So back in the late 80's I bought Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti CD and boy was I ever dissapointed. The fidelity was horrible. It sounded like someone ran it through an EQ and made the sliders look like a bell curve. No low end to speak of and the highs weren't any better. I A/B'ed it against the LP I had and the difference was night and day. The LP was crisp and clear with good bass. Well I've gotten back into this album but even after running it through some EQ I'm still not happy with the results. My question is, has anyone purchased this album recently and if so, what is your opinion of the quality.PS. I know the first thing I'm going to hear is if I have A/B'ed it recently. I have not. I don't have a turntable anymore but if anyone questions what I'm hearing, I would be glad to post a small sample for you to listen to.
The album was remastered again 1994, it sounds even better then the box set remaster.
Quote from: chelrob on 10 April, 2006, 02:43:16 AMThe album was remastered again 1994, it sounds even better then the box set remaster.I remember I looked at this since I had almost all the studio album of the 1994 remasters. They have indentical replaygain numbers with the boxset, which I also own. I did not do bit comparison, because it was obvious that they must be extremely similar.
You say that the earier releases have slightly lower level. How much lower approximately? Less than a 1dB?
i have this CD....sounds just fine.
Quote from: Triza on 11 April, 2006, 10:31:36 AMYou say that the earier releases have slightly lower level. How much lower approximately? Less than a 1dB?Yes, less than 1dB. There's more details of what I did included as part of this earlier thread.But to briefly summarise, I concentrated mainly on the track "Good Times Bad Times":Remasters: replaygain = -5.67; peak(L/R) = -0.4/-0.510CD set: replygain = -6.18; peak(L/R) = 0/0After normalising the remasters to peak at 0/0, the RMS levels were close but subtly different: -14.6/-14.2 for Remasters and -14.1/-14.4 for the 10CD set.
1990 1993Box CSR Track Diff.-4.12 -7.31 Custard Pie 3.19-4.62 -7.14 Houses of the Holy 2.52-4.88 -6.37 In My Time of Dying 1.49-4.40 -4.93 In the Light 0.53-5.35 -5.86 Kashmir 0.51-4.07 -4.68 Ten Years Gone 0.61-4.29 -6.07 The Wanton Song 1.78-5.78 -7.33 Trampled Under Foot 1.55
Not sure the guy on SH.tv is talking about replaygain value differences, though I'm grateful to have that data. Can you post RMS avg and peak values for the crop circle tracks? I can generate them for the 10-CDbox versions.
When I get home tonight I'll measure some peak and RMS levels for a variety of Crop Cricle and 10CD box tracks (unless someone else posts the data before then).
Babe I'm Gonna Leave YouPeak Amplitude: -1.22 dB -.7 dBAverage RMS Power: -19.02 dB -18.3 dBCelebration DayPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.3 dB -16.65 dBCommunication BreakdownPeak Amplitude: -.45 dB -.74 dBAverage RMS Power: -15.72 dB -15.14 dBDazed And ConfusedPeak Amplitude: -.03 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.38 dB -16.71 dBFriendsPeak Amplitude: -.77 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -19.16 dB -19.02 dBHeartbreakerPeak Amplitude: -.01 dB -.51 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.96 dB -16.74 dBHey Hey What Can I DoPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -18.82 dB -18.67 dBI Can't Quit You BabyPeak Amplitude: 0 dB -.01 dBAverage RMS Power: -18.6 dB -19.5 dBRamble OnPeak Amplitude: -.05 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.31 dB -19.35 dBThank YouPeak Amplitude: -.91 dB -1.46 dBAverage RMS Power: -24.27 dB -23.23 dBTravelling Riverside BluesPeak Amplitude: -.89 dB -.89 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.96 dB -16.96 dBWhat Is And What Should Never BePeak Amplitude: -1.2 dB -.55 dBAverage RMS Power: -21.36 dB -21 dBWhite Summer , Black Mountain SidePeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -23.8 dB -23.8 dBWhole Lotta LovePeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -19.33 dB -19.29 dBYour Time Is Gonna ComePeak Amplitude: -1.23 dB -1.11 dBAverage RMS Power: -18.57 dB -18.31 dB
Black DogPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -17.4 dB -18.15 dBBron-Y-Aur StompPeak Amplitude: -.5 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.22 dB -20.08 dBCustard PiePeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.06 dB -19.66 dBD'yer Mak'erPeak Amplitude: -.04 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.22 dB -19.42 dBGallows PolePeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.11 dB -20.81 dBGoing To CaliforniaPeak Amplitude: -4.9 dB -3.14 dBAverage RMS Power: -21.22 dB -21.36 dBImmigrant SongPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.34 dB -16.76 dBMisty Mountain HopPeak Amplitude: -.92 dB -1.5 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.3 dB -16.5 dBOver The Hills And Far AwayPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -21.65 dB -21.02 dBRock And RollPeak Amplitude: -.78 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -16.28 dB -16.55 dBSince I've Been Loving YouPeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -18.82 dB -19.19 dBStairway To HeavenPeak Amplitude: -1.11 dB -.14 dBAverage RMS Power: -21.45 dB -21.07 dBTangerinePeak Amplitude: 0 dB 0 dBAverage RMS Power: -20.45 dB -20.47 dBThe Battle Of EvermorePeak Amplitude: -4.12 dB -2.4 dBAverage RMS Power: -21.1 dB -19.66 dBThe Rain SongPeak Amplitude: 0 dB -.15 dBAverage RMS Power: -19.72 dB -19.22 dB