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Multiformat Listening Test @ 128 kbps - OPEN
Hello!

I would like to announce the launch of my public, multiformat listening test @ 128 kbps.

The encoders featured are:
  • Nero AAC 3.1.0.2
  • iTunes AAC 6.0.1.3
  • LAME 3.97 Beta 2
  • Ogg Vorbis AoTuV 4.51 Beta
  • WMA Professional 9.1
  • Shine 0.1.4 (Low Anchor)
For further information on how to participate, please visit the test announcement page:
http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf_128_1.php

The test is scheduled to end on December 25th, 2005.

Update: The test was extended to end on January 13th, 2006.

Thank you!

Regards,
Sebastian Mares
  • Last Edit: 31 December, 2005, 02:58:10 PM by Sebastian Mares

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Reply #1
For those using BitTorrent, statistics are available here:

http://www.rarewares.org/tracker/mystats.php

Please use BT whenever possible.

Thanks to Roberto for sharing.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 10:21:58 AM by Sebastian Mares

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Reply #2
Can you reformat the readme.txt file so that it wraps properly?

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Can you reformat the readme.txt file so that it wraps properly?
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347843"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


How many characters per line - 72?

I tried to wrap it around 70 characters. It's a bit more sometimes due to URLs.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 10:59:32 AM by Sebastian Mares

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Reply #4
Just a little note: If you can't hear sound when you press the Play button, try changing the playback device in Options->Settings->Playback. Seems like with some soundcards the default setting won't work.

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Just a little note: If you can't hear sound when you press the Play button, try changing the playback device in Options->Settings->Playback. Seems like with some soundcards the default setting won't work.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347848"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Good advice. For me it defaulted to my capture card, but it is easy to simply change it to primary sound driver.

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Reply #6
aacenc32.dll  ver. 3.1.0.2.  Nero7 has 3.0.0.2.  Is it newer aacenc than from Nero7 package?

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aacenc32.dll  ver. 3.1.0.2.  Nero7 has 3.0.0.2.  Is it newer aacenc than from Nero7 package?
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Yes.

If you click on "Nero AAC 3.1.0.2" on the presentation page, it will let you download a ZIP containing the encoder DLLs. Also, check out [a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38723&view=findpost&p=347563]this[/url] post.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 11:42:41 AM by Sebastian Mares

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Reply #8
I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm

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I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347855"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Ah, nice, thanks. What typos?  And do you mind if I update the ABC-HR_bin.zip file to include your HTML?

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If you click on "Nero AAC 3.1.0.2" on the presentation page, it will let you download a ZIP containing the encoder DLLs. Also, check out this post.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347853"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Thanks. I´ve already noticed that.

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Reply #11
Use it as you like. Be my guest.

Typos (if i remember correctly):
then you in the beginning and extra spaces in the torrent links before the numbers 17 and 18.

Edit: typo 
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 11:49:49 AM by Alex B

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Reply #12
Conduct, conduct, conduct...
Burrrn - http://www.burrrn.net/
MPEG Audio Collection - http://mac.sourceforge.net/

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Use it as you like. Be my guest.

Typos (if i remember correctly):
then you in the beginning and extra spaces in the torrent links before the numbers 17 and 18.

Edit: typo  
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347858"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Ah thanks. Don't know what you mean with the torrent links, though.

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Reply #14
They were like this after I pasted the text file into Dreamweaver:

Sample 17.zip.torrent  TheDraperyFalls
Sample 18.zip.torrent  WhiteAmerica

Perhaps it was something on my side...
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 12:01:28 PM by Alex B

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Reply #15
Sebastian,

The TorrentStorm link in my html is wrong. It has extra html code included and doesn't work. I'll fix it in 5 minutes.


EDIT

I fixed it, but when I tested the link I found this:

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News
30th March 2005.

For personal reasons, I have been unable to continue with the development of Torrentstorm, and have decided that until I can continue with its development, it is best to close this site. Thank you to all who have helped and supported torrentstorms development, and I hope to see you all again soon.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 01:00:49 PM by Alex B

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Sebastian,

The Torrent Storm link in my html is wrong. It has extra html code included and doesn't work. I'll fix it in 5 minutes.
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347866"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


I re-did the HTML using plain HTML 4. No styles, whatsoever.

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Reply #17
I have currently 18 BitTornado clients running. It seems to work, but my web browsing is very sluggish.

Personally I would prefer eMule (and the eD2K & Kad networks it uses).

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I have currently 18 BitTornado clients running. It seems to work, but my web browsing is very sluggish.

Personally I would prefer eMule (and the eD2K & Kad networks it uses).
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

You just need a proper bittorrent client, like:
[a href="http://azureus.sourceforge.net/]Azureus[/url]
BitComet
µTorrent

Oh, and it still says "conduce" everywhere on the pages...
Burrrn - http://www.burrrn.net/
MPEG Audio Collection - http://mac.sourceforge.net/

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Reply #19
Hey, I'm wondering if I should try and participate in this listening test. I have never done anything like this, but I think it should be interesting. Now, in the readme, it says that headphones are a must. I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort, that have noise cancellation. Would they be usable?

And just some advice regarding the bittorrent stuff. You should have put all the sample archives in one torrent file, then it's much easier to seed/leech. For those of you complaining of slow browsing, when you're running bittorrent, you need to limit your upload speed in the client. Now, a good client for windows, that have one window for several torrents, is µTorrent.

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Oh, and it still says "conduce" everywhere on the pages...
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347873"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Ah! Sorry, didn't get that the first time you posted.

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Hey, I'm wondering if I should try and participate in this listening test. I have never done anything like this, but I think it should be interesting. Now, in the readme, it says that headphones are a must. I have a pair of Bose QuietComfort, that have noise cancellation. Would they be usable?
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


I think so, I don't have much experience with headphones.

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And just some advice regarding the bittorrent stuff. You should have put all the sample archives in one torrent file, then it's much easier to seed/leech. For those of you complaining of slow browsing, when you're running bittorrent, you need to limit your upload speed in the client. Now, a good client for windows, that have one window for several torrents, is [a href="http://www.utorrent.com]µTorrent[/url].
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347874"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


I will tell that Roberto he's responsible for hosting the samples and preparing the torrents.

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I made a html version of the readme.txt file. I fixed a couple of typos too.

readme.htm
[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=347855"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


I changed the file again. It has the three mentioned client links.

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Reply #23
Hm ... Why nobody care about final size? It´s already normal.
¨It´s VBR. It´s normal that  real bitrate will be 140 kbit/s while nominal bitrate 128¨
I think it´s normal that audiocodec can produce some deviation from nominal bitrate . But there is difference between final size of files encoded by different  audiocodecs.  Ok , maybe itunes better than nero, but itunes almost always has a bigger file size. Maybe at the same file size the result will be different.

Yes, I´m caring about final size. My mp3player has 256 mb. And If my mp3s will have 264 mb I doubt I can explain point about VBR  to my mp3player.

The same discussion was about  testing of videocodecs. Some videocodecs always produced slightly  bigger size than others. But it´s  not reason to left it as is.  It´s impossible to feat 4600 mb gb to 1 standard DVD 4486 Mb.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 01:56:19 PM by IgorC

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Reply #24
If bittorrent is an issue, they can go as HTTP or FTP downloads on the HA server. Bandwidth shouldn't be an issue, we have enough left.
  • Last Edit: 05 December, 2005, 02:11:29 PM by Garf