As far as I know noone is working on it, so the question makes no sense.
Another proposed solution, which is being favored at the moment, is for all codecs (except for Vorbis I, for backwards compatibility) to use start-time for granulepos.
There was a possible hack for OggWrit, xiph's subtitle format, to solve this problem, but afaik xiph ppl were going to update the Ogg format itself, not just using an ad-hoc hack, to make it more flexible; even so, they were not going to change Vorbis I, as an exception, for backwards compatibility, because it was already very widely used.In other words, if there was "Vorbis II" it would be probably not backword-comaptible.But that's just hypothetical.
Quote from: Garf on 19 April, 2006, 07:42:23 AMAs far as I know noone is working on it, so the question makes no sense.I thought I remembered reading a while back about it being worked on, that it would streamline the decoding so it would take up fewer resources...
It seems to me, like if all Xiph.org projects were dead. Almost nobody is working on Vorbis, Theora isn't moving any further and has really low quality. And I haven't heard any news about FLAC and Speex neither.
[Will Vorbis 2.0 be backwards compatible?]topic says it all.
It seems to me, like if all Xiph.org projects were dead. Almost nobody is working on Vorbis...
Quote from: vlada on 22 April, 2006, 03:09:45 AMIt seems to me, like if all Xiph.org projects were dead. Almost nobody is working on Vorbis, Theora isn't moving any further and has really low quality. And I haven't heard any news about FLAC and Speex neither.Thanks for making me realize that Windows was dead as well (I mean, the last release was 2001!). Oh, and BTW, the last Speex release was 2 months ago, but I'm sorry I didn't announce it to you personally. If you leave your phone number, I'll call you before the next release, promise!
Btw. What will be new in libogg2?
jorsol> I posted my answer before I saw your post. I know that Ayoumi is tuning Vorbis encoder, but it seems to me like if he's the only one working on it.
Have you seen Doom9's codec comparison? I think Theora needs a lot of work before it can compete with XviD. In all four main aspects - Quality, Speed, Size accuracy and usability.
* 1.1 Optimize Theora encoding/decoding speed, SSE/SSE2 * 1.2 Theora reference encoder quality optimization * 1.3 Encode support in theora-exp * 1.4 Development assistant for the "Ghost" audio codec * 1.5 OggMNG implementation * 1.6 Subtitle Editor * 1.7 OggSkeleton tool support * 1.8 MXF support in gstreamer * 1.9 Hardware implementation of Theora decoding * 1.10 Ogg Dirac mapping and integration in players * 1.11 Intel to AT&T x86 assembly translation...This is a draft proposal for Google Summer of Code projects with Xiph.org.
Liisachan> First of all sorry to Aoyumi for misspelling his name, I know his name, just misspelled it. Unfortunately I don't know about Lancer. I'm not so much involved in audio compression formats. But I know more about video compression (you've probaly seen me at doom9). I always do some tests myself if I want to prove something. And I was really thinking about OGG Theora for distributing video.
I work for official webpages of an ice-hockey club in our city. I want to set up a new and better multimedia part of the web. But unfortunately I need all people to be able to playback my video files withou to much effort from their site. This is the main point where my idea about OGG/Theora/Vorbis failed. I think that the support for end users sould be also one of points that Xiph should concentrate in.
yes... Microsoft will never add native support for Ogg (or others open formats) but you can always download illiminable directshow filters, and have great support for Ogg codecs on all directshow players including Windows Media Player (that BTW sucks)....