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  • Nicos
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Reply #350
Hi there vorbis fans
Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release?

  • alter4
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Reply #351
With news or without It looks like vorbis is dead anyway. At least in regard of actively improvement the quality of the codec.

  • lvqcl
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Reply #352
AoTuV is too mature to be "actively improved" IMHO.

  • alter4
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Reply #353
The best measure of the maturity degree  is tests like these ;-)
  • Last Edit: 29 December, 2009, 03:52:07 AM by alter4

  • HotshotGG
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Reply #354
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Hi there vorbis fans smile.gif
Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release?


Everything in the AoTuV tunings will be merged into the main line source for the next major release of libvorbis 1.3.0. That's about it. On top of that an HA forum member compiled an SSE Optimized version of AoTuV tunings and created a 32-bit x86 Linux compile that's about 3x faster then the standard build.

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The best measure of the maturity degree is tests like these ;-)


This test does not appear to be a very good indication of anything? This "added noise" everyone talks about is called "Noise Normalization". It's trivial for the lower quality values. It's not used beyond a -q 6. I am not of the impression that one should just keep tuning the encoder consistently as it may cause regressions especially if everything is not double checked and implemented in the mainline after further testing. I am not stating that AoTuV tunings are not very good, because they are. I am just stating there is possibility that might happen with some samples sometimes.
  • Last Edit: 29 December, 2009, 09:35:54 AM by HotshotGG
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  • jamesbaud
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Reply #355
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Hi there vorbis fans smile.gif
Aoyumi seems little quiet lately, does anyone of you has any news about the upcoming release?


Everything in the AoTuV tunings will be merged into the main line source for the next major release of libvorbis 1.3.0. That's about it. On top of that an HA forum member compiled an SSE Optimized version of AoTuV tunings and created a 32-bit x86 Linux compile that's about 3x faster then the standard build.


Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released?

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Reply #356
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Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released?


It depends on what projects Xiph is working on and what coincides with their schedule. I would think Monty would be the only one merging the tunings into the main branch, but he is still busy working on Theora. Unless the job is left up to someone else now or another contributor I am really not sure. I wouldn't put a time stamp on anything though! 
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Reply #357
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100314] (wip) released 
*Probably "wip" mean "Work In Progress".

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This is a test version including an important change of a plan included in in a next version.
[ Limit Quality -2/-1/0 ]

With fixed bug of "-ignore_length" in venc.
And, don't use less or equal -q-1 on 32kHz, libvorbis is buggy 

download: http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/test.html
  • Last Edit: 14 March, 2010, 03:06:12 PM by madoka@ex-sounds
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  • Xanikseo
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Reply #358
Great ! Very happy to see progress however slight!!

Can't wait until this is properly released with source code and all.
  • Last Edit: 15 March, 2010, 05:42:33 PM by Xanikseo

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Reply #359
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Any idea when libvorbis 1.3.0 will be released?


It depends on what projects Xiph is working on and what coincides with their schedule. I would think Monty would be the only one merging the tunings into the main branch, but he is still busy working on Theora. Unless the job is left up to someone else now or another contributor I am really not sure. I wouldn't put a time stamp on anything though! 


For various reasons,  a number of bug fixes and coupled surround support bumped their way way to the head of the line ahead of the AoTuV merge work.  I'm pointing this out here just so no one will think that the work isn't happening— it just hasn't happened yet.



  • Nicos
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Reply #360
Xiph's and aotuv's work is always appreciated, and is always good to hear positive news about aotuv's .ogg project 
I hope that day won't be far away

We all looking forward for the next release


  • Xanikseo
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Reply #361
New version of aoTuV released. Click

Download from here.

Woot! 5.1 aotuv!

EDIT: Is anyone else getting problems trying to encode at any quality setting above q0? It just defaults to q0, no matter what you tell it to do!
EDIT2: Apparently it's already been answered. I have to say I find this ridiculous!
  • Last Edit: 17 May, 2010, 12:40:24 PM by Xanikseo

  • icedtea
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Reply #362
will wait for john33

  • Nicos
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Reply #363
How do you know Xanikseo that it just defaults to q0?
Is it mentioned anywhere?
lets hold on and wait to see what other guys would say

  • capma
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Reply #364
From aoTuV 20100516.txt

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[ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1 ]

If you try to encode with some other quality, it defaults to 0.
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  • Nicos
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Reply #365
From aoTuV 20100516.txt

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[ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1 ]

If you try to encode with some other quality, it defaults to 0.

Hmmm guess we need to wait longer for the proper version then

  • Mgz
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Reply #366
from Monty blog, aoTuv is getting merge to the Vorbis main trunk soon

also the new WebM announcement from Google is a really good news to Vorbis, maybe more hardware player will support it now  , things are getting excited again

wow my last visit was: Jan 16 2008, 12:47, it has been awhile, kinda quiet in the audio front lately.
  • Last Edit: 31 May, 2010, 02:13:28 AM by Mgz
still LAME 3.96.1 --preset extreme -q 0 -V 0 -m s at least until 2005.

  • Nicos
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Reply #367
give us links

you got any links to the websites you are refering to so we can read also?

  • towolf
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Reply #368
give us links

you got any links to the websites you are refering to so we can read also?


I would call that anything but »soon«:

http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/50683.html...=138235#t138235

  • lvqcl
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Reply #369
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100711] (for tester)

Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2

http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/test.html

  • Xanikseo
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Reply #370
Good good keep the updates coming, I'm looking forward to a full release with source code and all . I see slowly more q values are being accepted, now we're up to q2. Hopefully it won't take too long to accept all values of q up to 10...

  • OggY68
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Reply #371
I ABX tested this latest test build against the killer samples found at the following thread started by sauvage78:
Multi-Codec Listening Tests

At q2 I could still easily ABX the Autechre, Abfahrt and Kraftwerk samples. Especially Autechre I could ABX at every try.


  • lvqcl
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Reply #372
Cranberries___zombie_partial2 is also easy at -q2.

  • rt87
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Reply #373
aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100718] (for tester)
aoTuV [20100718] (r510) [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2 ]
Sorry for my English.

  • Aoyumi
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Reply #374
I ABX tested this latest test build against the killer samples found at the following thread started by sauvage78:
Multi-Codec Listening Tests

At q2 I could still easily ABX the Autechre, Abfahrt and Kraftwerk samples. Especially Autechre I could ABX at every try.

Unfortunately I do not make those samples a target this time.
Therefore, I may not anticipate the so big improvement with those samples.

Cranberries___zombie_partial2 is also easy at -q2.

In comparison with the former (beta) version, how?
You please tell me about it if you feel that it is bad than before.

aoTuV post-beta5.7 [20100718] (for tester)
aoTuV [20100718] (r510) [ Limit Quality -2/-1/0/1/2 ]

This is a bugfix version of "20100711".
The new problem by the specific pattern in the previous version was fixed.
  • Last Edit: 18 July, 2010, 01:31:35 PM by Aoyumi