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Mp3 to Nero AAC

Hello.
I have short a question for you. My brother is trying to convert some MP3s to Mp4 for an iPod.
I am using Easy CD-DA Extractor. This program has an option for encoding in Nero Mp4. But whan i drag&drop the mp3 into the converting area and push the encode button, the progress line goes and encodes the mp4 in...2 seconds, and gives me no file.
I sad ok, let's try directly from Nero. I just downloaded Nero7 with the "new" encoder (i think it's new).
I go to encode files, select the mp3, the encoding progress is normal, but the resulted mp4 is skipped. Do you have any ideea? Could it be my WIN XP Sp2?
10x

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Reply #1 –
Tell your brother that his iPod plays mp3's just fine and transcoding to mp4 will only degrade the overall quality of his music files.
//From the barren lands of the Northsmen

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Reply #2 –
i asked you something DigitalDictator, you didn't answer me at all
my brother is trying to compress more those mp3. he wants to compress those mp3s to mp4@48k. i have the mp3s @ 320 --alt-preset insane. do you think that an mp3 @ 48k sounds good enough? i don't think so.
i know that this will degrade the quality, but this is what he wants to do. to stick more on his iPod for the car listening.

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Reply #3 –
Foobar will convert from Mp3 to Mp4, but unless you buy Nero you will only have a limited amount of encodes before you have to purchase.  Atleast that is what I assume is happening since I can't encode anymore.  Was kind of just messing around with it this morning, guess was being a little careless with the encodes..



BTW, pretty impressed with what I've heard so far.  I like that they have VBR as an option to encode at low bitrate with PS too.  They have made it where you can get the most bang for the buck at lower bitrates.  Guess only thing they can do now is just keep optimizing on what they have.

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Reply #4 –
Just as a quick and possibly uneducated guess, but at 48Kb mp4, the default is HE-AAC, which the iPod can handle, but it will only play the LC part, am i correct in that thinking? If that is the case the mp4's won't sound  as good as they  do on a HE-AAC aware player.

Kristian

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Reply #5 –
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Just as a quick and possibly uneducated guess, but at 48Kb mp4, the default is HE-AAC, which the iPod can handle, but it will only play the LC part, am i correct in that thinking? If that is the case the mp4's won't sound  as good as they  do on a HE-AAC aware player.

Kristian
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Good point, I don't own IPod so dunno. 

Seems like you could be right that it wouldn't play the SBR info though, from reading some stuff in the past around here.

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Reply #6 –
guys, my brother only wants more music in his car. that's all.
yes, @ 48k the default is HE AAC. but he could change this to LC AAC if he wants to. The point is that he just can't encode right. Last night i have reinstaled Windows. After this i have installed the drivers, Nero7 & Easy CD-DA Extractor 8.2.1.
Directly from Nero 7, same problem with the skipped files. From Easy CD-DA Extractor, i just gives me an error when i push the config button. "AAC dll failed to load" or something like this.
I don't know, but i THINK (i'm not sure) this is something wrong with this new Nero encoder. Maybe Garf could tell us more.

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Reply #7 –
Are you encoding from Nero or from Easy CDDA Extractor? It's quite likely that Easy CDDA Extractor can't deal with the new Nero AAC encoder DLL's.

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Reply #8 –
hy garf. thanx for reply.
if i am encoding with Easy cd-da extractor it gives me that error.
if i am encoding with nero 7 directly, the resulted file is skipped. i mean that the singer sings "i love you" in the original mp3, the resulted mp4 is "i ve you".
yesterday, when i first installed nero 7, easy cdda extractor was working just fine. but i have reinstalled windows xp sp2 last night because of the mp3-mp4 problem in nero.

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Reply #9 –
how many GB is your iPod?
i assume 20GB
for a 320kbps mp3, the space is 2.34375MB per minute
20000/2.34375 = 8533 minutes

assume the avg length per song is 4 min, you can store up to 2133 songs, it is more than enough i suppose......

If you are bored with the 2 thousand plus songs, then delete the old ones and put it the new ones, it won't take you more time than to convert 320kbps mp3s to 48kbps just  to squeez everything into your iPod.

48kbps mp3 is too low! The quality is very very bad, unless speeches.
48kbps He-AAC is not good either...

96~128kbps mp3 is the common bitrate for portables.

well, you can use itunes's encoder, 2X faster encoding speed than Nero

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Reply #10 –
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48kbps He-AAC is not good either...

96~128kbps mp3 is the common bitrate for portables.

well, you can use itunes's encoder, 2X faster encoding speed than Nero
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1) We had a huge flamewar about whether 48kbps HE-AAC is comparable to 96-128kbps MP3. Unless you test the new encoder, I strongly suggest not to make such blanket statements like "48kbps He-AAC is not good"

2) The iTunes encoder does not support HE-AAC.

