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List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Is there a list of CDs with the last track accuraterip problem or is there a workaround or different way of verifying them? I've tried adjust adjusting EAC options, and i've tried cuetools, but if the problem is specifically with accuraterip i'm not sure what to do. I'd rather not go on the assumption that the rip is accurate if its possible that it isnt.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #1
What "last track" problem are you talking about?  I've never heard of there being a set of discs having such a problem.  Unless you're talking about Enhanced CDs where EAC and other rippers would skip ripping that last data track.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #2
To Clarify:
According to what i've read on the forums, there is a bug with accuraterip and lead-in / lead-out and regardless of whether you have the ' lead-in/lead-out ' option in EAC configured properly for your burner, the first or last track on certain CDs will not verify with Accuraterip. Thus i made a post looking for other verification options or a list of CDs commonly having this problem. Just incase i was wrong, i tried turning on the 'lead-in/out' option and re-ripped a cd. same result.

Just incase, i may as well throw this info in for good measure.

I have an LG GSA H10N, I DO NOT have overread lead-in and lead-out ticked in EAC. Is this correct?
I also tested this drive for caching. it says yes. but when i did further tests with CacheX and Feurio, the results showed that my drive only Caches in 37 kB chunks which is below the EAC 64 kB threshold. So I also DO NOT have 'Drive caches audio data' ticked.
Everything else should be config'd properly as I used quite a good guide.

I will also mention that i have ripped a good 60+ CDs so far, all completely accurate without errors, and the CDs having this problem have good track integrity and do not have errors. The final track just will not verify.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #3
According to what i've read on the forums, there is a bug with accuraterip and lead-in / lead-out and regardless of whether you have the ' lead-in/lead-out ' option in EAC configured properly for your burner, the first or last track on certain CDs will not verify with Accuraterip.
The bug is with EAC which was presumably fixed as of V0.99pb5.  It has absolutely nothing to do with AccurateRip.

Thus i made a post looking for other verification options or a list of CDs commonly having this problem. Just incase i was wrong, i tried turning on the 'lead-in/out' option and re-ripped a cd. same result.
Did you try burst mode?

I have an LG GSA H10N, I DO NOT have overread lead-in and lead-out ticked in EAC. Is this correct?
Yes.

So I also DO NOT have 'Drive caches audio data' ticked.
This is correct, too.

Your problem could be with the drive.  Have you tried a different one?
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #4
No i haven't tried a different drive. I don't have a second one. I also havent tried the ol toothpaste method yet, cus i'm a little scared about damaging cds that seem to be in fairly good condition, but i guess i'll have to do it eventually.

Thanks for the info Greynol.

By any chance do you know if there are any settings that need to be changed for CDs with copy protection? cus i've been able to verify most of my CDs with either EAC or queuetools. But one CD  Royksopp - The Understanding - won't verify any tracks, and i'm assuming thats due to protection. All the other CDs i'm having trouble with are basically one specific track.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #5
I wouldn't pull out the abrasives and polish unless you can't get consistent results.  You're generating a second CRC for tracks that can't be verified by AR, right?

Regarding the other, good results can often be drive-dependent.  TOS9 forbids us from talking about this in any detail.
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #6
I'm not sure what you mean about the second CRC. Do you mean in the EAC menu the read and test CRC for the track don't match and under CRC in the menu it'll say '#' instead of 'ok'?

Here is the test info for the 3 last tracks of these 3 CDs.
First - Boards of Canada - Geodgaddi                         

Track      CRC32                  W/O Null                      Log
EAC says the track isnt in the database, and cuetools gives it a partial match for [00000000] on multiple instances. at the bottom  23    [FF67776F]         [00000000]       CRC32

Does that mean it really isnt in the database? or do i have to somehow get cuetools or EAC to recognize the CRC32 instead of the without null when verifying? and how do i do that?

