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  • Synthetic Soul
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Reply #50
Please don't post links to unofficial Nero installers in this thread.  It seems a little bad form.
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Reply #51
Please don't post links to unofficial Nero installers in this thread.  It seems a little bad form.


Sorry Synth, but  Nero becomed BLOATware ! 

I don't like their contemporary marketing strategy... tastes like MS-one. 

Why no more separated packages ? 
  • Last Edit: 21 September, 2006, 05:39:45 AM by PatchWorKs

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Reply #52
I'm not in favour of Ahead's strategy either.  I think downloading over 100MB for a minor upgrade is just insane.

However, in a thread which annouces a new version, and considering this forum benefits from the insight given to us by Nero developers, I just think it's "impolite" to link to unofficial alternatives.

Hopefully, if enough people make their concern known about the official installer, Ahead may change their mind sometime in the future.
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Reply #53
Synthetic Soul: Ahead went ahead and renamed themselfs, and in the process destroyed the punchline of so many great jokes. Damn you Ahead Nero!
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Reply #54
 Oops!  Shows how much I follow current events...

Thanks for the info. 
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Reply #55
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I'm not in favour of Ahead's strategy either. I think downloading over 100MB for a minor upgrade is just insane.


Nero Mobile will be available separately very soon from our website.

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Reply #56
I'm not in favour of Ahead's strategy either.  I think downloading over 100MB for a minor upgrade is just insane.


Go to Nero ProductSetup and press update. I had to download only 38MB.

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Reply #57

I'm not in favour of Ahead's strategy either.  I think downloading over 100MB for a minor upgrade is just insane.


Go to Nero ProductSetup and press update. I had to download only 38MB.

I've tried that several times. Just tried it again and this time it gets past 1. Connecting (it didn't previously) and gets to 2. Checking Engine then returns to the Nero ProductSetUp main screen without going through the other steps. So I think, OK, maybe it knows I now need updates and this is done through Modify your Nero Products option. I click Next. It crashes "Error applying transforms. Verify that the specified transforms paths are valid".

Nero ProductSetup doesn't work for me.
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Reply #58

I'm not in favour of Ahead's strategy either.  I think downloading over 100MB for a minor upgrade is just insane.


Go to Nero ProductSetup and press update. I had to download only 38MB.

Heh, last time I tried that, it f*cked up my installation and I had to completely reinstall Nero.
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Reply #59
Hmm, I seem to have a different ProductSetup than the one in the manual on the web. I guess I already had a version 7.5 here, this ProductSetup seems to work fine for me.

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Reply #60
Hey Garf,
Can you please tell us why Nero has become such bloatware and the Burning Rom is not available just by itself?
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Reply #61
Hmm, I seem to have a different ProductSetup than the one in the manual on the web. I guess I already had a version 7.5 here, this ProductSetup seems to work fine for me.

So you were upgrading from version 7.5 to version 7.5 and you only had to download 38MB... Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
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Reply #62

Hmm, I seem to have a different ProductSetup than the one in the manual on the web. I guess I already had a version 7.5 here, this ProductSetup seems to work fine for me.

So you were upgrading from version 7.5 to version 7.5 and you only had to download 38MB... Yeah, that makes perfect sense.


My Common/Ahead/DSFilter is usually completely different than what can be downloaded from the web. That already accounts for 22MB I guess.
But I gues you will have to wait at least a month to see if the new ProductSetup works for you.

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Reply #63
Hey Garf,
Can you please tell us why Nero has become such bloatware and the Burning Rom is not available just by itself?
Cheers
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Reply #64
For those who don't know, WinLibre@SoC bringed us Infra Recorder, that is just 1,3 Mb.

whooops... can i post this kind of links ? 
  • Last Edit: 21 September, 2006, 10:17:32 AM by PatchWorKs

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Reply #65
Please don't post links to unofficial Nero installers in this thread.  It seems a little bad form.


