Originally posted by rjamorim OK. And when you learn to hear --aps artifacts? Then what?[span style='font-size:9']1500 posts![/span]
Originally posted by rjamorim You've already reached the final evolutional step.
Originally posted by tangent [span style='font-size:9']Spammer! [/span]
Originally posted by Pio2001 I've got some papers scattered here and there about experiments I've done measuring the losslessness of SPDIF, the offset of drives, the analog frequency response of a CD player, and the audibility of ultrasonics harmonics in music.But not knowing what's up with HA's developments, I'm just putting them in my private webspace for the time being.
Originally posted by Pio2001 On the other hand, I don't find it so negative. I use to browse www.hardware.fr forums. It's the perfect example (in french) of newbie forums : several thousand message per DAY ! Very difficult to hold any discussion, because in the ten minutes after someone asks a question, there are already 10 stupid answers from other newbies.
Originally posted by Pio2001 Is there already somewhere a test result showing that --alt-preset 160 or 170, something like that, is better than --r3mix ?
Originally posted by Pio2001 One must keep in mind also that, if --alt-preset standard is 192 kbps in average, the difference is only 11% with alt-preset 173.
originally posted by dorsAnd who are we anyway to tell people what to use, and what not?
Originally posted by dors Finally, I'm all against removing the --r3mix switch. With the arguments I've read, you could also demand that other "harmful" switches should go away.
Or even better: disable all switches and tell people to use Vorbis instead. And who are we anyway to tell people what to use, and what not?
And I still stand by saying that Roel did some very important things that helped the whole audio community. Dibrom came aboard later and probably did even more for it (and more important, is still actively helping it, contrary to Roel), but still, not acknowledging what he did, even if he (and his switch) certainly has some "flaws", seems just wrong to me.
Originally posted by Pio2001 I checked r3mix website and saw the r3mix switch had a 170-175 kbps average. Knowing that --alt-preset standard was higher, and that the use of -Y is not really what we seek, I went into the recommended Lame settings and found no VBR setting for this bitrate.
Originally posted by Joe Bloggs I want to see a comparison of the --r3mix and aps switches. I haven't been able to see any expanded version of --aps or any other --alt-presents
Originally posted by Dibrom HA is here to help people learn how to work with audio compression. It's here to increase the knowledge base and to provide a place for relatively BS-free quality discussion. It's a place for people to perform objective testing, and share information.
It promotes poor testing methodology (did you see some of the comments on slashdot and arstechnica about ff123s test?) within the audio community, and eventually, it hampers progress.
Surely you can see this. If you feel that none of the above points are worth anything, and I'm not saying that's what you are implying, but if you don't understand why these are good things and why what r3mix.net stands for is not, then I'm not quite sure what you see in this community as a whole. I don't understand where the desire to participate would stem from.
Originally posted by layer3maniac Why is the disinformation of others a "problem" for Garf? What I don't understand is why sites that promote disinformation are a "problem" for US.
Originally posted by IveyLeaguer My friend, stop and think a second.
Disinformation is not a problem for the informed.
But have you no concern for the community at large?
Was there ever a time when you weren't 'informed'?
Originally posted by layer3maniac Friend? Do we know each other?.....if my neighbor is happy using Xing, Blade, r3mix, or even (gasp) Windows Media, I really don't have a "problem" with that.
Originally posted by Dibrom Nobody wants to remove --r3mix because it might "hurt" Roel. To that I say: WTF?
How do you go from disabling non-optimal code in LAME to instead pointing people towards Vorbis? That makes absolutely no sense.
My original intentions were, believe it or not, to actually work with Roel.
If people want to recommend newbies to r3mix.net, there's nothing anyone can really do to stop it. However, this person is making a big mistake, and in the end it's only going to come back to be harmful to the community and to promote the kind of thinking we've been subjected to lately on Slashdot and Arstechnica. Oh well..
Well, if you already think 128kbps is transparent, I see no sense in restarting encoding because someone else said there is a better way. If you always goes with what someone else says, you won't ever finish encoding your CD collection.What I mean: If you have all your encodings in --r3mix and you are satisfied with that, why reencode with --aps? There will be no difference for you.
Originally posted by rjamorim Well, if you already think 128kbps is transparent, I see no sense in restarting encoding because someone else said there is a better way. If you always goes with what someone else says, you won't ever finish encoding your CD collection.What I mean: If you have all your encodings in --r3mix and you are satisfied with that, why reencode with --aps? There will be no difference for you.