The last thing Ogg Vorbis needs now is Ogg Vorbis II, it would fragment its already small market share.>they work on it someting like a hobby... probably they don't even> know the potential that their codecs have in the world... is a shame...You would expect more enthusiasm if it was a hobby, atleast someone would spend a Saturday afternoon on it.To sum up Ogg Vorbis, it is a ship without a captain, with engine trouble, there are a few people in the boiler room auToV, Blacksword, etc hammering away to keep the engines turning, but with no one up on the bridge, that ship is not going anywhere.
Quote from: clb3092 on 04 March, 2007, 03:04:56 AMI just know that the last version sounds great! When I play back q8.5 recordings on my audio U3 I can hear things like the natural tones of the instruments of great jazz players such as Charlie Mingus or Winston Marsillas. It sure as hell kicks MP3's ass and I honestly can't say if 320kbs AAC is better. No bad for a free lossy codec.It's good to see that you're enthousiastic about the developments, but I have to call TOS#8 here - if you make a statement like this, you need proof (ie, ABX test results).
I just know that the last version sounds great! When I play back q8.5 recordings on my audio U3 I can hear things like the natural tones of the instruments of great jazz players such as Charlie Mingus or Winston Marsillas. It sure as hell kicks MP3's ass and I honestly can't say if 320kbs AAC is better. No bad for a free lossy codec.
Since Vorbis is an open format, 3rd party support should never wane, so Rockbox will at least ensure its availability on DAPs in the foreseeable future.
I did use the personal pronoun "I" in the original post. Now if I had used the third person impersonal "it" in the original post (ex: "It is clear that 320kbs..." or "It has been shown that 320kbs...") you would be correct.
Hi! I just wanted to say there's currently some noise in the vorbis-dev mailing list. Mostly about multichannel coupling and a possible Ambisonics extension to the "standard".
Today I was checking RareWares' links page to find broken links, and happened upon Xiph's page. I noticed the "news" there were 3-4 years old.
Ghost is somewhat being designed by Christopher Montgomery (Vorbis) and Jean-Marc Valin (Speex), the problem is that Valin wants that Ghost take another direction that Monty wants, but no, Speex II is not Speex with Vorbis I psymodel... AFAIK Speex 1.2 will have the vorbis psymodel.Maybe Valin can help to clear the things about Ghost?
The issue is not Xiph's projects being dead, it is Xiph itself looking dead.
I wish Monty would be like Josh for FLAC.
...Monty cannot finish anything. He just starts everything, but cannot see it through.
you might know of this encoder called lame... notice any fancy official homepage (with binaries) for it?
And they would sort of be pissed off if those sort of programs defaulted to "ogg vorbis".
it will never be able to compete with AAC no matter how good it is.
It's top of the league in quality (for mono and stereo only, at this point admittedly) and it gives me a feelgood feeling philosophically.