Second Tea Party - Edges of Twilight

Code: [Select]
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 13. January 2010, 14:50

Tea Party / The Edges of Twilight

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode              : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations      : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track

Performing a test extraction only


TOC of the extracted CD

    Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.37 |  5:05.33 |        37    |    22944 
        2  |  5:05.70 |  3:42.20 |    22945    |    39614 
        3  |  8:48.15 |  7:31.07 |    39615    |    73446 
        4  | 16:19.22 |  3:58.45 |    73447    |    91341 
        5  | 20:17.67 |  2:51.43 |    91342    |  104209 
        6  | 23:09.35 |  5:45.17 |    104210    |  130101 
        7  | 28:54.52 |  5:16.55 |    130102    |  153856 
        8  | 34:11.32 |  3:39.45 |    153857    |  170326 
        9  | 37:51.02 |  5:26.10 |    170327    |  194786 
      10  | 43:17.12 |  3:47.68 |    194787    |  211879 
      11  | 47:05.05 |  5:52.72 |    211880    |  238351 
      12  | 52:58.02 | 14:16.38 |    238352    |  302589 


Track 12

    Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\12 - Walk With Me.wav

    Peak level 95.7 %
    Track quality 100.0 %
    Test CRC 95F02C3E
    Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6)  [A2E7F95D], AccurateRip returned [AE48F2B2]
    Copy OK


No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report
Third was Radiohead Amnesiac

I just tried ripping the track again by itself and it came out accurate. Weird. The test and copy CRC's were still different though. Will my queue sheet be messed up? or am i all good.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #7
Do you mean in the EAC menu the read and test CRC for the track don't match and under CRC in the menu it'll say '#' instead of 'ok'?
Yes.  The test CRCs are generated by selecting tracks and pressing F8, or if you rip using Test & Copy (F6).

Does that mean it really isnt in the database?
I have no idea.  The information you've given is still very sparse; it makes giving meaningful help pretty difficult.

Will my queue sheet be messed up?
No, your cue sheet will be fine.
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #8
Sorry. Didnt mean for the info to be sparse.

