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Trouble installing XLD

I at last received my 27 inch iMac from Apple. Now, I'm trying to set it up to rip CDs. I would like to us XLD, though, the issue is that when I download the GUI from the homepage, and install it, the icon appears in the doc, though, no program appears. Am I doing something wrong?

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #1 –
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
I at last received my 27 inch iMac from Apple. Now, I'm trying to set it up to rip CDs. I would like to us XLD, though, the issue is that when I download the GUI from the homepage, and install it, the icon appears in the doc, though, no program appears. Am I doing something wrong?


You may be used to Windows and most Linux window managers. Under OS X, a program may be running with no windows open. If it is active, the menu bar will indicate that. If that is what's happening, then, after you start XLD and its icon appears on the dock, the menubar should say "XLD  File  Edit CDDB" etc. Or you can switch to XLD by cmd-tab or clicking on the icon or some other way, and the menu will appear. To rip a cd, either drag it to the XLD icon or go to File->Open audio CD ((I think these should work, I haven't ripped a CD in some time).

Note that to configure the output, you must go to XLD->Preferences (or cmd-,) and select output format, location etc.

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #2 –
Quote from: aclo on
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
I at last received my 27 inch iMac from Apple. Now, I'm trying to set it up to rip CDs. I would like to us XLD, though, the issue is that when I download the GUI from the homepage, and install it, the icon appears in the doc, though, no program appears. Am I doing something wrong?


You may be used to Windows and most Linux window managers. Under OS X, a program may be running with no windows open. If it is active, the menu bar will indicate that. If that is what's happening, then, after you start XLD and its icon appears on the dock, the menubar should say "XLD  File  Edit CDDB" etc. Or you can switch to XLD by cmd-tab or clicking on the icon or some other way, and the menu will appear. To rip a cd, either drag it to the XLD icon or go to File->Open audio CD ((I think these should work, I haven't ripped a CD in some time).

Note that to configure the output, you must go to XLD->Preferences (or cmd-,) and select output format, location etc.


Thank you very much. And yes, I'm new to Macs, and this is something that I tend to forget, though, I am getting better, although, the fact that no window appeared threw me. And, seeing as though I'm new to Macs, may I ask you something related to them, and not so much about ripping on them?

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
Quote from: aclo on
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
I at last received my 27 inch iMac from Apple. Now, I'm trying to set it up to rip CDs. I would like to us XLD, though, the issue is that when I download the GUI from the homepage, and install it, the icon appears in the doc, though, no program appears. Am I doing something wrong?


You may be used to Windows and most Linux window managers. Under OS X, a program may be running with no windows open. If it is active, the menu bar will indicate that. If that is what's happening, then, after you start XLD and its icon appears on the dock, the menubar should say "XLD  File  Edit CDDB" etc. Or you can switch to XLD by cmd-tab or clicking on the icon or some other way, and the menu will appear. To rip a cd, either drag it to the XLD icon or go to File->Open audio CD ((I think these should work, I haven't ripped a CD in some time).

Note that to configure the output, you must go to XLD->Preferences (or cmd-,) and select output format, location etc.


Thank you very much. And yes, I'm new to Macs, and this is something that I tend to forget, though, I am getting better, although, the fact that no window appeared threw me. And, seeing as though I'm new to Macs, may I ask you something related to them, and not so much about ripping on them?


sure, go ahead

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #4 –
Quote from: aclo on
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
Quote from: aclo on
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
I at last received my 27 inch iMac from Apple. Now, I'm trying to set it up to rip CDs. I would like to us XLD, though, the issue is that when I download the GUI from the homepage, and install it, the icon appears in the doc, though, no program appears. Am I doing something wrong?


You may be used to Windows and most Linux window managers. Under OS X, a program may be running with no windows open. If it is active, the menu bar will indicate that. If that is what's happening, then, after you start XLD and its icon appears on the dock, the menubar should say "XLD  File  Edit CDDB" etc. Or you can switch to XLD by cmd-tab or clicking on the icon or some other way, and the menu will appear. To rip a cd, either drag it to the XLD icon or go to File->Open audio CD ((I think these should work, I haven't ripped a CD in some time).

Note that to configure the output, you must go to XLD->Preferences (or cmd-,) and select output format, location etc.