3) Did you do a _quality_ comparison of iTunes against the new Nero AAC?

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Reply #11 –
Again you are talking about some other stuff.
HE WANTS TO COMPRESS TO 48K!!! THAT'S ALL!!!
Digital Dictator told me the same thing a few post upper. I already told him that the reason why my brother wants that is beyond us.
The point is that he CAN'T DO THIS.
I AM SAYING THAT THIS COULD, MAYBE, BE A BUG FOR NEW NERO AAC ENCODER.
But all you are talking about is use mp3, it sounds better. Really, i didn't know that Lame 3.90.3 --alt-preset insane sounds better than mp4 @ 48k. thanx a lot.

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Reply #12 –
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Again you are talking about some other stuff.
HE WANTS TO COMPRESS TO 48K!!! THAT'S ALL!!!
Digital Doctor told me the same thing a few post upper. I already told him that the reason why my brother wants that is beyond us.
The point is that he CAN'T DO THIS.
I AM SAYING THAT THIS COULD, MAYBE, BE A BUG FOR NEW NERO AAC ENCODER.
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I did a test with dropping some LAME VBR MP3's in Nero 7 and encoding to low bitrate MP4. This worked as expected.

I don't know about Easy CDDA Extractor.

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Reply #13 –
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1) We had a huge flamewar about whether 48kbps HE-AAC is comparable to 96-128kbps MP3. Unless you test the new encoder, I strongly suggest not to make such blanket statements like "48kbps He-AAC is not good"


no no, I'm not comparing 48kbps he-aac to 96kbps mp3, i know they are both different thing, one is SBR and one without SBR, I'm just saying 48kbps he-aac is not sufficient for encoding audio, it sounded pretty fake because of SBR....besides iPod has a large disc space, why not encode higher?

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HE WANTS TO COMPRESS TO 48K!!! THAT'S ALL!!!


fine.......  download a copy of dbpoweramp audio converter and nero mp4 plugin
very easy to use

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

dbpoweramp converter
Nero mp4 encoder plugin

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Reply #14 –
Dear Garf,
i have encoded some --alt-preset-fast extreme Lame 3.90.3 to mp4 with Nero 7 @ 224 cbr. Same problem. 192 --alt-preset cbr to mp4 vbr transcoding...same problem. (everything in Nero7).
Have you listen the entire file? and everything is ok? 
oauuu, that means that i have some problems? 

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Reply #15 –
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I'm not comparing 48kbps he-aac to 96kbps mp3, i know they are both different thing, one is SBR and one without SBR, I'm just saying 48kbps he-aac is not sufficient for encoding audio, it sounded pretty fake because of SBR...
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For the *second* time, did you test this, or are you just blabbering a preconception as if it were a fact?

SBR is a tool, and you can make good or bad use of this tool. I am 100% sure the new Nero AAC makes a lot better use of it then the old one does.

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Reply #16 –
kotrtim the problem is not what bitrate he is encoding at.i tell him to change the bitrate to 80kbs so you can sleep ok. 
but the problem persist.
i am not asking you what bitrate should i encode, but why it's not working

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Reply #17 –
@vulvo:

You weren't very specific in your first post, so you had that one coming for you. Why don't you try another tool then? Mediacoder should work I believe.

http://base.3322.org/mediacoder/
//From the barren lands of the Northsmen

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Reply #18 –
ohhh....you are just reporting a bug, well I've tried, no problems too....(Nero 6.6)

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Reply #19 –
Nero 6.6.0.16 was ok. The new Nero has the problem. So Nero 6 doesn't mean nothing to me. In conclusion, your post doesn't mean nothing to me.

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Reply #20 –
DigitalDictator, is that program using Nero AAC encoder for MP4 compression?
that link does not work. do you have another one? what's the name of the program?
10x

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Reply #21 –
to anyone who have NERO7:

Compare 48kbps NERO7 to normal 48kbps he-aac Parametric Stereo (winamp5 or mediacoder or any others he-aac ps software)

btw nero7 have parametric stereo or not?

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Reply #22 –
There is an active thread about the program. Do a search. I think it says: "Batch transcoding to HE-AAC-PS with this tool"...
//From the barren lands of the Northsmen

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Reply #23 –
if you are talking about MENC i have it already.
but it's not using nero aac. it uses helix and aac+ v2 in think.
by the way: thanx a lot everybody for trying to help me and everyone on this great site.
and i think we have to thank the Ahead mp4 developers, for their hard work. (and not only MP4)

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Reply #24 –
so, in conclusion.
if someone with nero7 coul reconvert an mp3 to mp4 and carefully listen to the resulted files to see if it's ok, it would be great
and then i'll see what i have to do
thanx