Code: [Select]
G:\Archive\Boards Of Canada - 2002 - Geogaddi [FLAC]\Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi.cue: offset -3,
rip not accurate.
[Verification date: 13/01/2010 4:44:52 PM]
[Disc ID: 0036c6ce-03948928-580f7c17]
Offset applied: 667
Track [ CRC ] Status
 01 [7e841f2a] (00/203) No matches
 02 [63ea6fe0] (00/203) No matches
 03 [f178759c] (00/204) No matches
 04 [459ac7de] (00/204) No matches
 05 [ac3a6bb0] (00/204) No matches
 06 [0bc96b55] (00/205) No matches
 07 [21dbcb30] (00/202) No matches
 08 [7819e82f] (00/203) No matches
 09 [4c31a4f9] (00/204) No matches
 10 [d4d755df] (00/205) No matches
 11 [f40a1ae5] (00/204) No matches
 12 [7e46a641] (00/203) No matches
 13 [7f680931] (00/204) No matches
 14 [e0302b91] (00/199) No matches
 15 [8fb51a3a] (00/203) No matches
 16 [906d811a] (00/199) No matches
 17 [9fd111d9] (00/201) No matches
 18 [8258fb25] (00/205) No matches
 19 [63b1a5d6] (00/198) No matches
 20 [40be2ad7] (00/201) No matches
 21 [4e369fb0] (00/194) No matches
 22 [8d3ff744] (00/195) No matches
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -1331:
 01 [145ee92b] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [267bda9a] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [40a62d7f] (00/204) No matches
 04 [f0f1b9e3] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [3a32c2c1] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [6f1768ec] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [d633f062] (00/202) No matches
 08 [c08c3f8d] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [44dfb70f] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [143906f3] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [c9616217] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [d0cb11d9] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [002c16d2] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [16ecf497] (00/199) No matches
 15 [df2a3b68] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [fe0819cb] (02/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [e9621289] (00/201) No matches
 18 [e57f9617] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [3a5fd96e] (02/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [b85b0baa] (02/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [9f9f3c00] (02/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [cb8849d2] (02/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -738:
 01 [4bcc9fc2] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [7f70ab16] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [afcad251] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [103f3b51] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [e80f3481] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [17ecc63d] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [004406e7] (02/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [b52f43f6] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [cbcc8be8] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [a3f6f0d8] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [a15abd93] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [2060e909] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [4249e4de] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [fcb1dbd1] (02/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [0dbcf451] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [b03902b6] (02/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [03b86ea8] (02/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [6222e58b] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [e9205060] (02/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [030413af] (02/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [e33af9fe] (02/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [d1714c78] (02/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -733:
 01 [06a23aab] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [010acce4] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [7c5430c2] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [bad29930] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [c4a6bafe] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [03cec29c] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [fee899e5] (02/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [549bbb37] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [819fb849] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [a76ea02c] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [5fe424d9] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [a8852914] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [83f462a4] (02/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [26ce8ffd] (02/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [15b34391] (02/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [efa48890] (02/199) Partial match
 17 [170e54a2] (02/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [4fd0f9c7] (02/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [b03475ad] (02/198) Partial match
 20 [a771060e] (02/201) Partial match
 21 [235119ea] (02/194) Partial match
 22 [1e55e856] (02/195) Partial match
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -685:
 01 [6140b349] (16/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [0fbf6495] (16/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [fc53b463] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [3b4d05f1] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [0b63b3b7] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [4b74a451] (16/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [beb11d06] (16/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [3190ffac] (16/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [33450e0b] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [5c20594c] (16/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [f8b7248c] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [b1f4a7dd] (15/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [984fd411] (16/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [f020b7dd] (16/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [c59b2874] (16/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [e40628ca] (16/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [febf52dc] (16/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [51ad9bdb] (16/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [8c2ca83c] (16/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [cb6b08af] (16/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [9a6cb1db] (16/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [66e88d76] (16/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -667:
 01 [3e493659] (65/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [7f0c88af] (65/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [27a8a016] (66/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [a368c8c1] (65/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [3d82fca9] (64/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [392298a4] (66/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [86ad2e32] (65/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [94ca33dd] (65/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [571bc990] (65/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [78c1c729] (66/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [bfe8fa81] (65/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [ad5a1004] (65/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [7ba345b9] (65/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [bc29a6bc] (64/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [fc24e8a6] (63/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [f25dcbbb] (62/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [85a27d4a] (63/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [39f31204] (65/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [2f479ef3] (65/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [cd36b093] (64/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [5fef0ba6] (63/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [e21f8b62] (62/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -89:
 01 [67086ddc] (09/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [4d46c833] (09/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [3adecc4c] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [7694b2a9] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [365050b7] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [a462b0d5] (09/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [ce2e9208] (09/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [7238db93] (09/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [9e169590] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [aa22ba6c] (09/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [4d8b3e1d] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [e43dfd90] (09/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [e328d333] (09/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [051f6e0f] (09/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [528d77c8] (09/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [4ce3d201] (09/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [ed240928] (09/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [fffbc771] (09/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [34a4e25f] (09/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [3df78f31] (09/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [6af2f459] (09/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [015aba6e] (09/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match
Offsetted by -3:
 01 [7f530f41] (105/203) Accurately ripped
 02 [bb82c5b2] (105/203) Accurately ripped
 03 [92edbeee] (107/204) Accurately ripped
 04 [2817652f] (106/204) Accurately ripped
 05 [7cfe0dd2] (107/204) Accurately ripped
 06 [e1b26eb0] (106/205) Accurately ripped
 07 [55af72f8] (106/202) Accurately ripped
 08 [215a6ecc] (105/203) Accurately ripped
 09 [39088de6] (106/204) Accurately ripped
 10 [92039c5a] (106/205) Accurately ripped
 11 [e20d75bd] (106/204) Accurately ripped
 12 [5a23fc7f] (106/203) Accurately ripped
 13 [0d96722b] (106/204) Accurately ripped
 14 [90c958f1] (104/199) Accurately ripped
 15 [bbdf7fb2] (107/203) Accurately ripped
 16 [3e616b07] (106/199) Accurately ripped
 17 [12ecc1b9] (107/201) Accurately ripped
 18 [aed764a7] (107/205) Accurately ripped
 19 [a0aa9d2c] (102/198) Accurately ripped
 20 [7d64c179] (106/201) Accurately ripped
 21 [029d9079] (100/194) Accurately ripped
 22 [f8b6ccf2] (102/195) Accurately ripped
 23 [00000000] (01/01) Partial match

