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Breaking Iso Limitations - Long Names

Hello!

I'm looking for software which allow me to use long filenames when I need.
It is annoying when burning software cuts filenames of mp3s.
I know one program of this type - Brazilian Mp3br. But it is only to
making ISO images. Something else? Any other recording program can burn long filenames?
Thanx for replying!

--
wishes,
michal_michal

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Reply #1 –
Nero Burning Rom can write long filenames, just as I replied in the EAC mailing list...

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Reply #2 –
Thanx for answer!
Nope - Nero cannot burn filenames longer than 61 characters. But there are sometimes longer filenames... Esp. with classical music, or when more infos are included in name of file...

Error in Nero: "Name is too long and must be shortened to be compatibile to the Joliet lenght restrictions." Mp3br can do image without this limitations. But it is not for writing and it is not freeware

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Reply #3 –
32 chars is the limit.
255 in path.

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Reply #4 –
NTI CD-Maker supports the Romeo specification with filenames of up to 128 characters.

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Reply #5 –
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32 chars is the limit.
255 in path.

64 when Joliet?

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Reply #7 –
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32 chars is the limit.
255 in path.

64 when Joliet?

yes that's correct.

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Reply #8 –
The software you mention supports the following file systems:

UDF (Both RecordNow MAX and DLA)
ISO 9660 Level 1
ISO 9660 Level 2
Joliet (W9x Long File Names)
MS-DOS (8+3)
Mode 1 (for non multi-session)
Mode 2 (for multi-session)

Which one allows 212 characters?

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Reply #9 –
ISO9660 level1 = MS DOS = 8+3
ISO9660 level 2 = a UFO forgotten long ago
Joliet = Windows95 and up = 64

Mode1 and 2 are not filename specifications.

Therefore it must be UDF.

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Reply #10 –
Hmmm...I doubt. Here's some text from Roxio's site:

"The UDF file system allows up to 127 characters per filename. DirectCD writes in the UDF file system. However, if you close a DirectCD for Windows disc to make it readable in a normal CD-ROM drive, to ensure compatibility it is necessary to convert the filenames to Joliet, so they will be truncated to 64 characters."

So UDF doesn't allow 212 characters either.

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Reply #11 –
Here is screenshot and it is ISO9660 level 2 - dunno nothing more...

Hmm - after my research seems that Padus DiscJuggler can do this [burn filenames as they are - without changes] and mp3br [prolly it is not as much 'pro' app and their way to do this braking every rules - someone plz check this proggy].

Thanx for answers

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Reply #12 –
I think it's more of a limit of the filesystems windows will read than the burning software.

It is possible to write a translation table sometimes though I think...

I do all my burning in linux, so I don't remember what software works so well for windows, but I did always like Nero... It may have an "expert" option to break joliet compatibility.

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Reply #13 –
Pio2001 - Software does exist for ISO9660 level 2.  How compatible it is with most systems, I don't know.  Is it still being developed?  I don't know. So perhaps it is a "a UFO forgotten long ago".

See http://www.chrismyden.com/nuke/categories....ewindex&catid=3 which Chris just put up on Aug 28, 2002.

It discusses the Prassi burning engine that is used in several products including the free Sony CD Extreme.  Evidently this supports ISO9660 level 2 file names.

Here's a quote from his introduction

"Q: Will I be able to read discs that I burn with this software on any computer?"

"A: Yep, I've had no problems reading CDs burnt with really, really long MP3 filenames on any computers or in various MP3-CD players."

I have never used it myself, so I can't give any more info than the URL above.

DR
DR

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Reply #14 –
I think what youre looking for indeed is the Romeo file system, and just like Citay said NTI CD-Maker is one of the few burning programs that supports it.  (maybe CD Mate also, if my memory doesnt fail me).  Too bad so many few programs support it cuz its such a handy feature. 

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Reply #15 –
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Pio2001 - Software does exist for ISO9660 level 2.  How compatible it is with most systems, I don't know.  Is it still being developed?  I don't know. So perhaps it is a "a UFO forgotten long ago".

Sorry, I searched back in my docs (La gravure des CD, Eric Charton, Macmillan, 1999), and in Mike Richter's primer, but couldn't find back any info about ISO level 2.
Maybe I've been advising a wrong thing all along.

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Reply #16 –
Looks like I should have done a bit more research before claiming that
ISO9660 Level 2 = 212 character file names.  In fact the standard appears to be limited to 32 characters.

usenet article about CD filename limitations

It appears that the prassi engine "extends" the standard.  I am surprised that Chris hasn't seen compatibility problems.

usenet article about Joliet and other CD filenaming conventions

There are limits to how long the pathname can be in Win32 as well, so if the long filenames are used, you will need to be sure that the total is under 260 charaters (at least according to this) usenet article describing win32 pathlen limitations
DR

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Reply #17 –
Zip em and forget em. 

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Reply #18 –
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I think what youre looking for indeed is the Romeo file system, and just like Citay said NTI CD-Maker is one of the few burning programs that supports it.  (maybe CD Mate also, if my memory doesnt fail me).  Too bad so many few programs support it cuz its such a handy feature.  :D

Yes, CD Mate supports the Romeo file system.
Btw. it has some nice features (CloneCD-like CD copying...)

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Reply #19 –
Can Windows Explorer read Romeo filenames just fine off a CD? (Sorry if its really stupid to ask... it's late here.)