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PerfectRip

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=199890

I don't really know whether it is secure (it seems to rely on C2 reports and does not try to re-read problematic sectors) but it looks interesting. Especially because it is coming from the guy who kicked off the "EAC is wrong by 30 samples" thing.

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Some of the features:

-Reading speed setting.
-Raw and packed (corrected) subchannel reading.
-C2 error reporting with offset correction.
-Image (main, sub and cue) and wav format output.
-Main channel offset correction in samples/bytes.
-User entered and auto detected subchannel offset correction.
-C2 pointer report bit order adjustment.
-Burst vs one read length per read command.
-Highly descriptive log output.
-MCN (UPC/EAN), ISRC, CD-TEXT reading.
-Sub & C2 alternative order setting.
-Accurate song/gap detection/extraction.

PerfectRip

Reply #2 –
I don't think I'll ever need to switch from EAC - but if that app will allow offset corrected and secure ripping for bin/cue images (for creating 1:1 backups of older games that used both cd data and cd audio), as well as offset corrected burning for such images, then it will have a place on my HD for sure.

PerfectRip

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Fandango on
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Yeah well, not much there. I can announce an app too, only it's of little use without at least an alpha...

http://perfectrip.cdfreaks.com/

Well, at least it got its own place at cdfreaks already. But he's almost one month late with his first public release...

Heh, not surprising.

PerfectRip

Reply #6 –
Wow, that sounds to me like a really nice specialised image ripping app, with some very advanced options incorporated  To me, then a feature that i would appreciate added, would be support for re-reading the sectors where bytes have been flaged by C2 pointer bits(and taking C2 pointers into account also during the re-reads), instead og having to check the status report for returned C2 pointers and then re-ripping manually if needed. Also, if it isn't doing that allready, then freedb lookup support and adding extra metadata as REM entries into the cuesheets, would be very nice to.

Thanks mate, for reporting this exciting news announcement here  It's really nice to have alternatives to choose between when it comes to secure rippers suporting image/cuesheet ripping  Unfortunetly, then i'm so addicted to the automation and effeciency of the REACT plugin, that i don't think that i would be able to consider anything else than EAC, but even though EAC's secure mode routines isn't the best in the world, then i'm personally not too paranoid about missed consistent errors and am personally very happy with EAC, but nonetheless, interesting news indeed

PerfectRip

Reply #7 –
Well, I think PerfectRip's "dumb" approach of ripping main and sub-channels alike (even with a twist, recognising their offset skew) is interesting.

But then I think secure ripping is much more important than a true 1:1 copy of even the sub-channel data. EAC reads CD-TEXT, ISRC and so on independently and stores this information in the cue sheet, later when writing the rip back to a CD-R the sub-channel gets built from scratch with this data. PerfectRip simply writes the main (audio) and sub-channels with corrected offsets and all that as is. The resulting copy should therefore have the exact same CD-TEXT, UPN/EAN number, ISRC, MSF, CIRC, and what not... many copy-protected audio CDs should be no problem. in fact the copy-protection doesn't get removed in the first place... which could be a legal problem, since breaking a copyprotection is illegal in some countries, but then the copy-protection wasn't removed, merely copied as well. That's tricky.

Anyway, 1:1 copies of not just the audio are nice, especially for mixed mode CDs, but without handling of damaged discs it's not really practical. Ideally the tool should be a secure ripper and can store the rip in a format so that its contents can be accessed by a majority of applications on the PC itself without having to write the rip back to a CD-R. And of course the user must be able to write all the different formats PerfectRip might be able to produce back to a CD-R without much hassle. So at least conversion tool (to produce offset corrected img+sub specially for the writer used) for all formats would be a minium requirement.

I think his older toolset Xpert tools has accomplished many of these things (but not the secure ripping thing, seems like he wants you to use external secure rippers like Plextools for problematic discs?). PerfectRip seems to be the attempt to combine all three tools and more in a user-friendly app. So the knowledge and basic development is already there although some people seem to doubt that.

PerfectRip

Reply #8 –
Damn . . . I was thinking of posting this last night, but though "Nah . . . I'll do it tomorrow". Oops . . .

Anyhow, it does look interesting at the very least, and I'm looking forward to trying it out!

PerfectRip

Reply #9 –
Hope it will be open source...

PerfectRip

Reply #10 –
I doubt it.

PerfectRip

Reply #11 –
I have a beta of it here. It didn't work for me (it tries to start ripping, and then hangs, and locks the CD drive tray), but then again, I couldn't get to configure it properly. You need to be a frikkin' rocket scientist to figure out the configurations :B



Yes, the interface is horrid. I'm trying to convince them to give up the blue background and get themselves a less visually polluted logo.


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Hope it will be open source...


From what I talked to one of the developers, they want to first get it out of the door, and only then start worrying about making it open source or not.

PerfectRip

Reply #14 –
That dialog just screams for some dancing hampsters up and down the left side (yes, I know I misspelled that).

Seriously though, I hope there is some good technology behind this. Could be a useful tool.

PerfectRip

Reply #16 –
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From what I talked to one of the developers, they want to first get it out of the door, and only then start worrying about making it open source or not.
Cool. Just re-read what you actually said: "or not"?  So if it's not OSS we are stuck with that UI and there's no hope for a redesign by a third party?!?

PerfectRip

Reply #17 –
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Cool. Just re-read what you actually said: "or not"?  So if it's not OSS we are stuck with that UI and there's no hope for a redesign by a third party?!?

Come on, I'm using a beta. I'm sure that they will change that visual apocalypse if enough people complain, once their ripper is released. Or maybe they will change it before the release...

PerfectRip

Reply #18 –
I was exaggerating... joking.

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: rjamorim on
From what I talked to one of the developers, they want to first get it out of the door, and only then start worrying about making it open source or not.

Kinda strange politic: releasing the sources could help it to grow fast and efficiently... 

PerfectRip

Reply #20 –
I like the icon; 3 WinXP icons slapped over each other
Les mots d'amour...

PerfectRip

Reply #21 –
Quote from: PatchWorKs on
Quote from: rjamorim on
From what I talked to one of the developers, they want to first get it out of the door, and only then start worrying about making it open source or not.

Kinda strange politic: releasing the sources could help it to grow fast and efficiently... 

Maybe it's weird to you, but they're not the only ones handling it this way...  http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=52212

PerfectRip

Reply #22 –
I know that when I develop something, its my baby until it is done. At that point i'm cool with handing it over, but (for instance) Omni Encoder didn't get the source posted until it was finished.

When you release source, you're also sort of obligated to make sure it is documented properly, and you have to be ready/willing to answer questions.

If they say they plan on releasing the source later, then shut up about it until later.

PerfectRip

Reply #23 –
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When you release source, you're also sort of obligated to make sure it is documented properly, and you have to be ready/willing to answer questions.

If they say they plan on releasing the source later, then shut up about it until later.
Exactly what you have to tell the people over and over again.