Quote from: Northpack on 12 October, 2011, 06:56:35 AMsonorous and bright sound qualitiesDo these terms have (common) definitions? Just asking.
sonorous and bright sound qualities
You can't make the blanket assumption that instrument scale (read: string lengths), string material, construction and gauge remain constant even though the reference pitch changes. IOW, it's not like reference pitch evolves but the instruments don't.
Who makes this assumption!?
Quote from: Northpack on 12 October, 2011, 08:18:40 AMWho makes this assumption!?Is it possible that it might have been someone other than you?
Since you seem to want feedback about your post, I can't exactly concur that increasing string tension results in a sound that is thin and harsh. If you constrain the scale and pitch of the instrument but increase the string gauge (and hence the tension), I don't find that it sounds thin; quite the opposite.
AFAIK lifting the string's tension creates more upper harmonics - so the overall balance shifts towards the bright.
Btw. did you notice that my guitar is tuned to A-432Hz?
Maybe it's my use of the word sonorous which caused confusion. Possibly it has a slightly different meaning in German where is means "deep, dark, full"?
You also need to make sure the material on which the string is terminated is also the same, otherwise you're bringing more variables into the equation.
You should really be comparing the overtones of the same open string tuned to two different notes.
I'd also be interested in a similar test with steel strings, seeing that it may allow more accurate extrapolation to other stringed instruments that do not use nylon.
I don't believe that jazz and blues guitar players use thicker gauge strings to sound thin and harsh.
I'll happily neglect this. It really doesn't make much of a difference when I do the same with a fretted F4.
AFAIK most jazzies prefer lighter gauge strings, because they are easier to bend and have a mellower sound.
Heavy gauge is used for strumming because you won't do delicate fingerwork and get lots of overtones, making your strummed chords sound even fuller.
Basically every successive higher string has more overtones than the previous. That doesn't seem too surprising.
I've experiented with alternate tunings on my guitar but if you tune the strings of a concert guitar more than two semitones above standard tuning the instrument begins to sound thin and harsh because the added tension inhibits too many lower resonances.
Let's not move the goal posts here.
Did some of you tried blind tests on 432 vs 440? Definitely it should be the first step before going into discussion