Track [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL] [  LOG  ]
 -- [31A22111] [BD41F0D4]
 01 [080B6291] [6150E23A] [7AB0A645]
 02 [22DA8A3E] [59579420] [95C97E81]
 03 [56A4D1D6] [E021DD37] [83AEB686]
 04 [63E4D630] [B5C02A1F] [E7AF7868]
 05 [DF126FE9] [5A13AEAA] [94348981]
 06 [6DC87820] [4E8AD60E] [595F3EF1]
 07 [8D7D61E5] [270B95E5] [DE8B6057]
 08 [DF8015C1] [67628152] [37581F28]
 09 [DA2D1B5B] [7DDED3A0] [07A03932]
 10 [74BB94B0] [EF0CA1BA] [58CE82D2]
 11 [BC8591EA] [C863591B] [6DFF3823]
 12 [75B4B33A] [D3735840] [2E154B8D]
 13 [9D8CCC72] [3B856BA8] [E40974FA]
 14 [BD0CF5CE] [3D9ADE2B] [CC13CFE5]
 15 [A6FC9577] [77354CF9] [5A3DE9F8]
 16 [30EA1077] [B2FEEA37] [2720705B]
 17 [BACB9F1F] [B807D788] [63271DB3]
 18 [0176248C] [5C4F7A16] [274A56CF]
 19 [DF305D25] [AA1F671C] [C15F5DBC]
 20 [214A9932] [96C98E19] [B07B9EF7]
 21 [C4318F47] [951A0945] [8A72C661]
 22 [1DF6F030] [C7477149] [A5F5641E]
 23 [FF67776F] [00000000]   CRC32

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #9
This is an original CD, not a CD-R or a download, correct?
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #10
The last track on Geogaddi is digital silence, perhaps this has something to do with it.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #11
oh it is a digital silence. alright. well then i'm not too worried about how accurately ripped my silence is  lol

I just toothpasted my Tea Party - Edges of Twilight. If that works. Those 3 CDs are out of my unverified list. Thanks everyone.

List of CDs with last track accuraterip bug? other tool?

Reply #12
Well after toothpasting it, it still didnt work. I don't have any vasoline so i cant try that yet.
but heres the results after a full re-rip of the entire album. Only problem is the last track.

Code: [Select]
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 13. January 2010, 17:28

Tea Party / The Edges of Twilight

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode         : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction             : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out     : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations     : Yes
Used interface                     : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                       : Appended to previous track

Used output format      : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate        : 1024 kBit/s
Quality         : High
Add ID3 tag         : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\Flac\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -V -8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g"
-T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s

TOC of the extracted CD

Track |  Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
  1  |  0:00.37 |  5:05.33 |        37    |    22944 
  2  |  5:05.70 |  3:42.20 |    22945    |    39614 
  3  |  8:48.15 |  7:31.07 |   39615    |    73446 
  4  | 16:19.22 |  3:58.45 |   73447    |    91341 
  5  | 20:17.67 |  2:51.43 |   91342    |  104209 
  6  | 23:09.35 |  5:45.17 | 104210    |  130101 
  7  | 28:54.52 |  5:16.55 | 130102    |  153856 
  8  | 34:11.32 |  3:39.45 | 153857    |  170326 
  9  | 37:51.02 |  5:26.10 | 170327    |  194786 
  10  | 43:17.12 |  3:47.68 |    194787    |  211879 
  11  | 47:05.05 |  5:52.72 | 211880    |  238351 
  12  | 52:58.02 | 14:16.38 | 238352    |  302589 