Thank you very much. And yes, I'm new to Macs, and this is something that I tend to forget, though, I am getting better, although, the fact that no window appeared threw me. And, seeing as though I'm new to Macs, may I ask you something related to them, and not so much about ripping on them?


sure, go ahead


Well, I was wondering, what is the proper way to uninstall a program on a Mac. For example, XLD, it is stored in my downloads, and if I wanted to remove it for some reason, would I simply have to move it to the trash? As I said, I'm used to Windows, and I know it handles programs in the most awful way (using multiple folders in the registry, which can be almost impossible to remove all of the files sometimes, or remove them without creating errors in the registry), so, I can't help but wonder how OSX handles programs, knowing that it doesn't have a registry.

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #5 –
Yes, if I may jump in, most applications on the Mac can be removed by moving them to, and then emptying, the Trash.  Some applications may be distributed with an Installer, though typically even those can be removed by deleting the application.  Those that install other components usually include an uninstaller, or at least instructions on how to remove the components.

Also, it's customary to "install" applications into the "Applications" folder at the root of your hard drive (/Applications).  You could also create an "Applications" folder inside your Home folder (/Users/<user>/Applications) and place the programs you download in there.  This isn't necessary.  As you've found they'll run fine from any location.  Some, poorly written, programs will require that they be in the root Applications folder, but in general you might find it convenient to keep your programs in a central location.  Otherwise, your Downloads folder may get very cluttered and difficult to navigate.

Welcome to the "cult" ;-)

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #6 –
Also look in your user /Library folder for folders by the app. Most will actually be in ~/Library/Application Support. Also look in ~/Library/Preferences for relevant .plist files - will usually have the developing company name and/or app name (e.g. com.adobe.Photoshop.plist) but could be anything. And then there's the ugly truth that too many apps will litter invisible files anywhere they please.

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #7 –
Quote from: tim.lance on
Also look in your user /Library folder for folders by the app. Most will actually be in ~/Library/Application Support. Also look in ~/Library/Preferences for relevant .plist files - will usually have the developing company name and/or app name (e.g. com.adobe.Photoshop.plist) but could be anything. And then there's the ugly truth that too many apps will litter invisible files anywhere they please.

I thank both of your for your replies. I do have one question on something else pertaining to this though, and that is what exactly am I doing with the program when I am moving the icon for XLD for example, from the download folder to my applications folder? Oh, and also, how would I move a program to the application folder that you're speaking of

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Ryan Woloshen on
Quote from: tim.lance on
Also look in your user /Library folder for folders by the app. Most will actually be in ~/Library/Application Support. Also look in ~/Library/Preferences for relevant .plist files - will usually have the developing company name and/or app name (e.g. com.adobe.Photoshop.plist) but could be anything. And then there's the ugly truth that too many apps will litter invisible files anywhere they please.

I thank both of your for your replies. I do have one question on something else pertaining to this though, and that is what exactly am I doing with the program when I am moving the icon for XLD for example, from the download folder to my applications folder? Oh, and also, how would I move a program to the application folder that you're speaking of


The applications you're likely to meet in OS X are usually what's called "bundles", which means that the thing you click on to run a program is really a folder. The OS knows to handle it differently than normal folders (it finds the executable in there and runs it), but a folder it is. So, when you move an application to the Applications folder, you're literally moving this bundle there. To see inside this bundle, you can right click on an application and select "Show Package Contents", which does what it says.

To move it, you'd open this Applications folder (I guess open a Finder window, which should open in your home directory, then go up twice (press cmd-uparrow twice, I don't remember how you go up if you're using the mouse), and you should see a few folders, one of which is Applications. So open that and drag the application in there.

As for removing the various plist and other files applications may leave behind when you get rid of them, I wouldn't bother. They're usually just configuration files and not that big. If you want to, there are applications that claim they search and locate files related to some application that you've deleted, but I don't know how well they work (I've been told AppCleaner works OK and is free, but I haven't really tried it).

So in brief removing the application is simple, just put it into the trash (you may not be able to empty the trash completely until you log out though) and don't worry about the files it leaves behind as they're generally just inert junk at worst (and a few kilobytes usually). Some applications come with installers and then they should generally offer a way to uninstall.

If you really want to see which files were created/changed by an application, there are a couple of ways, but I don't think they're terribly useful to you.

PS: seems I used "directory" and "folder" interchangeably above, sorry

Trouble installing XLD

Reply #9 –
You can also get to the Applications folder by switching to the Finder and selecting the "Go" menu and then "Applications".