - Flames Of Love .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 8A659DDD
     Copy CRC 8A659DDD
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [F8D0A008]
     Copy OK

Track  2

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\02 - Same Ol' Way .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 4D6069A9
     Copy CRC 4D6069A9
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [57094DBE]
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\03 - Bittersweet .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 535E8F0B
     Copy CRC 535E8F0B
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [90EB89CB]
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\04 - Ain't No Crime .wav

     Timing problem 0:02:44
     Timing problem 0:02:53
     Timing problem 0:02:55
     Timing problem 0:03:07
     Timing problem 0:03:12
     Timing problem 0:03:20

     Peak level 97.8 %
     Test CRC 276F3E55
     Copy CRC 276F3E55
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [DAA79630]
     Copy finished

Track  5

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\05 - Big Red Line .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC EADC532D
     Copy CRC EADC532D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [DB202F71]
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\06 - Liar's Dice Blues .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC F9048DD4
     Copy CRC F9048DD4
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [3D641DE0]
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\07 - Black Pearls .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 5B80CAFC
     Copy CRC 5B80CAFC
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [0881C3DF]
     Copy OK

Track  8

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\08 - Sorrow's Kitchen .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC C64F21E3
     Copy CRC C64F21E3
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [84A38019]
     Copy OK

Track  9

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\09 - Four Roses .wav

     Timing problem 0:00:41
     Timing problem 0:01:08

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 2412DDB2
     Copy CRC 2412DDB2
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [5F1ADEC2]
     Copy finished

Track 10

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\10 - Old Smyrna Road .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC C31F8DB0
     Copy CRC C31F8DB0
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [5A233DD4]
     Copy OK

Track 11

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\11 - Tenfold Trouble .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC E1BBBF4D
     Copy CRC E1BBBF4D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [4FE07B21]
     Copy OK

Track 12

     Filename C:\EACrips\Eric Sardinas\(2003) Black Pearls\12 - Wicked Ways .wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Test CRC 7F292757
     Copy CRC 7F292757
     Accurately ripped (confidence 11)  [D977855A]
     Copy OK


All tracks accurately ripped

No errors occurred

End of status report
 

Timing Problem

Reply #6 –
I searched and found an old topic asking about timing problems, in which one reply quotes the EAC FAQ's own answer:
Quote
When using burst mode, EAC also shows up timing problems, are these really errors or what?
No, burst mode has no error detection nor error correction. If burst mode brings up a timing problem, the read command needed a lot of time, which could have several reasons, like loosing sync or trying to fix an read error. Of course this is a really poor “error detection” and should not be taken as serious indication.