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overburning ...

I need to combine two CDs into a single one. The total is slighly above 80 minutes, so I'll need to overburn (I use the standard capacity CD-R's.

Now, I normally use two packages: Alcohol 120% and EAC, for both ripping and burning. Alcohol 120% does overburn, worked fine for me, but I have no idea how to combine CDs with Alcohol 120%. It works but creating a RAW DUMP of the whole CD, and then I can burn the CD from the raw dump. Works fine, but seems like it's only useful to creating identical copies. Doesn't look like I can merge two raw dumps. Works fine with a single CD. I've managed to copy a single CD, total length something like 80 minutes 15 seconds. Alcohol issues a warning that it will use overburn mode, you have to confirm, then it just does it.

EAC OTOH does it track by track, but seems like it can't do overburn. So I can combine track from both CDs, no problem here, but the total may not exceed a max capacity of a standard CD-R.  Or, at least, I can't see how I can get around this in EAC.

Any suggestions? Any other software you would recommend?

TIA.

PPJ.

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Reply #2 –
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...

Anyway, there are those 99 mins CDs, have you tried them?

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Reply #3 –
Nero can also overburn.

Quote from: kwanbis on
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...

Anyway, there are those 99 mins CDs, have you tried them?


But they are usually recognized as 80 minutes CDs by the units and you can access the rest by enabling overburning which the poster has problems with. What you say is true if overburning itself works, but the CD-Rs are too small. Also, bear in mind that not all optical units can write or read those discs because of the very narrow spiral towards the end of the disc.

Another way how to store more than the regular 700 MB is to use a true Plextor drive with GigaRec. Wondering why other manufacturers didn't implement this already - is the technology patented by Plextor?

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Reply #4 –
Quote from: greynol on
Have you tried using a cue sheet with Alcohol 120%?


No, I don't even know if Alcohol supports that.  Do you? The only way I use Alcohol 120% is dump the whole thing in the raw mode, and then burn the dump into CD-R.

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: kwanbis on
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...

Anyway, there are those 99 mins CDs, have you tried them?


Thanks. No, I did not. I've heard some CD players have problems with those media over 80 minutes. Want to stick with the standard 80 min. No players ever had any problems with overburned CDs though. And I need only a few seconds (well, may be close to one minitue) over the standard 80 min.

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Reply #8 –
Quote from: porky_pig_jr on
Quote from: Sebastian Mares on
Nero can also overburn.


Thanks, I'll take a look at Nero.


Yes I've overburnt plenty of times with Nero without problems. (BTW, you have to tick the "enable overburn" checkbox in advanced preferences in Nero 6).

If you want freeware then both ImgBurn and Burrrn can overburn too (no need to enable anything they do it automatically, so be careful not to over do it.) I found ImgBurn a bit awkward to use (non intuitive and I had to google for a tutorial before I could figure out how to burn an audio disc, though once I found the tutorial it was easy enough).  Burrrn on the other hand is specifically for burning audio, so it's very easy to use. Just use a CD ripping tool of your choice to get the audio CD's into wav (or other lossless format) first and then either of the above freeware will burn (or overburn) your audio CD just fine.

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: porky_pig_jr on
Quote from: kwanbis on
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...

Anyway, there are those 99 mins CDs, have you tried them?


Thanks. No, I did not. I've heard some CD players have problems with those media over 80 minutes. Want to stick with the standard 80 min. No players ever had any problems with overburned CDs though. And I need only a few seconds (well, may be close to one minitue) over the standard 80 min.


I've also read lots about how these are "no good" but personally I've been using 90 minute CD's for a long while and they've been very reliable. They play in my car and even play on my old stand-alone player that is often very picky. I don't use them all the time but they really come in handy from time to time when you really want to squeeze a bit more onto a CD. I use them a lot in my car CD player because it cant play mp3's, so I figure if I have to stick with old fashioned CDA then I might as well fit as many songs per CD as possible.

It's important to note that while (in Nero) you have to select "over-burn" to burn these discs past 80min it's not actually an over-burn at all. This is just Nero not understanding the 90 minute limit and so calling it an over-burn. Because these discs have the data on a tighter spiral they fit the 90 minutes of data without exceeding the normal head movement of the CD drive.

Note that I've never tried the 99 minute discs so I cant comment on them, but the 90 min ones I tried are good.

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Reply #10 –
Probably i mean 90 mins

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Reply #11 –
Quote from: kwanbis on
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...


Me neither (and haven't posted here in ages)

I know for a fact that most CD's will overburn to 81 minutes without any problems. I used to do this quite a lot back in 2002-2003 with Taiyo Yudens and Verbatim and a bunch of no-name CDs (but most likely their manufacturers are not the same). They still read fine. Some brands could be overburnt to 82 minutes and 10 or so seconds, but it was a process of trial and error.

What I mean by this is that overburning 15 seconds, as you mean to will probably be just fine. I would recommend using ImgBurn since it is free and can verify written data.

Happy overburnin'
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Reply #12 –
Quote from: AtaqueEG on
Quote from: kwanbis on
Wow, CDs! Haven't used them in a while ...


Me neither (and haven't posted here in ages)

I know for a fact that most CD's will overburn to 81 minutes without any problems. I used to do this quite a lot back in 2002-2003 with Taiyo Yudens and Verbatim and a bunch of no-name CDs (but most likely their manufacturers are not the same). They still read fine. Some brands could be overburnt to 82 minutes and 10 or so seconds, but it was a process of trial and error.

What I mean by this is that overburning 15 seconds, as you mean to will probably be just fine. I would recommend using ImgBurn since it is free and can verify written data.

Happy overburnin'


Oh I wish I could also say "haven't used them in a while". Dammed car CD player grrrr.

Personally I've never tested the limits of overburning so I'm pretty conservative. My rule of thumb thus far has been to overburn if it's only over the nominal limit by one minute or less. I think the biggest overburn I've ever done was about 1 min 30 sec, so I haven't pushed the limits.