Track  1

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
01 - Fire in the Head.wav

 Pre-gap length  0:00:02.49

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 1576A16E
 Copy CRC 1576A16E
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [92B672D6]
 Copy OK

Track  2

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
02 - The Bazaar.wav

 Pre-gap length  0:00:00.04

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 40245AFB
 Copy CRC 40245AFB
 Accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [B4471395]
 Copy OK

Track  3

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
03 - Correspondences.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC DB7D536A
 Copy CRC DB7D536A
 Accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [18A1BEBF]
 Copy OK

Track  4

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
04 - The Badger.wav

 Peak level 95.6 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 9EBA487C
 Copy CRC 9EBA487C
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [296283CF]
 Copy OK

Track  5

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
05 - Silence.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 67E529D8
 Copy CRC 67E529D8
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [412F3BE7]
 Copy OK

Track  6

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
06 - Sister Awake.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 1E6AD622
 Copy CRC 1E6AD622
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [107C8F0C]
 Copy OK

Track  7

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
07 - Turn the Lamp Down Low.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 85940F59
 Copy CRC 85940F59
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [9597F16F]
 Copy OK

Track  8

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
08 - Shadows on the Mountainside.wav

 Peak level 88.9 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC DF4F1EEB
 Copy CRC DF4F1EEB
 Accurately ripped (confidence 5)  [E3125C1E]
 Copy OK

Track  9

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
09 - Drawing Down the Moon.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC A010F293
 Copy CRC A010F293
 Accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [E979CEAF]
 Copy OK

Track 10

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
10 - Inanna.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 923C494C
 Copy CRC 923C494C
 Accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [8E57C0A5]
 Copy OK

Track 11

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
11 - Coming Home.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 99.9 %
 Test CRC A53C7D68
 Copy CRC A53C7D68
 Accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [99F2291E]
 Copy OK

Track 12

 Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\
12 - Walk With Me.wav

 Peak level 95.7 %
 Track quality 100.0 %
 Test CRC 95F02C3E
 Copy CRC 95F02C3E
 Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6)  [A2E7F95D],
AccurateRip returned [AE48F2B2]
 Copy OK


11 track(s) accurately ripped
 1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report

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Reply #13
Your Boards of Canada disc appears to be ripped accurately.  I find it very curious that many of the various offsets correspond exactly with some drive offsets (733, 685, 667).

EDIT: Try that the last track of the last rip again using burst mode like I suggested earlier.

EDIT2: Scratch that, try the rip again using EAC V0.99pb4 and see what happens.
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

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Reply #14
I tried burst mode just for kicks and it came back with the same result.

I also tried turning on the C2 option, it still wasn't accurate, but it came back with a different ID #

Accurate rip returned [AE48F2B2]

Without C2 [A2E7F95D] this same result was in burst mode.

With C2 [0E81F95D]

The test and copy CRC's matched every time. But when i used C2 the CRC's (matching test and copy) were different from when i didnt.

I'm gonna try the .99 pb4 now

EDIT: I can't seem to find a safe link for .99 pb4, if you have one please let me know.

EDIT 2: Ok i think i may know what the problem is. After what happened with boards of Canada i decided to listen to the track. its 14:16 long. Theres 7:26 of song, then 30 seconds of silence, then 2 minutes of more song, then 4 minutes of silence, then about 16 seconds of more sound. So if those silences mess with identification of the track just like the silent track on Geogaddi. Then well there we are.

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Reply #15
Try this link for EAC 0.99 pb4: Rarewares.

