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Hi,

after listening to my mp3s using WinAMP for the last five years, I (finally) ask my self whether the included mp3-decoder is really the best one could have.

I read a bit about Mad and l3dec but don´t know whether using any of them really makes sense. Actually, I´d like to stick with my old WinAMP 2.8x as I have not seen an update to mp3cue for WinAMP3 yet, but I´m willing to change my decoding engine. On the other hand I´d like to know what people think about the MP3-Decoder delivered with the latest WinAMP?

Searching the local forums for "decoder" did not help me. Thanks for any hint that points me into the right direction

Campari

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Reply #1
Check this link for info and ff123's site for some more explaining on various decoding issues and MAD.

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Problem is, that David Robinsons Site is pretty outdated as the last update was in 2001. Can´t find any information on latest WinAMP for example.

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Best MP3 player? fmod. Not really a "player" like winamp, or sonique, but the best sound system for programmers.

The fmod player, basically it's just for testing things. (current version is 3.6)

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Reply #4
Get anything more exotic than those MIDI and PCM files going and watch Mr. CPU USAGE skyrocket. Fmod is handy as a standalon player software to have on hand. Works good in computer labs where they do not let you install software and have nothing that will play OGG etc installed.

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Reply #5
WhAt?!?
fmod supports WAV, OGG, MP2, MP3, WMA, ASF, MID, RMI, SGT, IT, XM, S3M and MOD files. And Mr. CPU usage LOVES fmod, more than any other software, just try it, Neo Neku. fmod is the best.

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Reply #6
Hmm the features look cool indeed. But the player looks more like a debugger to me  What about quintessential player or coolplayer? The latter is based on MAD, both supports winamp plugins.
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Hmm the features look cool indeed. But the player looks more like a debugger to me  :D What about quintessential player or coolplayer? The latter is based on MAD, both supports winamp plugins.

Yeah, it's not really a "player" like Winamp, it's mainly for testing how things work with fmod. fmod is basically for developers.
And, you should know that MAD has absolutely no advantage over Nullsoft's plug-ins. Only disadvantages. You're way better off with Nullsoft's input plug-ins.

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Reply #8
Winamp is pretty tough to beat IMHO.

I use 2.81 still. Very functional with an excellent selection of plug-ins.

If the visuals were as great as Sonique's,it would be perfect for me.

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campari212:

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Problem is, that David Robinsons Site is pretty outdated as the last update was in 2001. Can´t find any information on latest WinAMP for example.


I assume Winamp3 uses exactly the same decoder as Winamp 2.81 - Nullsoft have paid the massive one-time license fee for the FhG decoder, why would they switch?

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Reply #10
Actually i don't know if they're still using FhG with their WA3 plug-in. Anyone knows?
What i do know, is that Winamp 3 in general, compared to Winamp 2, STINKS. Winamp 2 is the best general *AUDIO* player for Windows.
Damn it with the video support.. Damn AOL...

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Why is everybody so unhappy with Winamp 3? Please, somebody tell me a real reason.

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No no no...  There are many reasons.
First of all, Justin Frankel, the original creator of Winamp, as far as i know, had nothing to do with Winamp 3's development. Makes you wonder?
Winamp 3 is not nearly as fast as Winamp 2, it requiers more system power, even with very simple skins.
It has more useless features than Winamp 2 and lacks many useful Winamp 2 features. And it is very unstable.
You really need to find out yourself... Browse the Winamp.com forums, compare the two, and get the idea.
I don't know, Winamp 3 will surely improve, but i doubt it'll ever be as efficient as Winamp 2.

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Reply #13
QCD player is very good.  It is what Winamp 2 should have developed into instead of Winamp 3.

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Reply #14
Does FMOD support aac mp4 and mpc files?

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Winamp 3 uses the exact same decoder sas version 2. No change in there according to their FAQ at least. So, theoretically, there's no difference in sound reproduction...

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Does FMOD support aac mp4 and mpc files?

No. But remember, neither does Winamp , people develop plugins that support formats for it.
Maybe fmod will support aac when it is "standard". Remember, no developer untill now used or uses AAC (or MP4) in applications/games/whatever. AAC licensing is -VERY- expensive, and i guess very few will use AAC in the future.
MPC, is still a controvercial (misspelled maybe..) format...

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Reply #17
Oh well

It would have been nice to use FMOD to compare all the different audio formats

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You can still compare with OGG, MP3, WAV, IT, XM... fmod is always the fastest there is.
Check the website and see some comparisons (only with an XM module containing 8bit and 16bit data though).

And check the links section.. "Partners and companies using FMOD"
Says something hmm?

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Reply #19
Best Mp3 Player? how about the best mp3 player and jukebox?
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OH NO! My nightmare! Please anything but media jukebox... ahhhh!!!
I was even thinking about this jukebox when writing "jukebox"....
Oh the feeling of disgust...

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Reply #21
I tried fmod but am disappointed - its IT playback is incomplete and fails miserably on some tracks I made a few years ago, even worse than WinAmp's IT decoder.

Guess I still need IT on my computer.

-h

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Reply #22
No way.
What software and what version did you use to create your IT mods?

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Reply #23
I used Impulse Tracker v2.14.  There wasn't much else that could create IT files.

Anyway, XMPlay decodes my "killer" file correctly.  WinAmp and fmod both fail miserably, but with different degrees of miserableness.

-h

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Reply #24
That is strange.. How about the latest Modplug Tracker? Does it fail as well?