To the best of my understanding, those "lite" installers, no matter how handy they are, are in violation of Nero's copyright and license, and hence illegal. Posting them here will just get your post removed and a warning.
  • Last Edit: 21 September, 2006, 12:35:23 PM by Garf

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Reply #66
We'll fix this AVC oversize bug as soon as possible, but the problem is in the low-level encoder implementation. Looks like a recent update to the Ateme AVC codec which was put to the release compilation was buggy unfortunately. We are waiting for Ateme at the moment.
I'll let you know when more information is available.
  • Last Edit: 21 September, 2006, 03:37:20 PM by JohnV
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Reply #67
I hate to bug, especially about a question I already asked but, when is Windows Vista compatibility coming?  I saw on Nero's website that they are early adopters of the Windows Vista compatibility program yet their software package is still incompatible.  I enjoy Nero 7 as I use Nero Burning ROM, Nero Recode 2, Nero ShowTime, and a couple other Nero apps here and there.  It would be a shame not to run Neo 7 on my Vista powered notebook.

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Reply #68
To the best of my understanding, those "lite" installers, no matter how handy they are, are in violation of Nero's copyright and license, and hence illegal. Posting them here will just get your post removed and a warning.


Yes, my warn level is 33% now. 

...it was a sort of "civil" pacific disobedience (wanna remember you that lite installer is NOT warez, you must have a valid license anyway) 'cause we have some Ahead developers here.

Now they are able to unchain their lawyers against license infringers  !!!
  • Last Edit: 22 September, 2006, 11:16:38 AM by PatchWorKs

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Reply #69

To the best of my understanding, those "lite" installers, no matter how handy they are, are in violation of Nero's copyright and license, and hence illegal. Posting them here will just get your post removed and a warning.

You mean those Nero Lite Installer that can be found on Softpedia ? They seem to be quite usefull, and are easy to find using Google.
If only it was part of the regular installer...


  Yes, very usefull indeed, as many of us know! But have you read what I proposed in this other (somehow related) thread about the feasibility of a custom uninstaller, to get rid of all the bloat and not risk to be sued and not even warned? 

I don't have the knowledge to write it, but I swear if I had I'll do it, and anyway I will happly help testing or in any other way if somebody else volunteer to develop it.

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Reply #70
Hmm, I seem to have a different ProductSetup than the one in the manual on the web. I guess I already had a version 7.5 here, this ProductSetup seems to work fine for me.
So you were upgrading from version 7.5 to version 7.5 and you only had to download 38MB... Yeah, that makes perfect sense.


For those who don't know, WinLibre@SoC bringed us Infra Recorder, that is just 1,3 Mb.

whooops... can i post this kind of links ? 
Great news! I'll add it to HA Wiki's Download Page ... and while I'm there... I'm reeeeeeaaalllllyyyy tempted to change Nero's description to "Bloated Windows Commercial CD Writing Application"...

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Reply #71
Yes, my warn level is 33% now. 

...it was a sort of "civil" pacific disobedience (wanna remember you that lite installer is NOT warez, you must have a valid license anyway) 'cause we have some Ahead developers here.


Ah, but depending on the wording of the license, it is quite possible you would then be in breach of that license, even if you had purchased one.

That's beside the point however.  The deletion/warning action was about liability.  Much of HA's topics are ones that big companies and their lawyers aren't too happy about (e.g. ripping in general), whether legal in your region (most regions) or not.  It is for the sake of the forum, it's administrators, and it's users that there is this kind of enforcement:  so that certain lines aren't crossed in discussion, especially regarding copyrights (and related issues such as DRM), that might lead to legal entanglements.

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Reply #72

To the best of my understanding, those "lite" installers, no matter how handy they are, are in violation of Nero's copyright and license, and hence illegal. Posting them here will just get your post removed and a warning.

You mean those Nero Lite Installer that can be found on Softpedia ? They seem to be quite usefull, and are easy to find using Google.
If only it was part of the regular installer...

The fact that something is on Softpedia doesn't really mean it's legal. I know from personal experience. 

But anyway, yeah, that Lite installer is great.
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Reply #73
The fact that something is on Softpedia doesn't really mean it's legal. I know from personal experience. 

But anyway, yeah, that Lite installer is great.

That doesn't seems official, or is it?

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Reply #74
wanna remember you that lite installer is NOT warez, you must have a valid license anyway


This doesn't make it any less illegal. It most definetely is warez.

Here's a thought: I have some free software (not in the GPL sense) on my webpage. Can you redistribute that on your webpage without my permission? You sure as hell CAN NOT. Copyright still applies.
  • Last Edit: 22 September, 2006, 01:11:05 PM by Garf