Silent parts in the middle of the track should not interfere with the different CRCs you are getting. Try using EACs Tools>Compare WAVs... feature to see what the difference is between the file ripped with C2 correction and the one without.

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Reply #16
http://www.rarewares.org/others.php

So if those silences mess with identification of the track just like the silent track on Geogaddi.

This is probably not the case.  A track comprised entirely of null samples will give a hash of zeros based on the AR hash calculation.  This other track is not comprised entirely of null samples.

EDIT: I see dgauze beat me.

EDIT2: I wouldn't get hung up on the the version of the rip done with C2 pointers (not C2 correction which is something different, BTW).
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

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Reply #17
My mistake. Regarding the different CRC on the rip done with C2 pointers, I had the same problem with prebeta 4 when ripping one specific disc in my collection, but not after the prebeta 5 bug fix. Could it be the C2 implementation of the drive causing this?

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Reply #18
Anything is possible.  Sounds like this C2 thing is worth pursuing as well (my mistake!).

Could you provide some logs of the problem you're describing between pb4 and pb5 as a new topic for discussion perhaps?

Since it was never made clear, I'm under the impression that the bug we're talking about in this thread is this one:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=670259

It may or may not be the cause of the problem here, but we can't know unless we try.
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?


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Reply #20
Oh right, it's one in the same.  I had forgotten that little nuance.  So you get the same CRCs in pb5 regardless of burst, secure w/C2, w/o C2?
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

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Reply #21
Yes.

EDIT: That was the only disc I've ripped with that problem.

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Reply #22
Cool!
Thanks for the update

@Skybrowser:
Can you provide an EAC log (in a codebox, ) for the last track using T&C with the use of C2 pointers enabled using both versions of EAC?  This would be in addition to a rip log in secure mode with the use of C2 pointers disabled for V0.99pb4.
Is 24-bit/192kHz good enough for your lo-fi vinyl, or do you need 32/384?

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Reply #23
Ok, i got a little lost in the last few posts. I'm new to alot of this stuff. Just to clarify, my last post was specifically about .99 pb5, because i didnt have a link to pb4 yet. But i'll show you the results in a log for everything i did in pb5.  T&C  secure w/0 C2  then    secure with C2 then Burst. I'll look into trying pb4 for you.

Heres the Log.

Code: [Select]
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 13. January 2010, 17:28

Tea Party / The Edges of Twilight

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode   : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache   : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations   : Yes
Used interface   : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

[...]

Track 12

Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\12 - Walk With Me.wav

Peak level 95.7 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 95F02C3E
Copy CRC 95F02C3E
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6)  [A2E7F95D], AccurateRip returned [AE48F2B2]
Copy OK

11 track(s) accurately ripped
 1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report

------------------------------------------------------------

Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 13. January 2010, 19:29

Tea Party / The Edges of Twilight

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode   : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache   : No
Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

Read offset correction   : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out   : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations   : Yes
Used interface   : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

[...]

Track 12

Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\12 - Walk With Me.wav

Peak level 95.7 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC F3EC04C5
Copy CRC F3EC04C5
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6)  [0E81F95D], AccurateRip returned [AE48F2B2]
Copy OK

No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report

------------------------------------------------------------

Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 13. January 2010, 19:38

Tea Party / The Edges of Twilight

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-H10N  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode : Burst

Read offset correction   : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out   : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations   : Yes
Used interface   : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

[...]

Track 12

Filename G:\Archive\Tea Party - 1995 - The Edges of Twilight [FLAC]\12 - Walk With Me.wav

Peak level 95.7 %
Test CRC 95F02C3E
Copy CRC 95F02C3E
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6)  [A2E7F95D], AccurateRip returned [AE48F2B2]
Copy OK

No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report

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Reply #24
codebox that mofo, i almost burnt my wheel mouse out

Split the log up with multiple codebox

[codebox ] [ /codebox]
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